gazzerd Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Hello all you experts out there! Here's my problem. Just spent a few days 'experimenting' creating my own simple airfield. All graphic files created ok, simple runway, taxiway objects created, and the menu data files. When running I get an APPCRASH error. Below is the Windows error dump, followed by the game.log content. Anyone help me diagnose/solve this. BTW the standard and purchased airfields work fin, no crashes... regards Graham Here's what Windows tells me: Problem signature: Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: Tower.exe Application Version: 1.0.0.5 Application Timestamp: 5076cfd4 Fault Module Name: GLU32.dll Fault Module Version: 6.1.7600.16385 Fault Module Timestamp: 4a5bd9df Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 000070e5 OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1 Locale ID: 2057 Additional Information 1: 0a9e Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Additional Information 3: 0a9e Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Here's the game.log ----------------------------------------------------- Program started at: 2015. 10. 7. / 07:10:11 ----------------------------------------------------- settings mgr init profile mgr init menu_start TGA mgr init Init 3d win WinVersion: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Edition Service Pack 1, 64-bit Tower! 2011 version: 4.777.955 init font Init new menu Init settings menu Init Info menu Init Exit menu menu end -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* MENU CLOSED *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* menu destroyed new game called Gamewin created SoundManager created Camera created Search Airplanes finished Sun Initialized Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelThere_Vic Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 In your previous post you had a question about the RAW format. Would you please replacing some of the images from the original airfields to make sure this crash is not caused by some wrong file formats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzerd Posted October 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Thanks for your response. I was already thinking that the likely culprit for my error is obe or more of the RAW files. However, I have a difficulty because the user guide is not very specific about the exact format the RAW file should take. My understanding is that RAW is not a universal standard, it's a way if capturing binary encoded data but the internal format is only appropriate for a specific applucation/device. Could you be more specific about the internal RAW format Tower expects? A useful clue would be to tell me which application you would normally use to create your own RAW files and the settings you would use. Many thanks Regards Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzerd Posted October 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Thanks for your response. I was already thinking that the likely culprit for my error is obe or more of the RAW files. However, I have a difficulty because the user guide is not very specific about the exact format the RAW file should take. My understanding is that RAW is not a universal standard, it's a way if capturing binary encoded data but the internal format is only appropriate for a specific applucation/device. Could you be more specific about the internal RAW format Tower expects? A useful clue would be to tell me which application you would normally use to create your own RAW files and the settings you would use. Many thanks Regards Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelThere_Vic Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Dear Graham, Did you try to use one of the original airport's files and rename it to your airport? That way you could see if the file format is causing the problem or not. We use the standard RAW format that Photoshop offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzerd Posted October 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Thanks for the diagnostic idea...I wad already thinking I would try that before you suggested it (great minds thinking alike eh?) So, I did try it but still got the same problem. Can only conclude therefore that there is something wrong with one of the other graphic files (tga's) or some airfield editor setting (roads or objects) that is triggering the crash. It is the Glu32.DLL that's the faulting module...that's an OpenGL DLL so seems it is a graphics problem. In going to try some windows dump/debug research to try to find which file is the culprit. PS. I'm not a Photoshop user - I use GIMP and PAINT.NET for my graphic work. Cheers Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo9550 Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 I too have an issue with an airfield build that causes a fatal error whilst loading. I've built KSDF Louisville, and whilst I've had to fudge (copy) a few files, I've go it to the point where the airfield is recognised in the startup menu and once I've selected active runways and pressed start the fatal error occurs. The error message is that " I have no Approach lines found for selected runways!! " . in the editor, I have made sure I have inbound and outbound airways attached to all 6 runway vectors and these have a knot height of 3000ft at the extremity and are connected to the runways. As far as I can see these mimic the same setup to the default and add on airports I have. I have completed all 3 menu files, have the correct number of graphics files and the map file. Can anyone help, with something I may have missed. Unrelated: I also have similar issues to Graham above. There are very few graphics applications that actually produce RAW files. I too use Gimp, and it is a bit frustrating having to manage the limitation of RAW. I appreciate its not practical to modify Tower 2011 to accept another format, but seeing as you are talking about some of the new features for the 3d version of Tower, perhaps some consideration could be made to support a more distributed format. Perhaps .TIF, assuming the graphics requirements remain similar, which of course they may not due to the 3d environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzerd Posted November 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Hi Aldo9550, Looks like we are suffering from the same problem! I gave up trying to use Gimp to create RAW files for Tower and signed up for a Photoshop trial (1 month) - am hoping I can do all the necessary work and get Tower working on my small test airfield in that time, but if not im happy to subscribe for a small monthly fee. Ok, so I've now created all the graphic files and the menu files etc. and have got rid of my original crash problem. But now I'm getting the same error you are " no Approach lines found for selected runways!! ". I cannot work out what's wrong - I just don;t get it! I do notice however that the 'knots' where airways should connect to runways do not go 'dark' like they do for taxiways connecting to runways - is that a clue for someone out there? PS. I'd love to get Tower working and have some fun. But I am disappointed in the quality of the user guide for airfield construction. There are many errors - not least of which is that some of the standard file names mentioned in the user guide are not right - I had to figure out what was going on by inspecting other files for existing airfields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc16v Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Double check your incoming airways are centralised with the runway and slightly overlaping. I had this issue and remonving the airway and re-inserting it seemed to fix the issue. Gareth ps. There are no airway to runway nots, just your best allignment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzerd Posted November 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 Hey mc16v, thanks, really useful. I was already heading down that route and your response confirms my thinking. This morning I did a bit of 'fault finding' by moving incoming airways slightly off runway alignment on the standard ST Thomas airfield and this generated the same error. Guess I'm going to pursue this tonight! Grahsm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo9550 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Thanks team, I have managed to resolve that obstacle atleast. I rebuilt the airways, and noticed that for outgoing airways, even though they were flagged as outgoing or backward, the actual arrow direction on the airway was opposite, so it meant I needed to build them in the opposite direction physically, to that which I thought logical. That probably sounds confusing, so the simple explanation is set incoming as 1. Airway Incoming 2. Direction is incoming or forward 3. physically place airway so the arrow direction is into the runway. and outgoing as 1. Airway Outgoing 2. Direction is outgoing or backward 3. physically place airway so the arrow direction is away from the runway. This all makes sense, but I agree with Graham in so much as the user manual is very limited, contains a number of errors and is often incomplete. I'm not sure if a group exists amongst members to share their airfields, but I think it would be a great addition to the member area. Perhaps someone at Feelthere could do some work on the Manual, or better yet, create a specific one for Airfield creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzerd Posted November 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 I've made a simple discovery, and a breakthrough! Finally I got Tower to run on my trial simple new airfield without errors...hooray! The discovery I made, an obvious one now, was that the name of a runway as entered into the airfield editor has to match that declared in the .map file. I feel really dumb now, of course this has to be the case otherwise how does Tower know which runway to 'invoke' at start up time. To illustrate. Previously I might have called my runway "runway_20" in the airfield editor, with the .map file entry being called "20" - obviously this does not match! So now I've got my airfield running I can improve the graphics which are not great - but that at least is fixable. Many thanks again to all contributors. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtYeTi Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) Hi airfield managers! :) I'm quite new here, and I have a problem with creating an airfield. I think more or less I was following the guide how to create an airfield in the manual, but when I start the simulation it does not work. I have created the TGA and the MenuData files. I have added my airfield to airfields.txt. In the editor when I would like to Add shdmap it reports this--> (This file size is invalid. Correct raw filesize is x*y*2 bytes! Check your coords or file.) I did not figure out how to solve this, by the way I added RWYs, TWYs, Airways, Terminal in/out ways, taxicar, traffic, objects. I did not pay attention to schedule and gaandlocaltraffic yet. Windows tells me: XML Parsing error inside file './Airfields/myairfield.afx'. Error: File not found At line 0, column 0. It would be very important to make it work. I am a real air traffic controller and we would like to use your program to teach newbies for some traffic situations. Thank you for your answer. Edited February 21, 2018 by LtYeTi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelThere_Vic Posted February 22, 2018 Report Share Posted February 22, 2018 LtYeTi, Can I have your real name please so we can address you politely? Using our program to teach is absolutely against the EULA. You need to contact us to discuss training licensing. Vic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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