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Your fix seems to have worked! There is this line that I don't understand, yet everything is working: 14=Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) 14.GUID={41A13450-5786-11EB-8019-444553540000} A=<< MISSING JOYSTICK >> << MISSING JOYSTICK >> Not sure what the log "Product= <not readable at this time: maybe device disconnected?>" errors are Is there anything else you see? 2021-08-14 after changes.zip

Simply renumbering 4 to 6 didn't work- It automatically changed back to 4. Made several attempts and multiple runs of P3D It is working now after I moved ALL of the JOYIDs to new, never used positions SEE Screenshot. The files are a mess, showing lots of errors, but it is working. LOL I don't think I mentioned it in my first post, but I was already using JoyID, and have for years. AND I had tried moving the rudders to a different slot in the order, always keeping them grouped at the top with the lowest ID numbers. What I did differently this time was move them all at the same time to the bottom. I have rebooted and started P3D several times and everything continues to work and seems stable, in spite of the errors noted in the files. Are we done or is there something else I should do? Fundamentally, knowing there are registry errors bothers me, but its working. Thanks Desktop.zip

Zip Attached to first entry. Sorry

Again, the site will not let me attach all 3 required files. This entry from the .csv looks like the root problem: N x00 x044F x0402 Joystick - HOTAS Warthog -1 -1 4 {NULL} {A95A3B10-6AE5-11EB-8007-444553540000} {NULL} N N N x00 x06A3 x0763 Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals -1 -1 1 {NULL} {A9586650-6AE5-11EB-8002-444553540000} {NULL} N N

Good? flags VID PID Name INIid REGid RegEntry INIguid REGguid HIDguid ValsOK? ReadsOk? HIDscanning completed N x00 x046D xC21D -1 -1 0 {NULL} {NULL} {41991E00-5786-11EB-8009-444553540000} Y N N x00 x1532 x0207 -1 -1 0 {NULL} {NULL} {A95754E0-6AE5-11EB-8001-444553540000} Y N N x00 x1532 x0207 -1 -1 0 {NULL} {NULL} {A95977C0-6AE5-11EB-8006-444553540000} Y N N x00 x044F x0402 -1 -1 0 {NULL} {NULL} {41994510-5786-11EB-800A-444553540000} Y N N x00 x06A3 x0763 -1 -1 0 {NULL} {NULL} {41991E00-5786-11EB-8009-444553540000} Y N N x00 x044F x0404 -1 -1 0 {NULL} {NULL} {419A2F70-5786-11EB-800B-444553540000} Y N N x00 x068E x00FA -1 -1 0 {NULL} {NULL} {41977050-5786-11EB-8001-444553540000} Y N N x00 x1532 x022B -1 -1 0 {NULL} {NULL} {41A13450-5786-11EB-8019-444553540000} Y N N x00 x1532 x022B -1 -1 0 {NULL} {NULL} {419833A0-5786-11EB-8003-444553540000} Y N N x00 x1532 x022B -1 -1 0 {NULL} {NULL} {419A7D90-5786-11EB-800E-444553540000} Y N N x00 x1532 x022B -1 -1 0 {NULL} {NULL} {419AF2C0-5786-11EB-8015-444553540000} Y N REGscanning completed N x00 x046D xC21D Controller (Gamepad F310) -1 0 0 {NULL} {41991E00-5786-11EB-8009-444553540000} {41991E00-5786-11EB-8009-444553540000} Y Y N x00 x1532 x0207 Razer Orbweaver Chroma -1 2 0 {NULL} {A95754E0-6AE5-11EB-8001-444553540000} {A95754E0-6AE5-11EB-8001-444553540000} Y Y N x00 x1532 x0207 Razer Orbweaver Chroma -1 4 3 {NULL} {A95977C0-6AE5-11EB-8006-444553540000} {A95977C0-6AE5-11EB-8006-444553540000} Y N N x00 x1532 x0207 Razer Orbweaver Chroma -1 -1 1 {NULL} {A9586650-6AE5-11EB-8002-444553540000} {NULL} N N N x00 x1532 x0207 Razer Orbweaver Chroma -1 4 0 {NULL} {419BB610-5786-11EB-8017-444553540000} {NULL} N Y N x00 x1532 x0207 Razer Orbweaver Chroma -1 -1 2 {NULL} {A958DB80-6AE5-11EB-8003-444553540000} {NULL} N N N x00 x044F x0402 Joystick - HOTAS Warthog -1 -1 4 {NULL} {A95A3B10-6AE5-11EB-8007-444553540000} {NULL} N N N x00 x06A3 x0763 Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals -1 -1 1 {NULL} {A9586650-6AE5-11EB-8002-444553540000} {NULL} N N N x00 x06A3 x0763 Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals -1 4 0 {NULL} {419BB610-5786-11EB-8017-444553540000} {NULL} N Y N x00 x044F x0404 Throttle - HOTAS Warthog -1 5 0 {NULL} {419A2F70-5786-11EB-800B-444553540000} {419A2F70-5786-11EB-800B-444553540000} Y Y N x00 x068E x00FA CH THROTTLE QUADRANT -1 1 0 {NULL} {41977050-5786-11EB-8001-444553540000} {41977050-5786-11EB-8001-444553540000} Y Y N x00 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 3 5 {NULL} {41A13450-5786-11EB-8019-444553540000} {41A13450-5786-11EB-8019-444553540000} Y Y N x00 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 7 0 {NULL} {419833A0-5786-11EB-8003-444553540000} {419833A0-5786-11EB-8003-444553540000} Y N N x00 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 8 1 {NULL} {419A7D90-5786-11EB-800E-444553540000} {419A7D90-5786-11EB-800E-444553540000} Y N N x00 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 9 4 {NULL} {419AF2C0-5786-11EB-8015-444553540000} {419AF2C0-5786-11EB-8015-444553540000} Y N N x00 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 -1 2 {NULL} {419A7D90-5786-11EB-800F-444553540000} {NULL} N N N x00 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 -1 3 {NULL} {419AA4A0-5786-11EB-8011-444553540000} {NULL} N N User settings imported N x00 x046D xC21D Controller (Gamepad F310) 0 0 0 {41991E00-5786-11EB-8009-444553540000} {41991E00-5786-11EB-8009-444553540000} {41991E00-5786-11EB-8009-444553540000} Y Y N x00 x1532 x0207 Razer Orbweaver Chroma 2 2 0 {A95754E0-6AE5-11EB-8001-444553540000} {A95754E0-6AE5-11EB-8001-444553540000} {A95754E0-6AE5-11EB-8001-444553540000} Y Y N x00 x1532 x0207 Razer Orbweaver Chroma -1 4 3 {NULL} {A95977C0-6AE5-11EB-8006-444553540000} {A95977C0-6AE5-11EB-8006-444553540000} Y N N x00 x1532 x0207 Razer Orbweaver Chroma -1 -1 1 {NULL} {A9586650-6AE5-11EB-8002-444553540000} {NULL} N N N x00 x1532 x0207 Razer Orbweaver Chroma -1 4 0 {NULL} {419BB610-5786-11EB-8017-444553540000} {NULL} N Y N x00 x1532 x0207 Razer Orbweaver Chroma -1 -1 2 {NULL} {A958DB80-6AE5-11EB-8003-444553540000} {NULL} N N N x00 x044F x0402 Joystick - HOTAS Warthog -1 -1 4 {NULL} {A95A3B10-6AE5-11EB-8007-444553540000} {NULL} N N N x00 x06A3 x0763 Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals -1 -1 1 {NULL} {A9586650-6AE5-11EB-8002-444553540000} {NULL} N N N x00 x06A3 x0763 Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals -1 4 0 {NULL} {419BB610-5786-11EB-8017-444553540000} {NULL} N Y N x00 x044F x0404 Throttle - HOTAS Warthog 5 5 0 {419A2F70-5786-11EB-800B-444553540000} {419A2F70-5786-11EB-800B-444553540000} {419A2F70-5786-11EB-800B-444553540000} Y Y N x00 x068E x00FA CH THROTTLE QUADRANT 1 1 0 {41977050-5786-11EB-8001-444553540000} {41977050-5786-11EB-8001-444553540000} {41977050-5786-11EB-8001-444553540000} Y Y N x00 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) 3 3 5 {41A13450-5786-11EB-8019-444553540000} {41A13450-5786-11EB-8019-444553540000} {41A13450-5786-11EB-8019-444553540000} Y Y N x00 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 7 0 {NULL} {419833A0-5786-11EB-8003-444553540000} {419833A0-5786-11EB-8003-444553540000} Y N N x00 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 8 1 {NULL} {419A7D90-5786-11EB-800E-444553540000} {419A7D90-5786-11EB-800E-444553540000} Y N N x00 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 9 4 {NULL} {419AF2C0-5786-11EB-8015-444553540000} {419AF2C0-5786-11EB-8015-444553540000} Y N N x00 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 -1 2 {NULL} {419A7D90-5786-11EB-800F-444553540000} {NULL} N N N x00 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 -1 3 {NULL} {419AA4A0-5786-11EB-8011-444553540000} {NULL} N N Values matched and decided Y x1E x046D xC21D Controller (Gamepad F310) 0 0 0 {41991E00-5786-11EB-8009-444553540000} {41991E00-5786-11EB-8009-444553540000} {41991E00-5786-11EB-8009-444553540000} Y Y Y x1E x1532 x0207 Razer Orbweaver Chroma 2 2 0 {A95754E0-6AE5-11EB-8001-444553540000} {A95754E0-6AE5-11EB-8001-444553540000} {A95754E0-6AE5-11EB-8001-444553540000} Y Y N x16 x1532 x0207 Razer Orbweaver Chroma -1 4 3 {NULL} {A95977C0-6AE5-11EB-8006-444553540000} {A95977C0-6AE5-11EB-8006-444553540000} Y N N x11 x1532 x0207 Razer Orbweaver Chroma -1 -1 1 {NULL} {A9586650-6AE5-11EB-8002-444553540000} {NULL} N N (Y) x19 x1532 x0207 Razer Orbweaver Chroma 4 4 0 {NULL} {419BB610-5786-11EB-8017-444553540000} {NULL} N Y N x11 x1532 x0207 Razer Orbweaver Chroma -1 -1 2 {NULL} {A958DB80-6AE5-11EB-8003-444553540000} {NULL} N N N x11 x044F x0402 Joystick - HOTAS Warthog -1 -1 4 {NULL} {A95A3B10-6AE5-11EB-8007-444553540000} {NULL} N N N x11 x06A3 x0763 Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals -1 -1 1 {NULL} {A9586650-6AE5-11EB-8002-444553540000} {NULL} N N (Y) x19 x06A3 x0763 Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals 4 4 0 {NULL} {419BB610-5786-11EB-8017-444553540000} {NULL} N Y Y x1E x044F x0404 Throttle - HOTAS Warthog 5 5 0 {419A2F70-5786-11EB-800B-444553540000} {419A2F70-5786-11EB-800B-444553540000} {419A2F70-5786-11EB-800B-444553540000} Y Y Y x1E x068E x00FA CH THROTTLE QUADRANT 1 1 0 {41977050-5786-11EB-8001-444553540000} {41977050-5786-11EB-8001-444553540000} {41977050-5786-11EB-8001-444553540000} Y Y Y x1E x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) 3 3 5 {41A13450-5786-11EB-8019-444553540000} {41A13450-5786-11EB-8019-444553540000} {41A13450-5786-11EB-8019-444553540000} Y Y N x16 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 7 0 {NULL} {419833A0-5786-11EB-8003-444553540000} {419833A0-5786-11EB-8003-444553540000} Y N N x16 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 8 1 {NULL} {419A7D90-5786-11EB-800E-444553540000} {419A7D90-5786-11EB-800E-444553540000} Y N N x16 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 9 4 {NULL} {419AF2C0-5786-11EB-8015-444553540000} {419AF2C0-5786-11EB-8015-444553540000} Y N N x11 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 -1 2 {NULL} {419A7D90-5786-11EB-800F-444553540000} {NULL} N N N x11 x1532 x022B Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) -1 -1 3 {NULL} {419AA4A0-5786-11EB-8011-444553540000} {NULL} N N

For some reason the site is limiting my attachment size: ********* FSUIPC6, Version 6.1.1 (9th May 2021) by Pete & John Dowson ********* Prepar3D.exe version = 5.2.22.27615 Running inside Prepar3D v5 Module base=7FFDBCA70000 Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit reported as Build 19043, Release ID: 2009 (OS 10.0) Reading options from "D:\P3D\FSUIPC\FSUIPC6.ini" Checking the Registrations now ... User Name="Michael Corder" User Addr="mike@mwcorder.com" FSUIPC6 Key is provided WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired 16 System time = 10/08/2021 12:11:59 16 FLT path = "C:\Users\MWCORDER\Documents\Prepar3D v5 Files\" 16 Using DialogMode 31 FS path = "D:\P3D\" 109 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan ----------------------- 109 Product= Controller (XBOX 360 For Windows) 109 Vendor=046D, Product=C21D (Version 0.0) 219 GUIDs returned for product: VID_046D&PID_C21D: 219 GUID= {41991E00-5786-11EB-8009-444553540000} 219 Details: Btns=10, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U65535,V65535,X65535,Y65535,Z65535 219 Product= <not readable at this time: maybe device disconnected?> 219 Vendor=1532, Product=0207 (Version 1.1) 219 GUIDs returned for product: VID_1532&PID_0207: 219 GUID= {A95754E0-6AE5-11EB-8001-444553540000} 219 Details: Btns=24, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R255,U255,V255,X255,Y255,Z255 219 GUID= {A95977C0-6AE5-11EB-8006-444553540000} 219 Details: Btns=1, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U0,V0,X0,Y0,Z0 219 Product= Joystick - HOTAS Warthog 219 Manufacturer= Thustmaster 219 Vendor=044F, Product=0402 (Version 1.0) 219 GUIDs returned for product: VID_044F&PID_0402: 219 GUID= {41994510-5786-11EB-800A-444553540000} 219 Details: Btns=19, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U0,V0,X65535,Y65535,Z0 219 Product= Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals 219 Manufacturer= Saitek 219 Vendor=06A3, Product=0763 (Version 1.0) 219 Product= Throttle - HOTAS Warthog 219 Manufacturer= Thrustmaster 219 Vendor=044F, Product=0404 (Version 1.0) 219 GUIDs returned for product: VID_044F&PID_0404: 219 GUID= {419A2F70-5786-11EB-800B-444553540000} 219 Details: Btns=32, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R16383,U1023,V0,X1023,Y1023,Z16383 219 Product= CH THROTTLE QUADRANT 219 Manufacturer= CH PRODUCTS 219 Vendor=068E, Product=00FA (Version 0.0) 219 GUIDs returned for product: VID_068E&PID_00FA: 219 GUID= {41977050-5786-11EB-8001-444553540000} 219 Details: Btns=12, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R255,U255,V255,X255,Y255,Z255 219 Product= <not readable at this time: maybe device disconnected?> 219 Vendor=1532, Product=022B (Version 1.1) 219 GUIDs returned for product: VID_1532&PID_022B: 219 GUID= {41A13450-5786-11EB-8019-444553540000} 219 Details: Btns=24, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R255,U255,V255,X255,Y255,Z255 219 GUID= {419833A0-5786-11EB-8003-444553540000} 219 Details: Btns=1024, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U0,V0,X0,Y0,Z0 219 GUID= {419A7D90-5786-11EB-800E-444553540000} 219 Details: Btns=573, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U0,V0,X0,Y0,Z0 219 GUID= {419AF2C0-5786-11EB-8015-444553540000} 219 Details: Btns=1, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U0,V0,X0,Y0,Z0 219 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 250 WARNING: Joystick ID 4 is duplicated in Registry 312 Device acquired for use: 312 Joystick ID = 0 (Registry okay) 312 0=Controller (Gamepad F310) 312 0.GUID={41991E00-5786-11EB-8009-444553540000} 312 Device acquired for use: 312 Joystick ID = 2 (Registry okay) 312 2=Razer Orbweaver Chroma 312 2.GUID={A95754E0-6AE5-11EB-8001-444553540000} 312 Device acquired for use: 312 Joystick ID = 4 (Registry okay) 312 4=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals 312 4.GUID={419BB610-5786-11EB-8017-444553540000} 312 Device acquired for use: 312 Joystick ID = 5 (Registry okay) 312 5=Throttle - HOTAS Warthog 312 5.GUID={419A2F70-5786-11EB-800B-444553540000} 312 Device acquired for use: 312 Joystick ID = 1 (Registry okay) 312 1=CH THROTTLE QUADRANT 312 1.GUID={41977050-5786-11EB-8001-444553540000} 312 Device acquired for use: 312 Joystick ID = 3 (Registry okay) 312 3=Joystick (Razer Tartarus V2) 312 3.GUID={41A13450-5786-11EB-8019-444553540000} 312 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 375 Controllers are set to OFF 375 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 375 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 375 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 375 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 7656 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v5", Version: 5.2.22.27615 (SimConnect: 5.2.0.0) 7656 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 7656 FSUIPC Menu entry added 7656 ... Using Prepar3D with Academic License 8906 C:\Users\MWCORDER\Documents\Prepar3D v5 Files\Piper Cub NC77583 - 2021-05-14 21-42-11.fxml 8906 D:\P3D\SimObjects\Airplanes\Piper_J3Cub\Piper_J3Cub.air 45516 D:\P3D\SimObjects\Airplanes\PMDG 777-300ER\B777-300ER.air 45516 PMDG 777 offsets enabled 45750 ### The user object is 'PMDG 777-300ER American Airlines (N719AN | 2013)' 45750 ### Mode is NORMAL 50500 ### Mode: PAUSE on 83750 Loading Complete ... 83766 ### Mode is NORMAL 84719 Aircraft loaded: running normally now ... 84750 User Aircraft ID 1 supplied, now being used 85359 System time = 10/08/2021 12:13:25, Simulator time = 13:44:16 (20:44Z) 85375 Aircraft="PMDG 777-300ER American Airlines (N719AN | 2013)" 91562 -------------------- Starting everything now ---------------------- 91641 ASN active function link set 91641 Ready for ActiveSky WX radar with additional data 92812 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 203375 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 119 secs = 39.3 fps 203375 Max AI traffic was 0 aircraft 203375 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 753000 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 489 secs = 39.7 fps 753000 Max AI traffic was 0 aircraft 753000 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 755578 === Closing session: waiting for DLLStop to be called ... 766219 === DLLStop called ... 766219 === Closing external processes we started ... 766719 === About to kill any Lua plug-ins still running ... 766875 === Closing global Lua thread 767641 === About to kill my timers ... 767844 === Restoring window procs ... 767844 === Unloading libraries ... 767844 === stopping other threads ... 767844 === ... Button scanning ... 767937 === ... Axis scanning ... 768031 === Releasing joystick devices ... 768031 === Freeing macro memory 768031 === Removing any offset overrides 768031 === Clearing any displays left 768031 === NOTE: not calling SimConnect_Close ... 768031 === AI slots deleted! 768031 === Freeing button memory ... 768031 === Deleting wxstationlist.bin file ... 768031 === Closing my Windows ... 768047 === Freeing FS libraries ... 769047 === Closing devices ... 769047 === Closing the Log ... Bye Bye! ... 769047 System time = 10/08/2021 12:24:48, Simulator time = 13:54:29 (20:54Z) 769047 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Minimum frame rate was 38.0 fps, Maximum was 39.8 fps Average frame rate for running time of 612 secs = 39.6 fps Maximum AI traffic for session was 0 aircraft Memory managed: 293 Allocs, 292 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed ***********

In P3Dv5 I cannot have my Saitek Rudder Pedals and my Thrust Master Warthog Joystick working at the same time. At bootup, the pedals are available but not the joystick. If I unplug the pedals the joystick becomes available and works normally. If I reconnect the pedals they do not work and the joystick continues to work. Both devices are always seen in Windows and work normally in X-Plane and MSFS. I disconnected them along with the Thrustmaster throttle and uninstalled everything, re-booted, and then re-connected to the same error, only that the error "moved" in that previously it was ID2 that was duplicated and now it is #4. AutoAssignLetters is set to Yes. It's as though the duplicate pedals entry in the registry somehow has the ID of the joystick? I built this PC 7 months ago and it had a clean Win10 Pro install so it is relatively fresh. it is only used for flight simming with XP, MSFS, & P3D installed. I had not installed P3D until recently only to try and use my PMDG & FS Labs planes. I also have not added or eliminated any hardware since building the PC, so I am confused as to how the duplication could have happened? It seems to me that the duplication in the registry is probably the root issue. I have searched the registry and have not been able to find the duplication. I fooled around with the fsuipc.ini file trying to force it to no avail. I do not believe I did any harm. Your help will be most appreciated. fsuipc files.zip