Rudder not working

[Lsummer]

All of a sudden i the rudder stopped working with FSUIPC  it shows up and works in the settings and calibration but not working in the plane? I turned on the contols in P3d and it worked then turned it back off and not working from fsuipc. 

Any Ideas ?? 

 

Thanks 

Lee

P3d V3.2

windows 10 64 

Fsuipc 7.494p Reg

Wide FS 

Lee@broadwayg.com

 

FSUIPC INI

General]

UpdatedByVersion=4949p

History=GWCZWZUSO2MLPV6EUOH21

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NewInterceptTextMenu=No

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MouseWheelMove=No

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JoystickTimeout=20

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BlankDisplays=No

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FixMachSpeedBug=No

DeleteVehiclesForAES=Yes

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TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0

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MaxSurfaceWind=0

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TemperatureSmoothness=0

DisconnTrimForAP=No

ZeroElevForAPAlt=No

ThrottleSyncAll=No

WhiteMessages=No

ShowPMcontrols=No

SpoilerIncrement=512

MagicBattery=No

RudderSpikeRemoval=No

ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No

AileronSpikeRemoval=No

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ClockSync=No

ClockSyncMins=5

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OwnWeatherChanges=No

TimeForSelect=4

LoadFlightMenu=No

LoadPlanMenu=No

PauseAfterCrash=No

BrakeReleaseThreshold=75

SaveDataWithFlights=No

ZapSound=firework

ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring

UseProfiles=Yes

EnableMouseLook=No

DelayedMouseLookZoom=No

AxesWrongRange=No

TCASid=Flight

TCASrange=40

AxisCalibration=No

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SuppressSingleline=No

SuppressMultilineFS=No

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LuaRerunDelay=66

Console=No

NewDeleteVehiclesForAES=No

FSVersionUsed="Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v3",3.2.3.2

SimConnectUsed=3.2.0.0

 

[JoyNames]

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2=Saitek Pro Flight Combat Rudder Pedals

2.GUID={84E01D20-F2C4-11E5-800A-444553540000}

0=9 axis 34 button device with hat switch

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[Axes]

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[buttons]

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ButtonRepeat=20,10

1=P1,15,C66080,0

2=P1,14,C66079,0

3=R1,20,C65602,0

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19=R1,5,C66277,0

 

[AutoSave]

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Files=10

SaveOnGround=No

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[GPSout]

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Port=COM1

Speed=4800

Interval=2000

PosTo6Decimal=No

SimModeIndicator=No

Sentences=

 

[GPSout2]

GPSoutEnabled=No

Port=<none set>

Speed=4800

Interval=2000

PosTo6Decimal=No

SimModeIndicator=No

Sentences=

 

[WideServer]

WideFSenabled=Yes

AdvertiseService=1

Port=8002

Port2=9002

 

[sounds]

Path=J:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Sound\

Device1=Primary Sound Driver

Device2=Realtek Digital Output(Optical) (Realtek High Definition Audio)

Device3=Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)

Device4=Realtek HD Audio 2nd output (Realtek High Definition Audio)

Device5=Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)

 

[ClientNames]

1=FLIGHT2

 

[Profile.777]

1=PMDG 777-300ER PMDG House

2=PMDG 777-200LR PMDG House

3=PMDG 777-323ER American Airlines

 

[JoystickCalibration]

AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes

ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes

ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes

ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=66731

RudderTrimControl=66732

CowlFlaps1Control=66162

CowlFlaps2Control=66163

CowlFlaps3Control=66164

CowlFlaps4Control=66165

SteeringTillerControl=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380

Elevator=-16380,0,512,16380

Rudder=-16380,0,0,16380

Throttle=-16380,16380

LeftBrake=-16383,16380/16

RightBrake=-16383,16380/16

PropPitch=-16380,16380

Spoilers=-16380,16380/16

SlopeLeftBrake=15

SlopeRightBrake=15

SteeringTiller=-16380,-512,512,16380

 

[Axes.777]

RangeRepeatRate=10

0=0X,256,D,1,0,0,0

1=0Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

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4=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

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6=1U,256,D,22,0,0,0

7=1V,256,D,23,0,0,0

8=2X,256,D,7,0,0,0

9=2Y,256,D,8,0,0,0

10=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0

 

[Monitor]

Display=4

Monitor0=0,024C,4,0

 

[Profile.Airbus A320]

1=Airbus A320 Aerosoft D-AERO (IAE Sharklets)

2=Airbus A320 easyJet G-EZTB

3=Carenado EMB505 Phenom 300 N1511H

 

[Axes.Airbus A320]

RangeRepeatRate=10

0=0X,256,D,1,0,0,0

1=0Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

2=1X,256,D,1,0,0,0

3=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

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5=1U,256,D,10,0,0,0

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7=2X,256,D,7,0,0,0

8=2Y,256,D,8,0,0,0

9=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0

 

[Profile.Q400]

1=MJC8Q400_AUA

2=MJC8Q400_ANA

3=Fokker_Friendship Aer_Lingus

 

[Axes.Q400]

RangeRepeatRate=10

0=0X,256,D,22,0,0,0

1=0Z,256,D,4,0,0,0

2=1X,256,D,1,0,0,0

3=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

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6=1V,256,D,23,0,0,0

7=2X,256,D,7,0,0,0

8=2Y,256,D,8,0,0,0

9=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0

 

[Profile.Real Air Leg]

1=RealAir Lancair Legacy V2 G-LANC

2=RealAir Lancair Legacy V2 C-MXSR

3=TBM850 N700NB

 

[Axes.Real Air Leg]

RangeRepeatRate=10

0=0X,256,D,1,0,0,0

1=0Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

2=0Z,256,D,4,0,0,0

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4=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

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8=2X,256,D,7,0,0,0

9=2Y,256,D,8,0,0,0

10=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0

 

[Profile.F22]

1=F-22 Raptor - 525th Fighter Squadron

 

[Axes.F22]

RangeRepeatRate=10

0=0X,256,D,1,0,0,0

1=0Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

2=0Z,256,D,4,0,0,0

3=0R,256,D,3,0,0,0

4=2X,256,D,7,0,0,0

5=2Y,256,D,8,0,0,0

6=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0

 

[Profile.TBM 850]

1=TBM850 N129BX

 

[Axes.TBM 850]

RangeRepeatRate=10

0=0X,256,D,1,0,0,0

1=0Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

2=0Z,256,D,4,0,0,0

3=1X,256,D,1,0,0,0

4=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

5=1Z,256,D,4,0,0,0

6=1U,256,D,5,0,0,0

7=1V,256,D,6,0,0,0

8=2X,256,D,7,0,0,0

9=2Y,256,D,8,0,0,0

10=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0

 

[buttons.F22]

0=R1,7,C66279,0

1=R1,6,C66278,0

 

FSUIPC LOG

********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.949p by Pete Dowson *********

Prepar3D.exe version = 3.2.3.16769

Reading options from "J:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini"

Running inside Prepar3D v3 on Windows 8.0

Module base=61360000

User Name="Lee Summer"

User Addr="lee@broadwayg.com"

FSUIPC4 Key is provided

WideFS7 Key is provided

       47 System time = 13/05/2016 18:55:16

       62 FLT UNC path = "\\DESKTOP-V80MRTO\Users\lsummer\Documents\Prepar3D v3 Files\"

       62 ------ Module Version Check ------

       62        acontain.dll: 3.2.3.16769

       62             api.dll: 3.2.3.16769

       62        controls.dll: 3.2.3.16769

       62      fs-traffic.dll: 3.2.3.16769

       62             G3D.dll: 3.2.3.16769

       62        language.dll: 3.2.3.16769

       62            sim1.dll: 3.2.3.16769

       62        visualfx.dll: 3.2.3.16769

       62         weather.dll: 3.2.3.16769

       62          window.dll: 3.2.3.16769

       62 ----------------------------------

       62 Trying J:\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll

       93 Found it: trying to connect

      109 FS UNC path = "\\DESKTOP-V80MRTO\Prepar3D v3\"

      218 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan -----------------------

      218 Product= Saitek X52 Flight Control System

      218    Manufacturer= Saitek

      218    Vendor=06A3, Product=075C (Version 1.16)

      218    Serial Number= Saitek

      218 Product= Saitek Pro Flight Yoke

      218    Manufacturer= Saitek

      218    Vendor=06A3, Product=0BAC (Version 3.3)

      218    Serial Number= Saitek

      234 Product= Saitek Pro Flight Combat Rudder Pedals

      234    Manufacturer= Saitek

      234    Vendor=06A3, Product=0764 (Version 2.1)

      234    Serial Number= Saitek

      234 -------------------------------------------------------------------

      250 LogOptions=00000000 00000001

      250 -------------------------------------------------------------------

      250 ------ Setting the hooks and direct calls into the simulator ------

      250 --- CONTROLS timer memory location obtained ok

      250 --- SIM1 Frictions access gained

      250 --- FS Controls Table located ok

      250 --- Installed Mouse Macro hooks ok.

      250 --- Wind smoothing fix is installed

      250 --- All links okay (except older global weather setting method)

      250 -------------------------------------------------------------------

      250 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay

      250 Trying to use SimConnect Prepar3D

     5984 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v3", Version: 3.2.3.2 (SimConnect: 3.2.0.0)

     5984 Initialising SimConnect data requests now

     5984 FSUIPC Menu entry added

     6000 \\DESKTOP-V80MRTO\Users\lsummer\AppData\Local\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Prepar3D_Default.fxml

     6000 \\DESKTOP-V80MRTO\Prepar3D v3\SimObjects\Airplanes\IRIS Raptor Driver\Raptor.air

   419359 System time = 13/05/2016 19:02:15, Simulator time = 08:00:01 (13:00Z)

   419359 Aircraft="F-22 Raptor - 525th Fighter Squadron"

   420343 Starting everything now ...

   420343 ASN active function link set

   420343 Ready for ASN WX radar

   421515 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled

   452203 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 33 secs = 29.8 fps

   452203              Max AI traffic was 1 aircraft

   677375 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 209 secs = 29.9 fps

   677375              Max AI traffic was 0 aircraft

   774203 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 26 secs = 29.8 fps

   774203              Max AI traffic was 0 aircraft

  1370422 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 547 secs = 29.9 fps

  1370422              Max AI traffic was 0 aircraft

  1518000 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 144 secs = 29.6 fps

  1518000              Max AI traffic was 0 aircraft

 

 

[Lsummer]

Update rudders work in the air not on the ground ?? 

[ammarmalhas]

49

Seems to be normal as rudders tend to work effectively as speed is increased. It is very hard to steer large aircrafts on the ground with rudders only, hence the use of front wheel tillers.

Try to increase the sensitivety in FSUIPC; I forgot the button name but it is there next to the set buttons for each control you calibrate and it allows you to change the response of the axis (control), which you can set to cause large initial response with smaller movements. This will help you get larger effects on the ground. I am not sure how accurate this is compared to the real aircraft responses, maybe a real pilot can add his comments to benefit us all. :-)

[Thomas Richter]

Hi,

 

your FSUIPC4.ini file shows you have the Tiller calibration active

SteeringTillerControl=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
...
SteeringTiller=-16380,-512,512,16380

Even when

SteeringTillerControl=0

 

then 'a' tiller axis will be used to control the Rudder instead while the groundspeed increases towards 60kt (standard MaxSteerSpeed) and the Rudder axis is blending in again.

If you don't have a actual Tiller axis then go to Calibration tab -> page 9 and press the reset button for Tiller calibration, that will delete the entry in the INI file and deactivate the Tiller blending/ use.

[ammarmalhas]

Excuse my naive question; if I calibrate the tiller with FSUIPC, will the rudder responses be ineffective below 60knts? This is what I have as I do have a tiller.

If I remove tiller calibration and calibrate tiller in FSX will I have both rudder and tiller steering effective during taxi?

What is the correct setting? Should we be able to steer a 737 with rudders below 60?

[Pete Dowson]

Excuse my naive question; if I calibrate the tiller with FSUIPC, will the rudder responses be ineffective below 60knts? This is what I have as I do have a tiller.

If I remove tiller calibration and calibrate tiller in FSX will I have both rudder and tiller steering effective during taxi?

What is the correct setting? Should we be able to steer a 737 with rudders below 60?

Your choice. In FSX (but not before) the rudder and tiller are separate. FSUIPC's specific tiller control (assigned in the "direct FSUIPC" mode) is a control added by FSUIPC way back before FSX came out with an actual steering tiller control. You can use the FSX version if you wish, and you can assign it in FSUIPC's FS control lists. FSUIPC's one actually use the FS rudder control "under the hood"

The special arrangement in FSUIPC's, when both its tiller and the rudder are assigned and calibrated, is that the tiller has 100% control at 0 knots whilst the rudder has 100% at a set ground speed ("MaxSteerSpeed") which defaults to 60 knots. Between 0 and that speed one becomes gradually less effective and the other more effective.

The intention here is to simulate more closely the change in the real effectiveness of these two controls, where the pilot actually uses only tiller at slow ground speeds, but on the take-off roll gradually needs to be using rudder.

This is all documented in the FSUIPC User Guide, page 40 -- the boxed section.

Pete

[ammarmalhas]

Thank u Pete, most helpful as usual. :-)

[ammarmalhas]

I am ashamed to admit, on page 40 of the user guide, the answer is right there AND BOXED :oops: :oops: :oops:  :cry:

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[Lsummer]

To all who replied 

Thank you, i was messing around with the tiller access for the PMDG 777 and i did think that might have caused the problem but i did not know how to fix it. I was working like a mad man the past few weeks  and have not even turned on my rig to fix this. Pete i must say the more i learn about FSUIPC the more amazed i am about how complete and in depth you have gone with this software so once again thanks for the great work and the spot on support..

 

LEE SUMMER