Throttle setup for Eaglesoft Citation X

[jpwdpm]

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Posted Today, 05:39 PM

I know I'm not the only one out there who has pulled their hair out trying to set up the throttles on the Citation X. I have a doctorate level education and setting the throtlles was not as intuitive as one may think. However, mine are working just fine now and I want to share how I set them up with everyone. Hopefully Pete can give some input as well

1. Delete your axis for throttle on the fsx throttle control page

2. Go to the axis tab of FSUIPC and move your throttle. It should give you an axis.

3. Click on the box where the control is sent directly to FSUIPC

4. Pull the tab down for throttle one

5. Just under that pull down the tab and click for throttle two

6. Go to page 3 of the joystick section

7. Move your throtttle to max and click set

8. Do the same for idle

9. If you have a Saitek x-52 then you can also set reverse thrust. I dont know about other vendors

10. Now go to throttle two on the same page and make sure the values are the same for both throttles. This way they work together. My main problem was one throttle being higher than another.

11. I dont know what the filter is about and I dont know what the exclude throttle nset means either. Anyway I clicked it and it all works great now.

I hope this helps some of you. The other planes are so easy to set up I dont know what the deal was with Eaglesoft. Either way its a great jet and goes like a bat out of hell

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#2 Pete Dowson

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Posted Today, 06:08 PM

jpwdpm, on Today, 05:39 PM, said:

I know I'm not the only one out there who has pulled their hair out trying to set up the throttles on the Citation X. I have a doctorate level education and setting the throtlles was not as intuitive as one may think. However, mine are working just fine now and I want to share how I set them up with everyone. Hopefully Pete can give some input as well

I'll try to clarify some of this if I can. But apart from the variety of options FSUIPC provides so so many different aircraft types can be programmed correctly, I'm not sure what you find difficult or confusing. Maybe it is something about the fussiness of the particular aircraft which makes the choice so narrow and therefore more difficult to determine?

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1. Delete your axis for throttle on the fsx throttle control page

Doesn't the aircraft work with normal FSX assigned throttle? I can't imagine they'd design an aircraft with FSUIPC dependency built-in.

But please note that if you don't actually disable controllers in FSX it is liable to re-assign automatically, especially if one time it thinks the device is newly connected.

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4. Pull the tab down for throttle one

5. Just under that pull down the tab and click for throttle two

I'm not sure whay you need to assign the same axis to both throttles there, when you could, as documented, just map the first onto the second in the calibration tab (page 3). Maybe you are using an out-of-date version of FSUIPC which had a problem with the mapping in some configurations? The current version is 4.84, with 4.85 due to be released this weekend.

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9. If you have a Saitek x-52 then you can also set reverse thrust. I dont know about other vendors

Any throttle lever can be set with a reverse thrust zone if required, though I know many with the Saitek quadrant use the button engaged at the full back position to activate the "throttle decr" control for reverse instead of losing some of the lever movement.

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11. I dont know what the filter is about and I dont know what the exclude throttle nset means either. Anyway I clicked it and it all works great now.

Both are documented. The filter attempts to smooth out severe jitters, those caused by a bad power supply rather than dirt. It isn't recommended otherwise because it can affect responsiveness -- not a good idea on a fast aircraft! The exclude options at the bottom are special fiddles needed for some add-ons, and all i can say about those is try it and see -- It depends on the add-on implementation.

Regards

Pete

P.S. You may like to re-post your helpful notes in the "User Contributions" subforum, where it will remain as a reference for others. Messages here scroll out of easy reach quite quickly.

[jpwdpm]

When you use the throttles with FSX setup it sets the idle at about 50% which means you are constantly braking in order to taxi. It was just unrealistic. Your program fixed that problem. Thanks for the advice. I know for sure a lot of people who buy this jet will run into the same problems as I did

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But please note that if you don't actually disable controllers in FSX it is liable to re-assign automatically, especially if one time it thinks the device is newly connected.

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What if I don't want FSX ever recognize my joysticks (and write it in Controls.xml?) Can I disable all joysticks in FSX (was it Ctr+K?), assign all axes in FSUIPC, exit FSX and make Controls.xml ReadOnly?

Thanks,

Dirk.

[Pete Dowson]

What if I don't want FSX ever recognize my joysticks (and write it in Controls.xml?) Can I disable all joysticks in FSX (was it Ctr+K?), assign all axes in FSUIPC, exit FSX and make Controls.xml ReadOnly?

No need to go to all that trouble. If you disbalbe controllers using the checkbox for this in the FSX dialogue, it will be remembered (unless you delete your FSX.CFG file). It is recorded as "Joysticks=0" I think.

Pete