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It still wont allow me to post the file due to the size limitations. Even after only one short session the file gets over 100k. Looking at the file I can see some mention of the commands towards the bottom. The blank commands are where the taxiway instructions should be. Basically I gave a pushback clearence to Max8541 and then tried 4 times to give a taxiway clearance ( 1. MAX8541 Runway 28 taxi via alpha (two attempts) / 2. Max 8541 Runway 28 at alpha via alpha (one attempt) followed by eventually giving the single clearance "MAX8541 runway 28" which always works because there are no taxiways mentioned but of course isn't realistic. Hopefully there will be something obvious that I have overlooked... start speech! Record error state: False speech db lengths: 8286 / 27 / 88 / 1911 / 2564 speech airplanes: MAX8541;MAGIC EIGHT FIVE FOUR ONE|DEN868;DENALI EIGHT SIX EIGHT|TAB196;LESLIE ONE NINER SIX|BLA3528;LAKES THREE FIVE TWO EIGHT|MAX8201;MAGIC EIGHT TWO ZERO ONE|VAL1174;VALUE ONE ONE SEVEN FOUR|FRT1632;FIELD AIR ONE SIX THREE TWO|N003FT;ZERO THREE FOX TANGO|TAB676;LESLIE SIX SEVEN SIX|TAB803;LESLIE EIGHT ZERO THREE|FRT4809;FIELD AIR FOUR EIGHT ZERO NINER|FRT2215;FIELD AIR TWO TWO ONE FIVE|N1219U;ONE TWO ONE NINE UNIFORM|VAL1182;VALUE ONE ONE EIGHT TWO|N151CA;ONE FIVE ONE CHARLIE ALPHA|N224QS;TWO TWO FOUR QUEBEC SIERRA|N842FT;EIGHT FOUR TWO FOX TANGO|N450PC;FOUR FIVE ZERO PAPA CHARLIE|N151PR;One FIVE ONE PAPA ROMEO|N664QS;SIX SIX FOUR QUEBEC SIERRA|N370QS;THREE SEVEN QUEBEC SIERRA|DEN1561;DENALI ONE FIVE SIX ONE|DEN1610;DENALI ONE SIX ONE ZERO|TAB867;LESLIE EIGHT SIX SEVEN|TAB808;LESLIE EIGHT ZERO EIGHT|TAB661;LESLIE SIX SIX ONE|TAB1391;LESLIE ONE THREE NINER ONE|N860QS;EIGHT SIX ZERO QUEBEC SIERRA|FRT807;FIELD AIR EIGHT ZERO SEVEN|FRT804;FIELD AIR EIGHT ZERO FOUR|TAB868;LESLIE EIGHT SIX EIGHT|FRT212;FIELD AIR TWO ONE TWO|FRT1614;FIELD AIR ONE SIX ONE FOUR|TAB2421;LESLIE TWO FOUR TWO ONE|DEN1040;DENALI ONE ZERO FOUR ZERO|DEN1289;DENALI ONE TWO EIGHT NINER|N761FT;SEVEN SIX ONE FOX TANGO|BLA3593;LAKES THREE FIVE NINER THREE|VAL1177;VALUE ONE ONE SEVEN SEVEN|VAL1186;VALUE ONE ONE EIGHT SIX|VAL1181;VALUE ONE ONE EIGHT ONE|VAL1194;VALUE ONE ONE NINER FOUR|DEN825;DENALI EIGHT TWO FIVE|DEN876;DENALI EIGHT SEVEN SIX|VAL1189;VALUE ONE ONE EIGHT NINER|VAL2110;VALUE TWO ONE ONE ZERO|FRT1615;FIELD AIR ONE SIX ONE FIVE|FRT1635;FIELD AIR ONE SIX THREE FIVE|BLA3592;LAKES THREE FIVE NINER TWO|MAX8751;MAGIC EIGHT SEVEN FIVE ONE|N136LR;ONE THREE SIX LIMA ROMEO|BTV6939;WHITE SAND SIX NINER THREE NINER|BTV329;WHITE SAND THREE TWO NINER|MAX8291;MAGIC EIGHT TWO NINER ONE|N24461;TWO FOUR FOUR SIX ONE|MAX1028;MAGIC ONE ZERO TWO EIGHT|TAB2379;LESLIE TWO THREE SEVEN NINER|N101UD;ONE ZERO ONE UNIFORM DELTA| GfxDevice: creating device client; threaded=1 13:55:06 * MAX8541 => ADD HISTORY: MAX8541: Saint Thomas Tower, MAGIC 8541 requesting push and start. 13:55:06 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 28 * DEN1561 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING 13:55:06 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 28 * DEN1561 => Activate incoming plane. SPEAK: Start speak plugin (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42) RunwayToggled: 28 Clear allowed runways Add allowed runway: 28 GfxDevice: creating device client; threaded=1 GfxDevice: creating device client; threaded=1 GfxDevice: creating device client; threaded=1 GfxDevice: creating device client; threaded=1 GfxDevice: creating device client; threaded=1 GfxDevice: creating device client; threaded=1 GfxDevice: creating device client; threaded=1 GfxDevice: creating device client; threaded=1 GfxDevice: creating device client; threaded=1 COMMAND: MAX8541 PUSHBACK APPROVED, EXPECT RUNWAY 28 13:55:17 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_GROUND t: T8_1_IN * MAX8541 => PARSE CMD: PUSHBACK APPROVED, EXPECT RUNWAY 28 13:55:17 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND t: T8_1_IN r: 28 * MAX8541 => GROUND, roadcut: GROUND, TWO EIGHT PUSHBACK APPROVED. 13:55:17 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND t: T8_1_IN r: 28 * MAX8541 => SAY: GROUND, TWO EIGHT PUSHBACK APPROVED. MAGIC EIGHT FIVE FOUR ONE 13:55:17 * MAX8541 => ADD HISTORY: MAX8541: GROUND, 28 PUSHBACK APPROVED. MAX8541 13:55:17 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND t: T8_1_IN r: 28 * MAX8541 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_WAITING to STATE_TO_RUNWAY 13:55:17 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 28 * MAX8541 => Start calc route from: T8_1_IN start idx: 29 13:55:17 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 28 * MAX8541 => Calc from: T8_1_IN 13:55:17 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 28 * MAX8541 => Route is: T8_1_IN, A, calculate time: 0.001367569s highest count: 11 13:55:17 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 28 * MAX8541 => Add trash 13:55:36 * DEN1561 => ADD HISTORY: DEN1561: Saint Thomas Tower, DENALI 1561 with you Runway 28. 13:55:46 * MAX8541 => ADD HISTORY: MAX8541: Saint Thomas Ground, MAGIC 8541 ready to taxi. COMMAND: COMMAND: COMMAND: COMMAND: MAX8541 RUNWAY 28 AT A 13:56:16 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 28 * MAX8541 => PARSE CMD: RUNWAY 28 AT A 13:56:16 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 28 * MAX8541 => RUNWAY roadcut: RUNWAY TWO EIGHT AT A 13:56:16 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 28 * MAX8541 => AT roadcut: RUNWAY TWO EIGHT AT ALFA 13:56:16 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 28 * MAX8541 => SAY: RUNWAY TWO EIGHT AT ALFA MAGIC EIGHT FIVE FOUR ONE 13:56:16 * MAX8541 => ADD HISTORY: MAX8541: RUNWAY 28 AT A MAX8541 13:56:16 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 28 * MAX8541 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_TO_RUNWAY to STATE_TO_RUNWAY 13:56:16 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 28 * MAX8541 => Start calc route from: A start idx: 10 13:56:16 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 28 * MAX8541 => Calc from: A 13:56:16 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 28 * MAX8541 => Route is: A, calculate time: 4.577637E-05s highest count: 18 13:56:16 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 28 * MAX8541 => Add trash Try open ESC menu Open ESC menu Unloading 5 Unused Serialized files (Serialized files now loaded: 0) UnloadTime: 15.478198 ms Unloading 982 unused Assets to reduce memory usage. Loaded Objects now: 3744. Total: 21.594776 ms (FindLiveObjects: 0.281107 ms CreateObjectMapping: 0.215523 ms MarkObjects: 12.218283 ms DeleteObjects: 8.879375 ms) Unloading 0 Unused Serialized files (Serialized files now loaded: 0) Unloading 6 unused Assets to reduce memory usage. Loaded Objects now: 3729. Total: 12.887040 ms (FindLiveObjects: 0.114588 ms CreateObjectMapping: 0.096790 ms MarkObjects: 12.655669 ms DeleteObjects: 0.019260 ms) Unloading 4 Unused Serialized files (Serialized files now loaded: 0) UnloadTime: 1.530607 ms Menu Airport Awake ASM: get all paths from: ./Extensions/Airfields/ (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42) OnEnable!!!!! Runways found: 18 OnEnable!!!!! Runways found: 18 Unloading 3 unused Assets to reduce memory usage. Loaded Objects now: 6605. Total: 13.729386 ms (FindLiveObjects: 0.184560 ms CreateObjectMapping: 0.078992 ms MarkObjects: 13.441696 ms DeleteObjects: 0.023892 ms) BUILD VERSION: v1.2.78.1044ns SP3.3c start speech! Record error state: False SPEAK: Start speak plugin (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42) {"success":true,"data":[]}

Hi EliGrim, I have had RL issues to address for about a year which prevented me from being able to troubleshoot the issue any further which is why I left the original thread and considered Tower3D to be temporarily unusable. I was hoping that eventually a service pack would fix the issue anyway. I came back today to revisit Tower3D and unfortunately I learnt the latest version still sufferers from the issue with taxi via not working. I have tried different speech paces and as part of switching over to the latest version done a complete reinstall. The speech is set to the US language pack (required already by multiple software's such as FS2crew ) Speech is trained and using a USB headset in a quiet room. There is no Antivirus that could be interfering. I must stress that the recognition is working. I have a quality headset and use it often for speech recognition. It is just this ONE command that has NEVER worked. Not even one single time. All commands work perfectly fine accept "via". I have already tried modifying tower3d.rec to replace "via" with other words to make them easier for the system to recognize (even using silly ones just to be as easy as possible to recognize) . No matter what word I use to replace "via" that word them become unrecognizable by the system. I think part of the problem here is a bit of a confirmation bias to tend to believe the system is not recognizing speech. What I have learnt is that there is something not really speech related which is preventing the speech recognition inserting the taxi via command into the software. I dont believe it is related to audio quality because I know from other softwares and from years of use that recognition is very reliable. The problem is I dont know enough about how this software interfaces with the recognition software to be able to troubleshoot further. Only feelthere know that. Which is why I need their help. Either they or someone else who has had the same issue and been able to fix it. Kind regards JB

Hi folks, My VR profile has no issues in Tower3D except for the "taxi via" commands. Even the more complex triple barrel takeoff clearances are no issue. I am have completed the actions described at the beginning of the post. However as i have mentioned the issue seems to not be a recognition problem but more a coding problem. Since intersection takeoff clearances and exit clearances that involve taxiways always work perfectly. (as do all taxi commands on the old Tower 2011.) I do use a great many ATC speech recognition software (Tower 2011, TRACON, London Control, ATCpro, VOXatcX, ATCsimulator2 and various FS2CREW versions). Speech recognition quality is never an issue. My log files are too big to send via this system please PM me an email address where I can send them to (if required). This issue has continued for over a year ( I was hoping at service pack would fix it ) but at this point I have run out of ideas. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. JB

Hi Winsaudi, Thank you for the reply :-) Yes I'm using the right syntax you described in your post. I'm really starting to believe the issue has some other cause aside from VR. Even difficult phrases can usually be recognized some of the time but the taxi via commands have never been recognized - not even one time. Oddly other taxing related instructions work fine. i.e the exit via taxiway and intersection takeoff instructions never have any problems. I have completed the items in the VR post but as I said previously I dont believe it is a VR issue since windows 7 can hear what i say and type it correctly in word pad. Anyone have any ideas? System is Win 7 Ultimate 64bit i7 7700k 32gb ram

Hi folks, I've been using VR on my computer for many years with no issues. VR softwares that I use without problems include London Control, Voxatc, Tower 2011, Tracon, ATC simulator 2, Dragon dictation software. My VR profile has no issues in Tower3D except for the taxi via commands. Even the more complex triple barrel takeoff clearances are no issue. I'm at my wits end to be honest. On the verge of asking for a refund. I can't understand why the commands are not working as speech recognition is able to translate the commands into text correctly on wordpad. Anyone have any ideas? Cheers JB