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Hi Pete
Not having much luck! I've plenty of memory, it's a dual core Toshiba laptop which I use only for flight simming, emailing and browsing, any downloads go onto an external hard drive. I know that's not relevant and you'll say my hard drive could be faulty. It's not!
I've installed fs9 again without add ons but with the update 9.1 which the install log does not recognise( I think).
When running fs9 the modules tab, when opened and fsuipc is clicked upon, it appears unregistered again!
There is no fsuipc log file either!
Installer for FSUIPC.DLL version 3.998g
Looking in registry for FS9.1 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\9.1
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\9.1
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for FS9 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\9.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... >>> OK! FOUND FS9! <<< ...
Looking in registry for FS8 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\8.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\8.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for FS7 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\7.0
Parameter"path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\7.0
Parameter"path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for FS6.1 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\6.1
Parameter"InstallDir"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\6.1
Parameter"InstallDir"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for CFS2 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\2.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\2.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for CFS1 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\1.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\1.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
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INSTALLATION FOR FS9:
EXE Path="C:\FS9"
Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC installed in:
C:\FS9\Modules\FSUIPC.DLL
... No previous valid version found.
Okay -- installed FSUIPC into "C:\FS9\Modules\FSUIPC.DLL"
"Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder created okay!
Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder:
Installed "FSUIPC User Guide.pdf" okay
Installed "FSUIPC for Advanced Users.pdf" okay
Installed "FSUIPC History.pdf" okay
Installed "List of FS2004 controls.pdf" okay
Installed "GlobalSign Root.exe" okay
Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay
Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay
Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay
Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay
Installed "LuaFileSystem.pdf" okay
Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay
Installed "SIMSAMURAI+FSUIPC+TUTORIAL.pdf" okay
FSUIPC.DLL installed and signature checked out okay!
Deleted GlobalSign Root fix program ... no longer relevant
===========================================================
All installer tasks completed okay!
Registration for FSUIPC was successful! (result code 00)
*************** End of Install Log ***************
:cry:
Rgds
Nigel
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I didn't install Actigate myself, one of my addons did but not sure which one.
I'll remove it as suggested, but first I'll have to do a complete re installation of FS9 as I can only get the splash screen now and then it shuts down.
Regards
Nigel
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Sorry I thought I had answered the question, When I open "modules" when flight sim is running, the drop down menu gives me actigate, FSUIPC, and start squawkbox, I can click on FSUIPC and when it opens it's there that it says it's unregistered.
I think I shall uninstall everything and reinstall anywhere but not in program files.
I've a long night ahead!
Nigel
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I see, I think. I restarted FS9.1 and this time it was unregistered again! But here is the log file I found.
********* FSUIPC, Version 3.998g by Pete Dowson *********
Running on Windows Version 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Verifying Certificate for "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\MODULES\FSUIPC.DLL" now ...
SUCCESS! Signature verifies okay!
Running inside FS2004 (FS9.1 CONTROLS.DLL, FS9.1 WEATHER.DLL)
User Name="Nigel Buchalter"
User Addr="nbuchalter@utvinternet.com"
FSUIPC Key is provided
WIDEFS not user registered, or expired
Module base=61000000
WeatherReadInterval=4
LogOptions=00000001
DebugStatus=15
4945 System time = 24/11/2011 11:14:03
4961 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\
4961 System time = 24/11/2011 11:14:03, FS2004 time = 12:00:00 (00:00Z)
33244 C:\Users\Nigel\Documents\Flight Simulator Files\Vienna to Dublin.flt
33275 AIRCRAFT\emd_738w\EMD738.air
33275 Aircraft="Emerald Air Boeing 737-800W"
39734 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled
61823 AIRCRAFT\EMD_772M_2\EMD772OS.air
61823 Aircraft="Emerald Air Boeing 777-200 v3"
71090 C:\Users\Nigel\Documents\Flight Simulator Files\UI generated flight.flt
72244 Clear All Weather requested: external weather discarded
81277 Traffic File #14 = "scenery\world\scenery\traffic030528"
416928 WeatherOptions set, now 40003605 (timer=0)
665095 System time = 24/11/2011 11:25:03, FS2004 time = 10:21:12 (10:21Z)
665095 *** FSUIPC log file being closed
Memory managed: 0 Allocs, 24982 Freed
********* FSUIPC Log file closed ***********
It appears registered there. But hasn't picked up on the next time I started the program.
So you are saying I should reinstall FS9 + update (9.1) onto the hard drive anywhere except program files and all the addons?
Nigel
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Thanks for advice, I have FS9.1update installed, running Windows 7 Ultimate and had already selected properties and compatibility.....still I guess programs do interfere with one another somehow.
Rgds
Nigel
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Success!
I have just run FS9 by right clicking and "run as administrator" and it now appears registered.
Also, the FSUIPC. Log file has appeared.
Many thanks for your help.
Nigel
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I'm sorry Pete but there is no FSUIPC.LOG. In the modules folder. There is only the FSUIPC documents folder and then FSUIPC install (the only text document), FSUIPC.DLL and FSUIPC.key
I have hidden folders allowed.
What am I overlooking?
Rgds
Nigel
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Hi Pete,
The date is correct. I have just run FS9 and here is the FSUIPC.LOG file although it looks the same as yesterdays one.
Installer for FSUIPC.DLL version 3.998g
Looking in registry for FS9.1 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\9.1
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\9.1
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for FS9 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\9.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... >>> OK! FOUND FS9! <<< ...
Looking in registry for FS8 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\8.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\8.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for FS7 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\7.0
Parameter"path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\7.0
Parameter"path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for FS6.1 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\6.1
Parameter"InstallDir"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\6.1
Parameter"InstallDir"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for CFS2 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\2.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\2.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for CFS1 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\1.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\1.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
===========================================================
INSTALLATION FOR FS9:
EXE Path="C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9"
Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC installed in:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\Modules\FSUIPC.DLL
... No previous valid version found.
Okay -- installed FSUIPC into "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\Modules\FSUIPC.DLL"
"Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder created okay!
Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder:
Installed "FSUIPC User Guide.pdf" okay
Installed "FSUIPC for Advanced Users.pdf" okay
Installed "FSUIPC History.pdf" okay
Installed "List of FS2004 controls.pdf" okay
Installed "GlobalSign Root.exe" okay
Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay
Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay
Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay
Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay
Installed "LuaFileSystem.pdf" okay
Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay
Installed "SIMSAMURAI+FSUIPC+TUTORIAL.pdf" okay
FSUIPC.DLL installed and signature checked out okay!
Deleted GlobalSign Root fix program ... no longer relevant
===========================================================
All installer tasks completed okay!
Registration for FSUIPC was successful! (result code 00)
*************** End of Install Log ***************
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Hi again Pete,
No luck yet. I wonder is it something blindingly obvious that I've overlooked, or am I just very unlucky?
Nigel
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Thank you Pete for your quick reply.
Just installed version 3.998g but unfortunately it didn't register either. I'll do a registry clean, and try again and choose the option "delete all previous registrations"
Hope to let you know shortly.
Nigel
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Hi Pete
I'm not having any success when registering FSUIPC.
I have even re installed FS9
Please let me know if you need any more information, as my detailed account of what has been happening disappeared with a clumsy slip of the fingers on the keyboard a few moments ago.
Here is the install log, even though it says registration successful, it isn't!
Thank you for your patience!
Installer for FSUIPC.DLL version 3.991
Looking in registry for FS9.1 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\9.1
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\9.1
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for FS9 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\9.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... >>> OK! FOUND FS9! <<< ...
Looking in registry for FS8 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\8.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\8.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for FS7 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\7.0
Parameter"path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\7.0
Parameter"path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for FS6.1 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\6.1
Parameter"InstallDir"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\6.1
Parameter"InstallDir"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for CFS2 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\2.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\2.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for CFS1 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\1.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\1.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
===========================================================
INSTALLATION FOR FS9:
EXE Path="C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9"
Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC installed in:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\Modules\FSUIPC.DLL
... Version 3.998eôv°p3 found.
Installed version is later: it is not overwritten.
"Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder already exists.
Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder:
Installed "FSUIPC User Guide.pdf" okay
Installed "FSUIPC for Advanced Users.pdf" okay
Installed "FSUIPC History.pdf" okay
Installed "List of FS2004 controls.pdf" okay
Installed "GlobalSign Root.exe" okay
Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay
Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay
Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay
Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay
Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay
Installed "SIMSAMURAI+FSUIPC+TUTORIAL.pdf" okay
FSUIPC.DLL installed and signature checked out okay!
Deleted GlobalSign Root fix program ... no longer relevant
===========================================================
All installer tasks completed okay!
Registration for FSUIPC was successful! (result code 00)
*************** End of Install Log ***************
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I have not heard of such behaviour before, but it may be related to the recent security changes in Windows. Please go to the Download Links subforum and get the latest 3.998 update.
Let me know.
Regards
Pete
Thank you, that seems to have worked. I've a feeling my add on scenery (Eiresim Dublin 2009) also caused problems as it disappears too. ActiGate disappeared also when I uninstalled it. I've re installed it (ActiGate) and started and closed FS9 several times now and your program FSUIPC has remained registered to me.
Many thanks
Nigel
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Hello Pete
I have the registered version of FSUIPC 3.99 for FS9 using Windows 7. When I go to the module in order to calibrate the joystick it tells me the version is unregistered. I then re install the program and insert the key and everything is fine until next start up of FS9. I have re entered the key many times now and have not found out why this keeps happening. I hope the log below will help you. Many thanks
Nigel
Installer for FSUIPC.DLL version 3.991
Looking in registry for FS9.1 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\9.1
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\9.1
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for FS9 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\9.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... >>> OK! FOUND FS9! <<< ...
Looking in registry for FS8 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\8.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\8.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for FS7 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\7.0
Parameter"path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\7.0
Parameter"path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for FS6.1 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\6.1
Parameter"InstallDir"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\6.1
Parameter"InstallDir"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for CFS2 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\2.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\2.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for CFS1 install path:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\1.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
Not there, so looking in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Combat Flight Simulator\1.0
Parameter"EXE Path"
... NOT found! ...
===========================================================
INSTALLATION FOR FS9:
EXE Path="C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\"
Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC installed in:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\Modules\FSUIPC.DLL
... Version 3.991 found.
Okay -- installed FSUIPC into "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\Modules\FSUIPC.DLL"
"Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder already exists.
Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder:
Installed "FSUIPC User Guide.pdf" okay
Installed "FSUIPC for Advanced Users.pdf" okay
Installed "FSUIPC History.pdf" okay
Installed "List of FS2004 controls.pdf" okay
Installed "GlobalSign Root.exe" okay
Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay
Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay
Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay
Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay
Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay
Installed "SIMSAMURAI+FSUIPC+TUTORIAL.pdf" okay
FSUIPC.DLL installed and signature checked out okay!
Deleted GlobalSign Root fix program ... no longer relevant
===========================================================
All installer tasks completed okay!
Registration for FSUIPC was successful! (result code 00)
*************** End of Install Log ***************
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Thank you for all your help.
I have succeeded in regaining full control whilst taxiing. It makes the hobby so much more enjoyable and appears very realistic.
I disabled the force feedback in order to calibrate the rudder, ailerons and elevator. Having done that I re-enabled the force feedback and although I haven't noticed any bumps, rattles or "force" yet I'm so pleased to be able to steer properly again I don't mind anyway.
Many thanks
Nigel
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FS doesn't simulate a steerable nose wheel -- the steering is by rudder authority
I'm sorry, yes you are right of course! I just thought that "it" (the joystick) knew what it was supposed to do!
I fly mainly the Airbus range, from A320's to A340 600's and also most of the
Boeing's fleet, my favourite aircraft is the BOAC Super VC10.
From what you have told me, I think I may have to spend quite some time learning how to calibrate the joystick.
I remember when I first bought and installed the joystick it worked very well including all the rattles and bumps. Whatever I have done since I can't seem to undo even though I've a new computer. I should try using it on another simmers computer just to see if the hardware is damaged.
I appreciate your replies and helpfulness......it urges me on to overcome the joysticks improper behaviour.
Thanks again
Nigel
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Thank you Pete for the reply.
What I really should be doing to end the lack of control in steering the aircraft with the nose wheel during taxiing and accelerating down the runway, is to make the twist action on the joystick less sensitive, as the slightest movement causes the wheel to turn almost 90 degrees to the right or left.
I should expereiment with different values during calibration and then select the one I am happiest with.
I'll be very satisfied when I get it right as I have spent more hours on the computer putting in sounds, panels and AFCAD files than I have spent flying.
Thank you for your advice, I'll send you a message announcing my success.
Regards
Nigel
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Thank you Pete
Am I right in saying that because I have a force feedback joystick, FSUIPC cannot callibrate it unless I disable the force feedback from within FS9?
In which case perhaps I was a little hasty trying to calibrate it this morning only to find my joystick behaving worse than before.
Maybe I need to search the posts before reading the FSUIPC user guide again.
I did edit the FS9 CFG file and add in "STICK_SENSITIVITY_MODE=0" in the CONTROLS section.
Rgds
Nigel
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Good morning Pete
Thank you for your posts. I have mananged to register FSUIPC now.
I removed the "actigate.dll" and the "Actigate editor" file and that's what was causing the freeze or hang.
I will reinstall those files and see what happens although I imagine it should be alright now that FSUIPC has been registered.
I'm looking forward to callibrating my Logitech Force 3D Pro joystick properly as I've spent two years steering all my favorite airliners like a drunken pilot zig zagging down the runway and bumping into every other aircraft on the way not to mention ploughing across the greens.
Regards
Nigel
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Good evening Pete
I too have just found that FS9 freezes when trying to register. Up until now Fs9 has been working without any crashes or freezes so I'm a little bit puzzled as to why it does now that I bought the registered version.
I'm using windows xp with sp 3 and have removed the old FSUIPC modules and text file and re installed it.
Unfortunately it's too late for me now to stay up and sort it out, but I'll get going on it again in the morning.
Is there any other way of registering FSUIPC without starting FS9?
Best wishes
Nigel
fsuicp registation
in FSUIPC Support Pete Dowson Modules
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Windows 7 seems to be good at keeping the system running smoothly and reports any errors it finds.
I also use "Glary Utilities" and "Ccleaner" for keeping the system in good order.
Surely if there was a disk problem I would have had other problems somewhere.
Why would it be that only FS9 and related issues suffer from a hard drive problem.
I'm only reporting to you what I'm finding!
I'm away till Tuesday, so perhaps then I'll try approaching it from a different angle.......I'll install an addon, for example Ultimate Traffic (2005 is the version I have) and then see what happens..
One last thought, I've two copies of FS9....if I got disk 4 mixed up in them would that be a problem, I can't see how?
The reason I bought a second copy was because I thought the first was missing!
Thanks for your infinite patience!
\regards
Nigel