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Thomas, I'll have PFC check out the controller. In the meantime, I'll manually configure the detents as shown in the User Guide. Interestingly, I checked and the PMDG 747-8i's flap detents, and they are similarly structured, but the bottom detents are somewhat further apart and it never caused me a problem. Thanks again for your assistance, Robert

Hi Thomas, As you requested, attached is a copy of my fsuipc6.ini as it pertains to the PMDG 737 NGXu. Please remember that in the fsupc GUI the Flaps pane indicates that there are 9 detents for the Flaps and that the increments are 4094. I don't see where this information is set forth in the ini settings. Thanks for your assistance. Robert Robert's fsuipc ini for PMDG 737 NGXu.pdf

I have a problem with my hardware flaps lever and the PMDG 737 NGXu in P3Dv5. I am using fsuipc 6. I am using a PFC USB TQ which has a flaps lever that is assigned and calibrated through fsuipc. The problem is that the detent settings are grossly uneven. For instance, the range of motion for Flaps 1, 2, 5, 10 and 15 takes up more than 4/5 of the lever’s entire range of motion. This means that Flaps 25, 30 and 40 are squeezed into the last 1/5 of the range of motion. It is almost impossible to set Flaps 30 because with the limited range of motion you almost always go from Flaps 25 to Flaps 40 instead. We’re talking about almost infinitesimal movement of the lever in this lower range between flap settings. Fsuipc indicates that there are 9 detents for the lever and that the increments are 4094. In all the years I’ve used fsuipc and the PMDG 737, I’ve never encountered this problem. There’s always been a sufficient space between flap settings so that the correct setting could be attained without making micro adjustments. Any thoughts on what might be the problem here and how I might fix it? Let me be clear. My lever does not have physical detents. It is a smooth flowing lever and has always relied on fsuipc’s ability to determine the number of detents and separate them accordingly over the lever’s range of motion. Thanks for your assistance. Robert

Good point. Indeed, I'm currently using your built-in utility for this purpose with my Saitek TQs and had forgotten that. I appreciate that whether I were to use fsuipc or your built-in utility, either should theoretically work with the PFC turboprop TQ. I was simply looking for some reassurance from someone who has actually been able to setup the detents with this particular hardware. PFC's sales department has been very discouraging in this regard. Essentially, they've told me to use X-Plane if I want to use their TQs. Due to their stiff restocking fee, I was hoping to get some further actual user feedback before taking the plunge. Thanks for your input. Robert

I would like to know if anyone has experience using the PFC USB turboprop TQ with the Real Air Turbo Duke v2 and the Majestic Q400. I am most interested in learning if you've been able to use fsuipc to program the detents built into the TQ for the beta range on these planes. Thanks, Robert

Pete, thanks for clarifying this for me. While awaiting your response, I ran across your Profiles in Separate Files announcement and think I will give it a try. It is a feature that may make the conversion process worthwhile for me. Thanks again for the support. Robert

Pete, thanks. Now, one more question, since you brought up the Profile facilities in fsuipc a few posts back. I’ve been reluctant to implement this feature because I go way back with fsuipc, and have stuck with using the “aircraft-specific” facilities for each plane in my hangar, which has worked well for me—though a bit tedious when changing hardware. Now that I’m about to change my yoke, pedals, joystick, and TQ, it may be time to reconsider the Profiles facilities you introduced several years ago. I appreciate that a single set of assignments for levers can work for a defined type of aircraft, e.g., single engine prop, twin engine prop, twin engine turbo, twin engine jet, etc. But what I’ve been concerned about—and what has prevented me from pursuing implementation of fsuipc’s Profile facilities—is how do I handle the unique characteristics of the various planes within these broad categories. For example, how do I use different slope settings for different aircraft within the same broad category such as twin engine jet? Do I have to setup a new profile for each jet aircraft, based on my default jet profile, and then edit it to include my slope settings for that particular aircraft if it doesn’t follow my default slope settings? Similarly, how do I customize different button commands for each plane’s popup windows within a broad category? I use my yoke buttons to popup 2D windows using the Shift+n commands. But each plane usually has different popups and different Shift+n assignments for these popups. So, again, do I have to setup a new profile, based on the default profile for that particular type of aircraft, and then edit it to include the specific button settings for that particular aircraft’s popup windows? Or is there a simpler way to accomplish this customization? If not, then, for me anyway, there seems to be no advantage to using Profiles. Thanks for your assistance. Robert

Pete, thanks for this important info. Let me make sure I understand what you’re saying about the PMDG and Airbus aircraft. I think you’re saying that I won’t be able to assign fsuipc’s reverser axis command (in the pull down command list on the left side of the axis assignment window) to the dedicated reverser levers on the PFC USB TQ. Instead, I will have to use P3D’s F2 key command. Here’s how I would anticipate utilizing this F2 command. Please let me know if this is what you have in mind. I would go to fsuipc’s Axis Assignment window and move the TQ’s dedicated reverser lever for Throttle 1 to select it. Then, in the right side area of the fsuipc window, I would setup a range for the upper part of the lever and assign it to the Throttle 1 Cut command in the pull down list. Then, I would setup a second range for the lower part of the lever and assign it to the Throttle 1 Decr command in the pull down list and have it repeat if found to be necessary. Then, I would repeat this process for the Throttle 2 reverser lever using the Throttle 2 commands. In this way I can utilize the PFC USB TQ’s dedicated reverser levers as though I’d assigned a reverser axis command to them. Am I on track? Thanks, Robert

In that case, here's what I'm most concerned about: 1. Will the PFC USB turboprop TQ work with the Real Air Turbo Duke v2 and the Majestic Q400? I am most interested in the ability to use fsuipc to program the detents built into the TQ for the beta range. 2. Will the PFC USB two-engine enhanced jet TQ work with the PMDG 737 and 777 and the Aerosoft Airbus? I am most interested in the ability to use fsuipc to program the TQ's dedicated reverser levers. Thanks, Robert

Thanks, Pete. I very much appreciate your prompt input. Now, I'd like to hear from anyone who is actually using the PFC USB TQs, and learn if they have any tips for setting them up with fsuipc. No one seems to post about this, and perhaps that indicates that it's really trouble free, which I hope is the case. Thanks, Robert

Before investing in the PFC jet throttle quadrant with dedicated reverser levers and the PFC turboprop twin engine throttle quadrant with detents for the beta range, I wanted to make sure that others have been able to get these TQs to work properly in P3D v3.1 using fsuipc in Windows 7. PFC sales isn’t terribly helpful, and they stress that they do not support P3D and profess a buyer beware attitude. I suspect that their USB TQs will work just fine with P3D but they don’t want to be bothered with supporting the required fsuipc configuration. In this regard, there is an October 2014 post in the Avsim forum that indicates that they should work. See http://www.avsim.com/topic/449386-pfc-throttle-quadrant-not-working-in-p3d-v23/. I was hoping that Pete (who I think uses the serial version of PFC hardware but who may have some experience with the USB TQ devices) or some others who actually use the PFC USB TQs might be able to give me some reassurance. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Robert

Peter T, thanks for posting this solution. I'm sure it will be helpful to others who might experience this problem. It parallels somewhat my own experience that I never documented here because I couldn't be sure what I'd done exactly and I also felt it was probably a one off. I gave up on my TQ and arranged for Saitek to send me a new one. I can't remember now whether they sent me a PS2 or a USB replacement, but I believe it was USB. I unplugged my PS2 TQ and plugged in the new one. I never messed with the Device Manager at all. But even with the new TQ I still had the same problem as before. So I planned to return it, removed it, and plugged my old TQ back in. Lo and behold, FSX and fsuipc both suddenly recognized the axis on my original TQ that had been giving me the problem. Thanks, Robert

Pete, it appears that when I copied over my settings from the FSX fsuipc.ini, I didn't notice that the default ini for P3D already had a Buttons section. So I wound up with 2 Buttons sections and fsuipc looked at the first one in the ini and found nothing. Later in the ini is my default FSX Buttons section that wasn't being read. [Buttons] // Default - use for all aircraft 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 ; S 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 ; Shift+S 3=RY,3,C65615,0 ; Elevator Trim Up 4=RY,2,C65607,0 ; Elevator Trim Down 5=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,3,K189,8 ; Zoom Out 6=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,2,K187,8 ; Zoom In 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 ; center Track IR 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 ; toggle Track IR 9=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,5,C66530,0 ; Eyepoint Reset (Control+Space Bar) 10=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,5,C65561,0 ; Pause Toggle (P) 11=CR(+Y,8)Y,18,C65880,0 ; Heading Bug Left (Dec) 12=CR(+Y,8)Y,19,C65879,0 ; Heading Bug Right (Inc) Thanks for pointing this out. I will make the necessary corrections. Robert

Pete, here's the log file for the ini which has the default button commands included in the aircraft specific button section. I may not have messed up my earlier post but here it is anyway just in case I did. ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.923 by Pete Dowson ********* Running inside Prepar3D v2 on Windows 7 Module base=565C0000 User Name="Robert Chartoff" User Addr="macwino@mac.com" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WideFS7 Key is provided 483 System time = 16/12/2013 20:35:04 499 FLT UNC path = "\\FLIGHTSIM2\Users\Robert\Documents\Prepar3D v2 Files\" 499 Trying C:\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\Modules\SimConnectP3D2.dll 499 Found it: trying to connect 515 FS UNC path = "\\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\" 795 LogOptions=40000000 00000001 795 SIM1 Frictions access gained 795 Wind smoothing fix is fully installed 795 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 795 Trying to use SimConnect Prepar3D 8751 Running in "Lockheed MartinÆ Prepar3DÆ v2", Version: 2.0.9448.0 (SimConnect: 2.0.0.0) 8751 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 8751 FSUIPC Menu entry added 8767 \\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\FLIGHTS\OTHER\Prepar3D.FXML 8767 \\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\SimObjects\Airplanes\IRIS Raptor Driver\Raptor.AIR 36535 \\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\SimObjects\Airplanes\Carenado A36 BONANZA P3D\A36.AIR 66331 System time = 16/12/2013 20:36:10, Simulator time = 15:35:36 (23:35Z) 66331 Aircraft="Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary" 67345 Starting everything now ... 68063 KEYDOWN: VK=80, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 68063 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 68281 KEYUP: VK=80, Waiting=0 69249 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=2 69249 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 69732 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 69732 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 69763 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 69763 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 69810 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 69810 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 69841 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 69841 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 69888 KEYDOWN: VK=190, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=2 69888 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 70044 KEYUP: VK=190, Waiting=0 70216 KEYUP: VK=17, Waiting=0 70855 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 94599 Weather Mode now = Custom 94786 Weather Mode now = Theme 94786 Weather Mode now = Custom 116064 KEYDOWN: VK=80, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 116064 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 116205 KEYUP: VK=80, Waiting=0 118217 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 118217 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 118217 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 118217 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 118217 SendKeyToFS(0000007E=[F15], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 118217 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 118217 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 118217 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 118217 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=126 (Scan code 102), Ctr=1 118326 SendKeyToFS(0000007E=[F15], KEYUP) ctr=0 118326 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=126 (Scan code 102), Ctr=1 118420 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 118420 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 118420 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 118420 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 118420 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 118420 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 118420 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 119637 KEYDOWN: VK=76, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 119637 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 119777 KEYUP: VK=76, Waiting=0 123537 KEYDOWN: VK=13, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=4 123537 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 123740 KEYUP: VK=13, Waiting=0 127328 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 127328 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 127328 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 127328 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 127328 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 127328 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 127328 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 127328 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 127328 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 127453 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 127453 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 127515 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 127515 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 127515 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 127515 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 127515 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 127515 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 127515 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 132367 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 132367 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 132367 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 132367 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 132367 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 132367 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 132367 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 132367 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 132367 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 132476 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 132476 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 132601 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 132601 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 132601 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 132601 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 132601 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 132601 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 132601 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 139714 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 139714 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 139714 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 139714 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 139714 SendKeyToFS(0000007E=[F15], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 139714 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 139714 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 139714 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 139714 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=126 (Scan code 102), Ctr=1 139855 SendKeyToFS(0000007E=[F15], KEYUP) ctr=0 139855 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 139855 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 139855 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 139855 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 139855 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 139855 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 139855 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 139855 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=126 (Scan code 102), Ctr=1 145034 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Pressed 145034 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 145034 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 145034 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 145034 SendKeyToFS(00000053=[S], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 145034 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 145034 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 145034 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 145034 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=1 145174 SendKeyToFS(00000053=[S], KEYUP) ctr=0 145174 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=1 145299 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Released 145299 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 145299 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 145299 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 145299 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 145299 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 145299 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 147655 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 147655 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 147655 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 147655 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 147655 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 147655 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 147655 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 147655 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 147655 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 147795 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 147795 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 147795 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 147795 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 147795 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 147795 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 147795 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 147795 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 147811 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 149948 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Pressed 149948 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 149948 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 149948 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 149948 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 149948 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 149948 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 149948 SendKeyToFS(00040053=[shft+S], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 149948 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=16 (Shift) (Scan code 42), Ctr=2 149979 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=1 150057 SendKeyToFS(00040053=[shft+S], KEYUP) ctr=0 150057 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=2 150088 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=16 (Shift) (Scan code 42), Ctr=1 150166 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Released 150166 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 150166 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 150166 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 150166 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 150166 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 150166 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 155190 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 155190 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 155190 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 155190 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 155190 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 155190 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 155190 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 155190 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 155205 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 155314 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 155314 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 155439 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 155439 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 155439 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 155439 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 155439 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 155439 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 155439 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 184877 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 184877 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 184877 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 184877 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 184877 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 184877 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 184877 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 184877 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 184877 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 185017 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 185017 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 185017 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 185017 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 185017 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 185017 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 185017 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 185017 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 185017 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 185298 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Pressed 185298 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 185298 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 185298 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 185298 SendKeyToFS(00000053=[S], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 185298 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 185298 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 185298 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 185298 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=1 185376 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Released 185376 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 185376 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 185376 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 185376 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 185376 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 185376 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 185438 SendKeyToFS(00000053=[S], KEYUP) ctr=0 185438 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=1 200492 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Pressed 200492 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 200492 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 200492 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 200492 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 200492 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 200492 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 200492 SendKeyToFS(00040053=[shft+S], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 200492 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=16 (Shift) (Scan code 42), Ctr=2 200508 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=1 200633 SendKeyToFS(00040053=[shft+S], KEYUP) ctr=0 200633 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Released 200633 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 200633 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 200633 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 200633 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 200633 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 200633 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 200633 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=2 200648 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=16 (Shift) (Scan code 42), Ctr=1 201413 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 201413 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 201413 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 201413 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 201413 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 201413 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 201413 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 201413 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 201413 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 201537 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 201537 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 201662 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 201662 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 201662 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 201662 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 201662 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 201662 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 201662 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 205110 KEYUP: VK=13, Waiting=0 205219 KEYUP: VK=18, Waiting=0 206155 KEYDOWN: VK=27, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 206155 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 206171 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 140 secs = 21.7 fps 218323 System time = 16/12/2013 20:38:42, Simulator time = 15:37:26 (23:37Z) 218323 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Average frame rate for running time of 140 secs = 21.7 fps Memory managed: 60 Allocs, 60 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed *********** Thanks, Robert

Pete, the second set of attached files above may contain the wrong log file. The log file I attached may have been for the first ini with only the custom button commands. I will attach the proper log file in a few minutes after I setup a flight using the second ini, which is the one with the default button commands included in the aircraft specific button section. Sorry for the confusion. Robert