westway Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I purchased FSUIPC a few days ago and am looking forward to using all it's features. I did read the detailed manual and the Quick Start Tutorial, however, and maybe it's because I'm getting on in years, but I attempted to assign my joystick using it and ended up in trouble, i.e. my plane was erratic when attempting to fly it. I really want to avail myself of this utility, but am having great difficulty in using it. I did view a video ( You Tube ) about it's use, it is a little ambiguous, is there another more detailed video somewhere I could watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 No, not that I know of. But why do you want to assign your joystick through FSUIPC? The assignments facilities are very extensive and designed for cockpit builders or those who wish to have different controls for different aircraft types? There are many different ways of assigning the same things, and each is better suited to different add-on aircraft or different types of aircraft. In addition, erratic behaviour is almost all a result of dual assignments -- if you do assign in FSUIPC you must disable controllers in FS. If not, both will try to exercise the control and they will fight each other. Finally, good calibration is the secret to good smooth control, not assignments. You can calibrate in FSUIPC no matter where or how you assign -- so first just is FSX assignments but calibrate in FSUIPC. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westway Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Thank you. I am having difficulty in locating FSUIP calibration, I went to Joystick Calibration tab but I can't seem to find just calibrate with FSUIP function. If as you said I can calibrate using FSUIP can you point me in the right direction. Thank you and you have created a fantastic product, I happy I purchased it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Thank you. I am having difficulty in locating FSUIP calibration, I went to Joystick Calibration tab but I can't seem to find just calibrate with FSUIP function. If as you said I can calibrate using FSUIP can you point me in the right direction. Thank you and you have created a fantastic product, I happy I purchased it. In the Joystick Calibration section you'll find any control already assigned (no matter where) which is suitable for calibration. You simply follow the numbered steps in the Chapter about calibration. You have at least looked in the FSUIPC User Guide, surely? They way you are asking questions it sounds like you've not even bothered to look at the documentation? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westway Posted October 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 As a matter of fact I have read pages 45 through 58 in great detail, still does not explain how to calibrate without having to make assignments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 As a matter of fact I have read pages 45 through 58 in great detail, still does not explain how to calibrate without having to make assignments. You make assignments in FSX or in FSUIPC. Assignments obviously have to be made before calibration. Calibration acts on the specific FS controls, NOT on the axis itself. Calibration knows nothing about joysticks and doesn't need to. Please refer to the FSX help for using FSX properly with joysticks. I think you are rushing into FSUIPC prematurely. You need to be a bit more familiar with FS itself first. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westway Posted October 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Okay I'm going to stop now. It was my initial expectation that FSUIPC was going to enhance and improve every aspect of FSX, obviously I was incorrect in my assumption, but that's okay. As for my knowledge base with Flight Simulator and especially FSX I have been using it since it's inspection and there is very little I don't know about it's seamy underbelly. Thanks for your input O.F.Kugler, Esq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Okay I'm going to stop now. It was my initial expectation that FSUIPC was going to enhance and improve every aspect of FSX, obviously I was incorrect in my assumption, but that's okay. As for my knowledge base with Flight Simulator and especially FSX I have been using it since it's inspection and there is very little I don't know about it's seamy underbelly. Okay, your choice, but if you know FS so well I don't understand why you do not know how to assign your controls in its assignments dialogues? Once they are assigned there, the calibration in FSUIPC is very easy, just a matter of moving the levers etc and clicking buttons, as instructed in the manual. Most users have found even just this worth the install, before even looking at the very extensive facilities for assigning buttons and switches and so on. But FSUIPC is a toolkit. It has a large number of assorted facilities which may be of use to different users. If you are very happy with FS as it stands and need nothing extra, then really it wasn't worth your purchase. You could have read the documentation before you purchased to see. Did you not think of that? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westway Posted October 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Wow Pete, not a people person, uh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Wow Pete, not a people person, uh? What's that supposed to mean? I try to help you and you reject the help. Why? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westway Posted October 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 No Pete I am not rejecting your help and I thank you for your advice offered here, it's seems you make me out to be an idiot who has not read your documentation nor understands the basic fundimentals of FSX. After all I invested in your product with certain expectations of its application, in my particular case it seems to be an end around run to accomplish what I had hoped it would do with minimal effort. Yes, I understand how to set up and calibrate my joystick in FSX and having read your manual, unchecked the calibration in FSX, went to FSUIP and set up the various keys/buttons to see if that would effect a more significant change in want I saw resulting in my flight characteristics. That said,and as I indicated earlier, the control characteristics were erratic. That's all I'm saying. Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 No Pete I am not rejecting your help and I thank you for your advice offered here, it's seems you make me out to be an idiot who has not read your documentation nor understands the basic fundimentals of FSX. After all I invested in your product with certain expectations of its application, in my particular case it seems to be an end around run to accomplish what I had hoped it would do with minimal effort. Yes, I understand how to set up and calibrate my joystick in FSX and having read your manual, unchecked the calibration in FSX The problem is right there, showing a lack of understanding and ignoring what I advised. I don't think you are an idiot, I just think that you are so over-confident in your assumed knowledge of FS that you aren't actually reading what I have been writing. 1. There is NO calibration to "uncheck" in FSX. The only calibration available outside FSUIPC is in the Windows Game Controllers, and that is basic calibration of axis ranges, not specific calibration of aircraft control surface movements which is what FSUIPC offers. 2. You can ASSIGN controls in FSX. That's all you needed to do if you hadn't already. Mostly FSX makes automatic assignments in any case for controls it recognised. 3. If you actually disabled controllers altogether in FSX then that is a problem as nothing is then assigned. Go back and re-enable those controllers. 4. For now, do NOT try assigning in FSUIPC at all. That is a more advanced process and needs considerations differently for many of the more sophisticated add-on aircraft. Igf you have already assigned things then it would be best to delete the FSUIPC4.INI for from the FSX Modules folder before loading FSX. 5. Once controls are assigned, the calibration in FSUIPC is a doddle and to do it properly and efficiently you simply follow the numbered steps. That's it from me. I really do try to help everyone, but some folks just will not listen, out of pride or what, I do not know. You can see how much support I give and have given, over many many years (through the completely free times of FSUIPC as well as more recently) by just browsing this Forum. I don't thin you'll find many 9 year old products supported to this extent, if at all. Even FSUIPC3 is supported when the need arises, and that is now 11 years old. Good bye. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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