Claude Troncy Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Bonjour Pete, Some products like PMDG aircrafts during init, FSIPanel...etc display informations in a green strip at the top of the simulator window Since P3DV4.1 when switching in full screen this strip is now square, small and positionned at the top left of the sim window, and difficult to read. It was not like that in P3DV4, and I first thought of a bug in the 4.1 version, but when disabling FSUIPC everything is OK. Any idea ? Cheers Claude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 7 hours ago, Claude Troncy said: Since P3DV4.1 when switching in full screen this strip is now square, small and positionned at the top left of the sim window, and difficult to read. It was not like that in P3DV4, and I first thought of a bug in the 4.1 version, but when disabling FSUIPC everything is OK. Weren't you using FSUIPC before with P3D4.0, because it hasn't changed. It sets the window size and position to the way you set it, and this is recorded in the FSUIPC5 INI file. Several Simconnect Windows are remembered, so that you can move them where you wish and size them and have them return the same next time. This facility was documented in the Changes document, thus: 13. SimConnect Window positions (including Menus) are saved in the INI file and (normally)restored.and 20. Version 5.121 quickly followed the release of 5.1 2 to fix a serious bug involving incorrect cursormovements and Window sizes If you aren't using the currently supported version of FSUIPC (5.121a) please upgrade now! Otherwise, if you are on 5.121a, Isn't it working correctly for you? Have you tried resizing / repositioning the window to suit your needs? Alternatively you can delete the [Window ...] sections you'll find in the INI, so that they revert to default next time. I might make this feature optional, enabled by an INI file. it seems to work fine for many, but not for one or two. I'd like to get to the bottom of this, really. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Troncy Posted October 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 18 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said: Weren't you using FSUIPC before with P3D4.0, because it hasn't changed. Yes I used FSUIPC 5.121b before without problem. Do I have to revert to 5.121a as it seems this is the version supported ? I will delete the [windows...] section and see how it works. Thanks Pete for your answer Cheers Claude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, Claude Troncy said: Yes I used FSUIPC 5.121b before without problem. Oh sorry. misprint. Yes, 5.121b is the latest and thev supported version. If it isn't working with 5.121b I'll need more information please, like those Windows sections. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Troncy Posted October 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Bonjour Pete Quote [Monitor] Monitor0=0,0BC2,0,0 [Window.Message Window] NewDocked=0, 1, 25, 113 [Window.SimConnectWindow] NewDocked=304, 203, 352, 196 [Window.SimConnect Message Window] NewDocked=96, 167, 1686, 76 As products like PMDG,FSIPanel... don't use FSUIPC, it means that your dll intercept something when a display occurs. Am I right ? Claude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Troncy Posted October 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 After deleting the [windows..] in the ini file... same problem. Exemple of display with FSiPanel. The first time the green strip is ok, but once in full screen it becomes a square and stays like that even when returning to windowed mode. Claude Quote [Monitor] Monitor0=0,0BC2,0,0 [Window.Message Window] NewDocked=1, 3, 118, 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 59 minutes ago, Claude Troncy said: [Window.Message Window] NewDocked=1, 3, 118, 28 Very strange. FSUIPC can't invent those values by itself. It merely records the size it finds, when the Window is displayed. Are you loading a flight which was saved a previous time that the window was like that? I think the sim saves them too. Or maybe even in the main CFG file. I''ll be releasing an interim update either tomorrow or Monday which will, by default, not alter these windows. Meanwhile, can you just try changing it your self -- stretch it, drag it, to whatever position or size you need. Let me know what happens then, please, and show me the [Window ... section of the INI afterwards. Are you running the sim in Windowed mode? If so can you try full screen? (ALT+ENTER). Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Troncy Posted October 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 After strech it, drag it, and position it Quote [Window.Message Window] NewDocked=0, 2, 59, 15 39 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said: Are you running the sim in Windowed mode? 1 hour ago, Claude Troncy said: The first time the green strip is ok, but once in full screen it becomes a square and stays like that even when returning to windowed mode. To be more precise, I start the sim in windowed mode, the strip window is OK. As soon as I enter the full screen mode, the strip become a square in the top left corner of the windows sim. Then coming back to the windowed mode, the square stays in the top left corner. 39 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said: Very strange. FSUIPC can't invent those values by itself. It was working well in P3D V4.0. I think something has change in 4.1 in the way LM display the sim in full screen. I have the feeling that there is an extra flash during the change between full screen and windowed mode. Claude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Claude Troncy said: It was working well in P3D V4.0. I think something has change in 4.1 in the way LM display the sim in full screen. I have the feeling that there is an extra flash during the change between full screen and windowed mode. Ah, that's interesting. I'll check here. FSUIPC's latest (since 5.121 actually) does not actually SET the position of that Window in anything but full screen mode. So what is likely happening is that P3D is trying to draw it in the position it should have been -- ie. starting much further to the left on the actual screen, butcannot set the left border outside its now smaller window. But why anything changed with 4.1 compared to 4.0 I don't know. Can you go into full screen mode, please, and there change that display to whatever you want -- wider, taller, in a different position. That should work and be saved. I'm not sure I can do anything about Windowed mode though. How often do you swith between them? If a lot then I think you will need to wait for my interim updte, then disable the facility. I tend to only use P3D in full screen mode, and I implemented the facility (which was requested) because it was so irritating that whenever I moved the windows to where I could read them, and AWAY from messing up the main forward view, from my cockpit window, next time I loaded P3D it was back to its normal place and size! I only go into Windowed mode to access other programs, returning to full screen afterwards. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Troncy Posted October 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Pete Dowson said: Can you go into full screen mode, please, and there change that display to whatever you want -- wider, taller, in a different position. That should work and be saved. No that did not work...... But I found something new ! I use DSR (4.00x (native resolution)) with my nvidia 1080. It is the best way for me to have less shimmering with a good AA. My native resolution is 1920 X 1200, P3D use 3840 X 2400 and the GPU downscale to the native resolution. When I do not use DSR, I do not have the problem, and everything is as it was in P3D V4.00. I will install the latest nvidia driver and see what happens. 1 hour ago, Pete Dowson said: How often do you swith between them? It is not a problem I can live like that, and wait for your interim update. There is no hurry ! Claude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Troncy Posted October 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Same problem with the latest driver from Nvidia. Claude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Claude Troncy said: But I found something new ! I use DSR (4.00x (native resolution)) with my nvidia 1080. It is the best way for me to have less shimmering with a good AA. My native resolution is 1920 X 1200, P3D use 3840 X 2400 and the GPU downscale to the native resolution. How curious. I can only think that the full screen window position and size values are given in units corresponding to one resolution, and the the other resolution for the Windowed alternative. I don't think I can automatically cope with that! However, if that's the only cause of the problem I may default to "Yes" for the FSUIPC rather than "No" and just have advice to disable it if it isn't working correctly on the way your system is set up. I will have the interim update ready tomorrow. Check the "download Links" subforum above in the afternoon. It will be version 5.121c. Pete the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Troncy Posted October 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 55 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said: It will be version 5.121c. Thank you very much. What I do not understand is why it was working in 4.0 ? LM has certainly change something. Claude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Troncy Posted October 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 Thanks Pete. Everything is OK now with the 5.121c. Cheers Claude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoTango Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Bonjour, Using P3Dv4.1 with FSUIPC 5 v5.121.b and recently I got these messages after flying 70 mn and PC was frozen on image. Please can you help ? How can I download version 5.121.c = =====> I have found. Sorry. I think this will solve my problem ! Thanks Jean N.B. Running Windows 10 64 bits Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Troncy Posted October 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 Bonjour Jean you can find the 5.121.c in the updated module section here http://forum.simflight.com/topic/80977-updated-modules/ Cheers Claude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoTango Posted October 20, 2017 Report Share Posted October 20, 2017 20 minutes ago, Claude Troncy said: Bonjour Jean you can find the 5.121.c in the updated module section here http://forum.simflight.com/topic/80977-updated-modules/ Cheers Claude Bonjour Claude, Merci j'ai trouvé...reste à tester. Bonne journée Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoTango Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 Bonjour, After installation of the version 5.121 c I managed a flight during near 3 hours without problem. Hope this will continue. Thanks Pete for your last update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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