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The problem was poor connections - cleaned them and ran it for 6 hours with no problem. I dont know Morten, but you seem to be fixed with the idea there is only one kind of USB hub? There are un-powered hubs - which rely on power from the PC and if there is not enough the PC 'Power sheds' causing dropouts; hence the idea of a PCI card, but that still takes power from the PC power supply and motherboard. Plus all the connections are on the back of the PC so you have to keep heaving it out to get at them. The type I use (and a lot of others) is an indepentently powered USB Hub and is located very conveniently under the edge of the desk, so connections can be made/moved very easily. It demands very little power from the PC and provides pretty much purely data throgh a single cable to the PC. This has worked very well for me for about the last 15 years, so I have no intention of throwing money at something I do not think an advance. Its very kind of you to take time and trouble over this, but could we just leave it now please? Many thanks and good luck with whatever system you choose, Take care Mike

John is there any way I can 'track' when the yoke becomes disconnected? I ask because there was no response from yoke today in either sim or FSUIPC, so I unplugged it from the powered USB2 hub and plugged it into a USB2 slot on front of PC; instantly back in both sim and FSUIPC. So i plugged it back into the same slot on the powered USB2 hub and again working perfectly. Then carried out same flight as yesterday when sometime during the flight it dropped out. It worked perfectly. Am going to clean all USB slots to make sure its not something silly like a dirty connection. Thats the advantage of a powered hub under the edge of the desk - you dont have to heave the PC about to get at connections on the back! Mike

Roger thanks

Gents, now we are pretty sure the issue is outside FSUIPC4, would it make any difference if I was to revert the 'AutoAssignLetters' entry to 'No' ? Mike

thanks for your opinion.

Thanks Morten, interesting article, all my controllers are routed hrough a 7 port powered USB hub to avoid overloading the MB; only the mouse and keyboard dongles are in the board plus a single feed from the hub. Its worked quite hard since 2011, so probably needs a new one.

Thanks Gents, I think its the USB hub as after the 'loss of control' I minimized the sim; when I restored it one of the quadrants (B) was unresponsive; so I shut the sim and restarted it and all was back except the yoke = hub to me. Its powered and USB2 but like me its all pretty old so will try a new hub and report back. Many thanks, Mike

John, I just shut the sim down and restarted it, there is no response to yoke in either FSUIPC4 or the sim now; the sim was ok before when FSUIPC was not. Mike

All USB device boxes were unchecked as per Petes original suggestions; just checked again and still unchecked.

Sadly you may yet have to........ started flight EGMH-EGBB (KingAir 350) all controls functioning correctly during take off and initial climb through FSUIPC4; went into APilot for cruise and disconnected for descent. No response from yoke, but still got pedals & quadrants. Below are the files you asked for originally which show its seeing the yoke: FSUIPC4 INI [General] UpdatedByVersion=4974 History=BMLOU053DDMMZFINTF9UM InitDelayDevicesToo=No Annotate=Yes NewInterceptTextMenu=No UseSystemTime=Yes UseMidMouseBtn=Yes MouseWheelMove=No MouseWheelTrim=No MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1 JoystickTimeout=20 PollGFTQ6=Yes BlankDisplays=No FixControlAccel=No FixMachSpeedBug=No NewDeleteVehiclesForAES=No AutoScanDevices=Yes VisibilityOptions=No OneCloudLayer=No CloudTurbulence=No CloudIcing=No GenerateCirrus=No SuppressCloudTurbulence=No MaxIce=-4 MinIce=-4 UpperWindGusts=No SuppressWindTurbulence=No SuppressWindVariance=No WindTurbulence=No TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0 TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40 SuppressAllGusts=No MaxSurfaceWind=0 WindLimitLevel=200 WindDiscardLevel=400 WindAjustAltitude=No WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000 SmoothBySimTime=No WindSmoothing=No WindSmoothness=2 WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes PressureSmoothness=0 TemperatureSmoothness=0 DisconnTrimForAP=No ZeroElevForAPAlt=No ThrottleSyncAll=No WhiteMessages=No ShowPMcontrols=No SpoilerIncrement=512 MagicBattery=No RudderSpikeRemoval=No ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No AileronSpikeRemoval=No ReversedElevatorTrim=No ClockSync=No ClockSyncMins=5 ClearWeatherDynamics=No OwnWeatherChanges=Yes TimeForSelect=4 LoadFlightMenu=No LoadPlanMenu=No PauseAfterCrash=No BrakeReleaseThreshold=75 SaveDataWithFlights=No ZapSound=firework ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring UseProfiles=Yes EnableMouseLook=No DelayedMouseLookZoom=No WideLuaGlobals=Yes AxesWrongRange=No TCASid=Flight TCASrange=40,3 AxisCalibration=No DirectAxesToCalibs=No ShowMultilineWindow=Yes SuppressSingleline=No SuppressMultilineFS=No AxisIntercepts=No DontResetAxes=No ThreadAffinityMask=x0 LuaAffinityMask=x0 InitDelay=0 GetNearestAirports=Yes LogOptionProtect=Yes OOMcheck=Yes OOMcheckInterval=10 TimeForLuaClosing=2 WeatherReadFactor=2 WeatherRewriteSeconds=1 CustomWeatherModify=No SimConnectStallTime=1 LuaRerunDelay=66 Console=No ConsoleWindow=96,96,1215,743 FSVersionUsed="Microsoft Flight Simulator X",10.0.62615.0 SimConnectUsed=10.0.62615.0 [Traffic Limiter] AirportPreference=50 PlannedAirportsPreference=50 GroundPreference=50 NearerPreference=50 TargetFrameRate=0 TrafficLimit=0 [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=Yes 0=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 0.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000} 1=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals 1.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000} 2=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 2.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000} 3=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke 3.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000} A=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant A.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000} B=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals B.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000} C=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant C.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000} D=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke D.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000} [Axes] PollInterval=10 RangeRepeatRate=10 0=AX,256,D,18,19,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch2, PropPitch3 }- 1=AY,256,D,13,16,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture1, Mixture4 }- 2=AZ,256,D,14,15,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture2, Mixture3 }- 3=BX,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 4=BY,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 5=BR,256,D,3,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Rudder }- 6=CX,256,D,9,12,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1, Throttle4 }- 7=CY,256,D,10,11,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2, Throttle3 }- 8=CZ,256,D,17,20,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch1, PropPitch4 }- 9=DX,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 10=DY,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- [Buttons] PollInterval=25 ButtonRepeat=20,10 17=PC,0,C66079,0 -{GEAR_UP}- 18=PC,1,C66080,0 -{GEAR_DOWN}- 22=RA,6,C66011,0 -{PROP_PITCH2_DECR}- 25=RC,6,C65966,0 -{THROTTLE1_DECR}- 26=PD,5,C65758,0 -{FLAPS_INCR}- 27=PD,4,C65759,0 -{FLAPS_DECR}- 28=RD,2,C65607,0 -{ELEV_TRIM_DN}- 29=RD,3,C65615,0 -{ELEV_TRIM_UP}- 30=PC,2,C66293,0 -{TOGGLE_AVIONICS_MASTER}- 31=PC,4,C66391,0 -{TOGGLE_TAIL_HOOK_HANDLE}- 32=RA,2,C66330,0 -{DEC_COWL_FLAPS1}- 33=RA,4,C66332,0 -{DEC_COWL_FLAPS2}- 34=RA,3,C66329,0 -{INC_COWL_FLAPS1}- 35=RA,5,C66331,0 -{INC_COWL_FLAPS2}- 36=RC,7,C65971,0 -{THROTTLE2_DECR}- 37=RC,8,C66006,0 -{PROP_PITCH1_DECR}- 38=UC,6,C65967,0 -{THROTTLE1_CUT}- 39=UC,7,C65972,0 -{THROTTLE2_CUT}- [AutoSave] Next=1 Interval=60 Files=10 SaveOnGround=No AutoSaveEnabled=No [GPSout] GPSoutEnabled=No [GPSout2] GPSoutEnabled=No [WideServer] WideFSenabled=Yes [Sounds] Path=D:\Steam Games\steamapps\common\FSX\Sound\ Device1=Primary Sound Driver Device2=Speakers (Turtle Beach Recon 320) Device3=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) Device4=Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) Device5=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) [JoystickCalibration] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16384,-1639,-1639,16383 Elevator=-16287,0,0,16383 Rudder=-16383,0,0,16383 LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16 RightBrake=-16384,16383/16 Throttle1=-16384,-16384,-16384,16255/32 Throttle2=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Throttle3=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Throttle4=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Mixture1=-16384,-2601,-2601,16383/32 Mixture2=-16384,2304,2304,16383/32 Mixture3=-16384,2304,2304,16383/32 Mixture4=-16384,-2601,-2601,16383/32 PropPitch1=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 PropPitch2=-16254,0,0,16383/32 PropPitch3=-16254,0,0,16383/32 PropPitch4=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Spoilers=-16384,16383/16 Flaps=0,16380/16 [Profile.A6] 1=Virtavia A-6E Intruder 3 [Axes.A6] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0X,256,D,9,12,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1, Throttle4 }- 1=0Y,256,D,10,11,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2, Throttle3 }- 2=0Z,256,D,22,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Spoilers }- 3=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 4=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 5=2X,256,D,18,19,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch2, PropPitch3 }- 6=2Y,256,D,13,16,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture1, Mixture4 }- 7=2Z,256,D,14,15,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture2, Mixture3 }- 8=3X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 9=3Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- [Profile.CRJs] 1=Bombardier CRJ 700 Paint1 [Axes.CRJs] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0X,256,D,22,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Spoilers }- 1=0Z,256,D,9,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }- 2=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 3=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 4=2X,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 5=2Z,256,D,23,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Flaps }- 6=3X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 7=3Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- [Profile.Meteor T7] 1=Gloster Meteor T Mk 7.5 WL375 [Axes.Meteor T7] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0X,256,D,22,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Spoilers }- 1=0Y,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 2=0Z,256,D,9,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }- 3=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 4=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 5=2X,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 6=2Y,256,D,13,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture1 }- 7=2Z,256,D,14,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture2 }- 8=3X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 9=3Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- FSUIPC4 LOG ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.974 (24th February 2018) by Pete Dowson ********* Windows 10 Enterprise 64 Bit reported as Build 19042, Release ID: 2009 (OS 10.0) fsx.exe version = 10.0.62615.0 Reading options from "D:\Steam Games\steamapps\common\FSX\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" Running inside FSX Steam Edition on Windows 10 Module base=662E0000 User Name="Michael King" User Addr="kingm27@gmail.com" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired 0 System time = 30/09/2021 14:26:15 0 FLT path = "C:\Users\Mike King\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\" 0 ------ Module Version Check ------ 0 acontain.dll: 10.0.62615.0 0 api.dll: 10.0.62615.0 0 controls.dll: 10.0.62615.0 0 fs-traffic.dll: 10.0.62615.0 0 G3D.dll: 10.0.62615.0 0 language.dll: 10.0.62615.0 16 sim1.dll: 10.0.62615.0 16 visualfx.dll: 10.0.62615.0 16 weather.dll: 10.0.62615.0 16 window.dll: 10.0.62615.0 16 ---------------------------------- 47 Trying to connect to SimConnect Steam ... 94 FS path = "D:\Steam Games\steamapps\common\FSX\" 250 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan ----------------------- 250 Product= Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals 250 Manufacturer= Saitek 250 Vendor=06A3, Product=0763 (Version 1.0) 250 GUIDs returned for product: VID_06A3&PID_0763: 250 GUID= {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000} 250 Details: Btns=0, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R511,U0,V0,X127,Y127,Z0 250 Product= Saitek Pro Flight Yoke 266 Manufacturer= Saitek 266 Vendor=06A3, Product=0BAC (Version 3.3) 266 GUIDs returned for product: VID_06A3&PID_0BAC: 266 GUID= {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000} 266 Details: Btns=23, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U255,V255,X1023,Y1023,Z255 266 Product= Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 266 Manufacturer= Saitek 266 Vendor=06A3, Product=0C2D (Version 2.2) 266 GUIDs returned for product: VID_06A3&PID_0C2D: 266 GUID= {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000} 266 Details: Btns=9, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U0,V0,X255,Y255,Z255 266 GUID= {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000} 266 Details: Btns=9, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U0,V0,X255,Y255,Z255 266 Product= Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 266 Manufacturer= Saitek 266 Vendor=06A3, Product=0C2D (Version 2.2) 266 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 297 Device acquired for use: 297 Joystick ID = 1 (Registry okay) 297 1=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals 297 1.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000} 297 Device acquired for use: 297 Joystick ID = 3 (Registry okay) 297 3=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke 297 3.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000} 297 Device acquired for use: 297 Joystick ID = 0 (Registry okay) 297 0=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 297 0.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000} 297 Device acquired for use: 297 Joystick ID = 2 (Registry okay) 297 2=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 297 2.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000} 297 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 438 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 438 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 438 ------ Setting the hooks and direct calls into the simulator ------ 438 --- CONTROLS timer memory location obtained ok 438 --- SIM1 Frictions access gained 438 --- FS Controls Table located ok 438 --- Installed Mouse Macro hooks ok. 438 --- Wind smoothing fix is fully installed 438 --- SimConnect intercept for texts and menus option is off 438 --- All links checked okay 438 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 438 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 438 Trying to use SimConnect Steam 438 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 2750 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.62615.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.62615.0) 2750 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 2750 FSUIPC Menu entry added 2782 C:\Users\Mike King\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\Baron58 Birminghham.FLT 2782 D:\Steam Games\steamapps\common\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\beech_baron_58\beech_baron_58.air 8750 Weather Mode now = Custom 22079 User Aircraft ID 1 supplied, now being used 22079 Aircraft loaded: running normally now ... 106657 System time = 30/09/2021 14:28:02, Simulator time = 14:26:34 (13:26Z) 106672 Aircraft="Beech Baron 58 Paint1" 108813 Starting everything now ... 110157 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 119563 NWI weather clear actioned 119563 External weather discarded 119704 Weather Mode now = Theme 119704 Weather Mode now = Custom 189750 **** Restarting traffic scanning due to non-reception **** 253266 Weather Mode now = Global 253266 Weather Mode now = Theme 253266 Weather Mode now = Custom 271641 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 271750 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 271750 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 271766 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.62615.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.62615.0) 271766 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 271766 FSUIPC Menu entry added 271766 User Aircraft ID 1 supplied, now being used 271907 C:\Users\Mike King\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\Previous flight.FLT 275610 System time = 30/09/2021 14:30:51, Simulator time = 14:30:32 (13:30Z) 313594 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 38 secs = 24.9 fps 313594 Max AI traffic was 19 aircraft (Deleted 0) 394188 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 34 secs = 25.3 fps 394188 Max AI traffic was 19 aircraft (Deleted 0) 423172 D:\Steam Games\steamapps\common\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\Beech_King_Air_350\Beech_King_Air_350.air 423172 Planned flight from EGMH to EGBB 423172 C:\Users\Mike King\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Manston to Birmingham NWly wind.PLN 423172 c:\users\mike king\documents\flight simulator x files\Kingair TG Aviation.FLT 423547 Aircraft="Beech King Air 350 Paint1" 424063 Weather Mode now = Global 424063 Weather Mode now = Theme 424063 Weather Mode now = Custom 487125 Weather Mode now = Global 487125 Weather Mode now = Theme 487125 Weather Mode now = Custom 501610 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now ... **** 501719 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 501719 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 501735 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.62615.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.62615.0) 501735 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 501735 FSUIPC Menu entry added 501735 User Aircraft ID 1 supplied, now being used 501750 C:\Users\Mike King\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\Previous flight.FLT 501750 C:\Users\Mike King\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Manston to Birmingham NWly wind.PLN 501766 C:\Users\Mike King\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Manston to Birmingham NWly wind.PLN 502125 System time = 30/09/2021 14:34:37, Simulator time = 14:34:14 (13:34Z) 688110 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 186 secs = 38.0 fps 688110 Max AI traffic was 19 aircraft (Deleted 0) 732594 Planned flight from EGMH to EGBB 732594 C:\Users\Mike King\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Manston to Birmingham.PLN 2884125 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 2151 secs = 35.7 fps 2884125 Max AI traffic was 28 aircraft (Deleted 0) 3580000 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 677 secs = 31.0 fps 3580000 Max AI traffic was 28 aircraft (Deleted 0) 3639329 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 41 secs = 25.8 fps 3639329 Max AI traffic was 28 aircraft (Deleted 0) FSUIPC4 Joy Scan Good?, flags, VID, PID, Name, INIid, REGid, RegEntry, INIguid, REGguid, HIDguid, ValsOK?, ReadsOk? ,,, HIDscanning completed N, x00, x06A3, x0763, , -1, -1, 0, {NULL}, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, Y, N N, x00, x06A3, x0BAC, , -1, -1, 0, {NULL}, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, Y, N N, x00, x06A3, x0C2D, , -1, -1, 0, {NULL}, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, Y, N N, x00, x06A3, x0C2D, , -1, -1, 0, {NULL}, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, Y, N ,,, REGscanning completed N, x00, x06A3, x0763, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, -1, 1, 0, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, Y, Y N, x00, x06A3, x0BAC, Saitek Pro Flight Yoke, -1, 3, 0, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, Y, Y N, x00, x06A3, x0C2D, Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant, -1, 0, 0, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, Y, Y N, x00, x06A3, x0C2D, Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant, -1, 2, 1, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, Y, Y ,,, User settings imported N, x00, x06A3, x0763, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, 1, 1, 0, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, Y, Y N, x00, x06A3, x0BAC, Saitek Pro Flight Yoke, 3, 3, 0, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, Y, Y N, x00, x06A3, x0C2D, Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant, 0, 0, 0, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, Y, Y N, x00, x06A3, x0C2D, Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant, 2, 2, 1, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, Y, Y ,,, Values matched and decided Y, x1E, x06A3, x0763, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, 1, 1, 0, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, Y, Y Y, x1E, x06A3, x0BAC, Saitek Pro Flight Yoke, 3, 3, 0, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, Y, Y Y, x1E, x06A3, x0C2D, Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant, 0, 0, 0, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, Y, Y Y, x1E, x06A3, x0C2D, Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant, 2, 2, 1, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, Y, Y I had vatspy and Vatsim operating with FSXWX providing wx, though all these have been active for some time with FSUIPC4 happily. This dropping out only started about two months ago and has got worse. Pain. Sorry Mike

Peter my abject apologies - in iorder to try and get the numbers correct had copied the other numbers and ommitted to change 8003 to 8004. Very stupid case of RTFQ. Its working fine now. Thankyou for your help and once again apologies Regards, Mike

Actually I had added all 3 lines you gave me and saved the file. I then opened the sim and got no yoke response from FSUIPC, so re-opened the INI file copied it and sent it to you. I have re-entered the lines (the 2 that I 'missed') and have saved the INI - here is the section of saved INI befoe running the sim: [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=Yes 0=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 0.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000} 1=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals 1.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000} 2=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 2.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000} 3=Saitek Pro flight Yoke 3.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000} A=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant A.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000} B=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals B.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000} C=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant C.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000} I started the sim, opened the same flight, cleared the sim elevator/aileron axes, opened add-on/FSUIPC. Rescan greyed out and no response from elevator/aileron. Operated a lever and rescan lit up. pressed rescan until boxes clear, stil no repsonse from elevatro/aileron. This is the INI file with sim running. FSUIPC4 INI [General] UpdatedByVersion=4974 History=GQM3U494SH8D1HKPVHBWI InitDelayDevicesToo=No Annotate=Yes NewInterceptTextMenu=No UseSystemTime=Yes UseMidMouseBtn=Yes MouseWheelMove=No MouseWheelTrim=No MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1 JoystickTimeout=20 PollGFTQ6=Yes BlankDisplays=No FixControlAccel=No FixMachSpeedBug=No NewDeleteVehiclesForAES=No AutoScanDevices=Yes VisibilityOptions=No OneCloudLayer=No CloudTurbulence=No CloudIcing=No GenerateCirrus=No SuppressCloudTurbulence=No MaxIce=-4 MinIce=-4 UpperWindGusts=No SuppressWindTurbulence=No SuppressWindVariance=No WindTurbulence=No TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0 TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40 SuppressAllGusts=No MaxSurfaceWind=0 WindLimitLevel=200 WindDiscardLevel=400 WindAjustAltitude=No WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000 SmoothBySimTime=No WindSmoothing=No WindSmoothness=2 WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes PressureSmoothness=0 TemperatureSmoothness=0 DisconnTrimForAP=No ZeroElevForAPAlt=No ThrottleSyncAll=No WhiteMessages=No ShowPMcontrols=No SpoilerIncrement=512 MagicBattery=No RudderSpikeRemoval=No ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No AileronSpikeRemoval=No ReversedElevatorTrim=No ClockSync=No ClockSyncMins=5 ClearWeatherDynamics=No OwnWeatherChanges=Yes TimeForSelect=4 LoadFlightMenu=No LoadPlanMenu=No PauseAfterCrash=No BrakeReleaseThreshold=75 SaveDataWithFlights=No ZapSound=firework ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring UseProfiles=Yes EnableMouseLook=No DelayedMouseLookZoom=No WideLuaGlobals=Yes AxesWrongRange=No TCASid=Flight TCASrange=40,3 AxisCalibration=No DirectAxesToCalibs=No ShowMultilineWindow=Yes SuppressSingleline=No SuppressMultilineFS=No AxisIntercepts=No DontResetAxes=No ThreadAffinityMask=x0 LuaAffinityMask=x0 InitDelay=0 GetNearestAirports=Yes LogOptionProtect=Yes OOMcheck=Yes OOMcheckInterval=10 TimeForLuaClosing=2 WeatherReadFactor=2 WeatherRewriteSeconds=1 CustomWeatherModify=No SimConnectStallTime=1 LuaRerunDelay=66 Console=No ConsoleWindow=96,96,1215,743 FSVersionUsed="Microsoft Flight Simulator X",10.0.62615.0 SimConnectUsed=10.0.62615.0 [Traffic Limiter] AirportPreference=50 PlannedAirportsPreference=50 GroundPreference=50 NearerPreference=50 TargetFrameRate=0 TrafficLimit=0 [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=Yes 0=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 0.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000} 1=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals 1.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000} 2=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 2.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000} A=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant A.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000} B=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals B.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000} C=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant C.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000} [Axes] PollInterval=10 RangeRepeatRate=10 0=AX,256,D,18,19,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch2, PropPitch3 }- 1=AY,256,D,13,16,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture1, Mixture4 }- 2=AZ,256,D,14,15,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture2, Mixture3 }- 3=BX,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 4=BY,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 5=BR,256,D,3,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Rudder }- 6=CX,256,D,9,12,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1, Throttle4 }- 7=CY,256,D,10,11,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2, Throttle3 }- 8=CZ,256,D,17,20,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch1, PropPitch4 }- 9=3X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 10=3Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- [Buttons] PollInterval=25 ButtonRepeat=20,10 17=PC,0,C66079,0 -{GEAR_UP}- 18=PC,1,C66080,0 -{GEAR_DOWN}- 22=RA,6,C66011,0 -{PROP_PITCH2_DECR}- 25=RC,6,C65966,0 -{THROTTLE1_DECR}- 26=R3,5,C65758,0 -{FLAPS_INCR}- 27=R3,4,C65759,0 -{FLAPS_DECR}- 28=R3,2,C65607,0 -{ELEV_TRIM_DN}- 29=R3,3,C65615,0 -{ELEV_TRIM_UP}- 30=PC,2,C66293,0 -{TOGGLE_AVIONICS_MASTER}- 31=PC,4,C66391,0 -{TOGGLE_TAIL_HOOK_HANDLE}- 32=RA,2,C66330,0 -{DEC_COWL_FLAPS1}- 33=RA,4,C66332,0 -{DEC_COWL_FLAPS2}- 34=RA,3,C66329,0 -{INC_COWL_FLAPS1}- 35=RA,5,C66331,0 -{INC_COWL_FLAPS2}- 36=RC,7,C65971,0 -{THROTTLE2_DECR}- 37=RC,8,C66006,0 -{PROP_PITCH1_DECR}- 38=UC,6,C65967,0 -{THROTTLE1_CUT}- 39=UC,7,C65972,0 -{THROTTLE2_CUT}- [AutoSave] Next=1 Interval=60 Files=10 SaveOnGround=No AutoSaveEnabled=No [GPSout] GPSoutEnabled=No [GPSout2] GPSoutEnabled=No [WideServer] WideFSenabled=Yes [Sounds] Path=D:\Steam Games\steamapps\common\FSX\Sound\ Device1=Primary Sound Driver Device2=Speakers (Turtle Beach Recon 320) Device3=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) Device4=Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) Device5=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) [JoystickCalibration] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380 Elevator=-16384,0,0,16159 Rudder=-16383,0,0,16383 LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16 RightBrake=-16384,16383/16 Throttle1=-16384,-16384,-16384,16255/32 Throttle2=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Throttle3=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Throttle4=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Mixture1=-16384,-2601,-2601,16383/32 Mixture2=-16384,2304,2304,16383/32 Mixture3=-16384,2304,2304,16383/32 Mixture4=-16384,-2601,-2601,16383/32 PropPitch1=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 PropPitch2=-16254,0,0,16383/32 PropPitch3=-16254,0,0,16383/32 PropPitch4=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Spoilers=-16384,16383/16 Flaps=0,16380/16 [Profile.A6] 1=Virtavia A-6E Intruder 3 [Axes.A6] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0X,256,D,9,12,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1, Throttle4 }- 1=0Y,256,D,10,11,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2, Throttle3 }- 2=0Z,256,D,22,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Spoilers }- 3=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 4=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 5=2X,256,D,18,19,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch2, PropPitch3 }- 6=2Y,256,D,13,16,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture1, Mixture4 }- 7=2Z,256,D,14,15,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture2, Mixture3 }- 8=3X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 9=3Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- [Profile.CRJs] 1=Bombardier CRJ 700 Paint1 [Axes.CRJs] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0X,256,D,22,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Spoilers }- 1=0Z,256,D,9,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }- 2=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 3=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 4=2X,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 5=2Z,256,D,23,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Flaps }- 6=3X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 7=3Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- [Profile.Meteor T7] 1=Gloster Meteor T Mk 7.5 WL375 [Axes.Meteor T7] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0X,256,D,22,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Spoilers }- 1=0Y,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 2=0Z,256,D,9,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }- 3=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 4=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 5=2X,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 6=2Y,256,D,13,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture1 }- 7=2Z,256,D,14,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture2 }- 8=3X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 9=3Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- I have no clue, but you did mention registry issue? Regards, Mike

Yes I do have two(2) quadrants + pedals+yoke. I modified the INI as you suggest and the yoke is still not seen; simply letters as well. I am not aware of any Windows crash, but FSX does not like the 3rd Graphics GPU (Nvidia750GTX) and any attempt to shift an FSX window or guage onto either of those monitors caused a CTD with a g2.dll fault on Appcrashview. This may be irrelevant, but best you know. Else the sim works perfectly. the INI now looks like: FSUIPC4 INI [General] UpdatedByVersion=4974 History=DUUV28DCKLKMLGTX3PJ4J InitDelayDevicesToo=No Annotate=Yes NewInterceptTextMenu=No UseSystemTime=Yes UseMidMouseBtn=Yes MouseWheelMove=No MouseWheelTrim=No MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1 JoystickTimeout=20 PollGFTQ6=Yes BlankDisplays=No FixControlAccel=No FixMachSpeedBug=No NewDeleteVehiclesForAES=No AutoScanDevices=Yes VisibilityOptions=No OneCloudLayer=No CloudTurbulence=No CloudIcing=No GenerateCirrus=No SuppressCloudTurbulence=No MaxIce=-4 MinIce=-4 UpperWindGusts=No SuppressWindTurbulence=No SuppressWindVariance=No WindTurbulence=No TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0 TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40 SuppressAllGusts=No MaxSurfaceWind=0 WindLimitLevel=200 WindDiscardLevel=400 WindAjustAltitude=No WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000 SmoothBySimTime=No WindSmoothing=No WindSmoothness=2 WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes PressureSmoothness=0 TemperatureSmoothness=0 DisconnTrimForAP=No ZeroElevForAPAlt=No ThrottleSyncAll=No WhiteMessages=No ShowPMcontrols=No SpoilerIncrement=512 MagicBattery=No RudderSpikeRemoval=No ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No AileronSpikeRemoval=No ReversedElevatorTrim=No ClockSync=No ClockSyncMins=5 ClearWeatherDynamics=No OwnWeatherChanges=Yes TimeForSelect=4 LoadFlightMenu=No LoadPlanMenu=No PauseAfterCrash=No BrakeReleaseThreshold=75 SaveDataWithFlights=No ZapSound=firework ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring UseProfiles=Yes EnableMouseLook=No DelayedMouseLookZoom=No WideLuaGlobals=Yes AxesWrongRange=No TCASid=Flight TCASrange=40,3 AxisCalibration=No DirectAxesToCalibs=No ShowMultilineWindow=Yes SuppressSingleline=No SuppressMultilineFS=No AxisIntercepts=No DontResetAxes=No ThreadAffinityMask=x0 LuaAffinityMask=x0 InitDelay=0 GetNearestAirports=Yes LogOptionProtect=Yes OOMcheck=Yes OOMcheckInterval=10 TimeForLuaClosing=2 WeatherReadFactor=2 WeatherRewriteSeconds=1 CustomWeatherModify=No SimConnectStallTime=1 LuaRerunDelay=66 Console=No ConsoleWindow=96,96,1215,743 FSVersionUsed="Microsoft Flight Simulator X",10.0.62615.0 SimConnectUsed=10.0.62615.0 [Traffic Limiter] AirportPreference=50 PlannedAirportsPreference=50 GroundPreference=50 NearerPreference=50 TargetFrameRate=0 TrafficLimit=0 [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=Yes 0=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 0.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000} 1=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals 1.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000} 2=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 2.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000} A=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant A.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000} B=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals B.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000} C=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant C.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000} [Axes] PollInterval=10 RangeRepeatRate=10 0=AX,256,D,18,19,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch2, PropPitch3 }- 1=AY,256,D,13,16,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture1, Mixture4 }- 2=AZ,256,D,14,15,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture2, Mixture3 }- 3=BX,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 4=BY,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 5=BR,256,D,3,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Rudder }- 6=CX,256,D,9,12,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1, Throttle4 }- 7=CY,256,D,10,11,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2, Throttle3 }- 8=CZ,256,D,17,20,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch1, PropPitch4 }- 9=3X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 10=3Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- [Buttons] PollInterval=25 ButtonRepeat=20,10 17=PC,0,C66079,0 -{GEAR_UP}- 18=PC,1,C66080,0 -{GEAR_DOWN}- 22=RA,6,C66011,0 -{PROP_PITCH2_DECR}- 25=RC,6,C65966,0 -{THROTTLE1_DECR}- 26=R3,5,C65758,0 -{FLAPS_INCR}- 27=R3,4,C65759,0 -{FLAPS_DECR}- 28=R3,2,C65607,0 -{ELEV_TRIM_DN}- 29=R3,3,C65615,0 -{ELEV_TRIM_UP}- 30=PC,2,C66293,0 -{TOGGLE_AVIONICS_MASTER}- 31=PC,4,C66391,0 -{TOGGLE_TAIL_HOOK_HANDLE}- 32=RA,2,C66330,0 -{DEC_COWL_FLAPS1}- 33=RA,4,C66332,0 -{DEC_COWL_FLAPS2}- 34=RA,3,C66329,0 -{INC_COWL_FLAPS1}- 35=RA,5,C66331,0 -{INC_COWL_FLAPS2}- 36=RC,7,C65971,0 -{THROTTLE2_DECR}- 37=RC,8,C66006,0 -{PROP_PITCH1_DECR}- 38=UC,6,C65967,0 -{THROTTLE1_CUT}- 39=UC,7,C65972,0 -{THROTTLE2_CUT}- [AutoSave] Next=1 Interval=60 Files=10 SaveOnGround=No AutoSaveEnabled=No [GPSout] GPSoutEnabled=No [GPSout2] GPSoutEnabled=No [WideServer] WideFSenabled=Yes [Sounds] Path=D:\Steam Games\steamapps\common\FSX\Sound\ Device1=Primary Sound Driver Device2=Speakers (Turtle Beach Recon 320) Device3=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) Device4=Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) Device5=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) [JoystickCalibration] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380 Elevator=-16384,0,0,16159 Rudder=-16383,0,0,16383 LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16 RightBrake=-16384,16383/16 Throttle1=-16384,-16384,-16384,16255/32 Throttle2=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Throttle3=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Throttle4=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Mixture1=-16384,-2601,-2601,16383/32 Mixture2=-16384,2304,2304,16383/32 Mixture3=-16384,2304,2304,16383/32 Mixture4=-16384,-2601,-2601,16383/32 PropPitch1=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 PropPitch2=-16254,0,0,16383/32 PropPitch3=-16254,0,0,16383/32 PropPitch4=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Spoilers=-16384,16383/16 Flaps=0,16380/16 [Profile.A6] 1=Virtavia A-6E Intruder 3 [Axes.A6] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0X,256,D,9,12,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1, Throttle4 }- 1=0Y,256,D,10,11,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2, Throttle3 }- 2=0Z,256,D,22,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Spoilers }- 3=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 4=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 5=2X,256,D,18,19,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch2, PropPitch3 }- 6=2Y,256,D,13,16,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture1, Mixture4 }- 7=2Z,256,D,14,15,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture2, Mixture3 }- 8=3X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 9=3Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- [Profile.CRJs] 1=Bombardier CRJ 700 Paint1 [Axes.CRJs] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0X,256,D,22,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Spoilers }- 1=0Z,256,D,9,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }- 2=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 3=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 4=2X,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 5=2Z,256,D,23,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Flaps }- 6=3X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 7=3Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- [Profile.Meteor T7] 1=Gloster Meteor T Mk 7.5 WL375 [Axes.Meteor T7] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0X,256,D,22,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Spoilers }- 1=0Y,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 2=0Z,256,D,9,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }- 3=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 4=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 5=2X,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 6=2Y,256,D,13,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture1 }- 7=2Z,256,D,14,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture2 }- 8=3X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 9=3Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- Yoke still only workd through sim control and neither Asix Assignment or Calibration respond to yoke movement - all Joy# are now letters, formerly were numbers. Mike

Thought I had already selected show all, but needed doing again; FSUIPC INI [General] UpdatedByVersion=4974 History=W11N7FKJCSETUW46CYSDK InitDelayDevicesToo=No Annotate=Yes NewInterceptTextMenu=No UseSystemTime=No UseMidMouseBtn=Yes MouseWheelMove=No MouseWheelTrim=No MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1 JoystickTimeout=20 PollGFTQ6=Yes BlankDisplays=No FixControlAccel=No FixMachSpeedBug=No NewDeleteVehiclesForAES=No AutoScanDevices=Yes VisibilityOptions=No OneCloudLayer=No CloudTurbulence=No CloudIcing=No GenerateCirrus=No SuppressCloudTurbulence=No MaxIce=-4 MinIce=-4 UpperWindGusts=No SuppressWindTurbulence=No SuppressWindVariance=No WindTurbulence=No TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0 TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40 SuppressAllGusts=No MaxSurfaceWind=0 WindLimitLevel=200 WindDiscardLevel=400 WindAjustAltitude=No WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000 SmoothBySimTime=No WindSmoothing=No WindSmoothness=2 WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes PressureSmoothness=0 TemperatureSmoothness=0 DisconnTrimForAP=No ZeroElevForAPAlt=No ThrottleSyncAll=No WhiteMessages=No ShowPMcontrols=No SpoilerIncrement=512 MagicBattery=No RudderSpikeRemoval=No ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No AileronSpikeRemoval=No ReversedElevatorTrim=No ClockSync=No ClockSyncMins=5 ClearWeatherDynamics=No OwnWeatherChanges=No TimeForSelect=4 LoadFlightMenu=No LoadPlanMenu=No PauseAfterCrash=No BrakeReleaseThreshold=75 SaveDataWithFlights=No ZapSound=firework ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring UseProfiles=Yes EnableMouseLook=No DelayedMouseLookZoom=No WideLuaGlobals=Yes AxesWrongRange=No TCASid=Flight TCASrange=40,3 AxisCalibration=No DirectAxesToCalibs=No ShowMultilineWindow=Yes SuppressSingleline=No SuppressMultilineFS=No AxisIntercepts=No DontResetAxes=No ThreadAffinityMask=x0 LuaAffinityMask=x0 InitDelay=0 GetNearestAirports=Yes LogOptionProtect=Yes OOMcheck=Yes OOMcheckInterval=10 TimeForLuaClosing=2 WeatherReadFactor=2 WeatherRewriteSeconds=1 CustomWeatherModify=No SimConnectStallTime=1 LuaRerunDelay=66 Console=No FSVersionUsed="Microsoft Flight Simulator X",10.0.62615.0 SimConnectUsed=10.0.62615.0 ConsoleWindow=96,96,1215,743 [Traffic Limiter] AirportPreference=50 PlannedAirportsPreference=50 GroundPreference=50 NearerPreference=50 TargetFrameRate=0 TrafficLimit=0 [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=No 0=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 0.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000} 1=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals 1.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000} 2=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 2.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000} [Axes] PollInterval=10 RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0X,256,D,18,19,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch2, PropPitch3 }- 1=0Y,256,D,13,16,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture1, Mixture4 }- 2=0Z,256,D,14,15,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture2, Mixture3 }- 3=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 4=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 5=1R,256,D,3,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Rudder }- 6=2X,256,D,9,12,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1, Throttle4 }- 7=2Y,256,D,10,11,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2, Throttle3 }- 8=2Z,256,D,17,20,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch1, PropPitch4 }- 9=3X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 10=3Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- [Buttons] PollInterval=25 ButtonRepeat=20,10 17=P2,0,C66079,0 -{GEAR_UP}- 18=P2,1,C66080,0 -{GEAR_DOWN}- 22=R0,6,C66011,0 -{PROP_PITCH2_DECR}- 25=R2,6,C65966,0 -{THROTTLE1_DECR}- 26=R3,5,C65758,0 -{FLAPS_INCR}- 27=R3,4,C65759,0 -{FLAPS_DECR}- 28=R3,2,C65607,0 -{ELEV_TRIM_DN}- 29=R3,3,C65615,0 -{ELEV_TRIM_UP}- 30=P2,2,C66293,0 -{TOGGLE_AVIONICS_MASTER}- 31=P2,4,C66391,0 -{TOGGLE_TAIL_HOOK_HANDLE}- 32=R0,2,C66330,0 -{DEC_COWL_FLAPS1}- 33=P0,4,C66332,0 -{DEC_COWL_FLAPS2}- 34=R0,3,C66329,0 -{INC_COWL_FLAPS1}- 35=R0,5,C66331,0 -{INC_COWL_FLAPS2}- 36=R2,7,C65971,0 -{THROTTLE2_DECR}- 37=R2,8,C66006,0 -{PROP_PITCH1_DECR}- 38=U2,6,C65967,0 -{THROTTLE1_CUT}- 39=U2,7,C65972,0 -{THROTTLE2_CUT}- [AutoSave] Next=1 Interval=60 Files=10 SaveOnGround=No AutoSaveEnabled=No [GPSout] GPSoutEnabled=No [GPSout2] GPSoutEnabled=No [WideServer] WideFSenabled=Yes [Sounds] Path=D:\Steam Games\steamapps\common\FSX\Sound\ Device1=Primary Sound Driver Device2=Speakers (Turtle Beach Recon 320) Device3=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) Device4=Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) Device5=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) [JoystickCalibration] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380 Elevator=-16384,0,0,16159 Rudder=-16383,0,0,16383 LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16 RightBrake=-16384,16383/16 Throttle1=-16384,-16384,-16384,16255/32 Throttle2=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Throttle3=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Throttle4=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Mixture1=-16384,-2601,-2601,16383/32 Mixture2=-16384,2304,2304,16383/32 Mixture3=-16384,2304,2304,16383/32 Mixture4=-16384,-2601,-2601,16383/32 PropPitch1=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 PropPitch2=-16254,0,0,16383/32 PropPitch3=-16254,0,0,16383/32 PropPitch4=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/32 Spoilers=-16384,16383/16 Flaps=0,16380/16 [Profile.A6] 1=Virtavia A-6E Intruder 3 [Axes.A6] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0X,256,D,9,12,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1, Throttle4 }- 1=0Y,256,D,10,11,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2, Throttle3 }- 2=0Z,256,D,22,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Spoilers }- 3=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 4=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 5=2X,256,D,18,19,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch2, PropPitch3 }- 6=2Y,256,D,13,16,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture1, Mixture4 }- 7=2Z,256,D,14,15,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture2, Mixture3 }- 8=3X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 9=3Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- [Profile.CRJs] 1=Bombardier CRJ 700 Paint1 [Axes.CRJs] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0X,256,D,22,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Spoilers }- 1=0Z,256,D,9,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }- 2=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 3=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 4=2X,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 5=2Z,256,D,23,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Flaps }- 6=3X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 7=3Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- [Profile.Meteor T7] 1=Gloster Meteor T Mk 7.5 WL375 [Axes.Meteor T7] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0X,256,D,22,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Spoilers }- 1=0Y,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 2=0Z,256,D,9,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }- 3=1X,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 4=1Y,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 5=2X,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 6=2Y,256,D,13,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture1 }- 7=2Z,256,D,14,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture2 }- 8=3X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 9=3Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- FSUIPC4 Log ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.974 (24th February 2018) by Pete Dowson ********* Windows 10 Enterprise 64 Bit reported as Build 19042, Release ID: 2009 (OS 10.0) fsx.exe version = 10.0.62615.0 Reading options from "D:\Steam Games\steamapps\common\FSX\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" Running inside FSX Steam Edition on Windows 10 Module base=666E0000 User Name="Michael King" User Addr="kingm27@gmail.com" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired 15 System time = 26/09/2021 10:56:08 15 FLT path = "C:\Users\Mike King\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\" 15 ------ Module Version Check ------ 15 acontain.dll: 10.0.62615.0 15 api.dll: 10.0.62615.0 15 controls.dll: 10.0.62615.0 15 fs-traffic.dll: 10.0.62615.0 31 G3D.dll: 10.0.62615.0 31 language.dll: 10.0.62615.0 31 sim1.dll: 10.0.62615.0 31 visualfx.dll: 10.0.62615.0 31 weather.dll: 10.0.62615.0 31 window.dll: 10.0.62615.0 31 ---------------------------------- 62 Trying to connect to SimConnect Steam ... 109 FS path = "D:\Steam Games\steamapps\common\FSX\" 234 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan ----------------------- 281 Product= Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals 281 Manufacturer= Saitek 281 Vendor=06A3, Product=0763 (Version 1.0) 281 GUIDs returned for product: VID_06A3&PID_0763: 281 GUID= {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000} 281 Details: Btns=0, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R511,U0,V0,X127,Y127,Z0 281 Product= Saitek Pro Flight Yoke 281 Manufacturer= Saitek 281 Vendor=06A3, Product=0BAC (Version 3.3) 281 GUIDs returned for product: VID_06A3&PID_0BAC: 281 GUID= {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000} 281 Details: Btns=23, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U255,V255,X1023,Y1023,Z255 281 Product= Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 281 Manufacturer= Saitek 281 Vendor=06A3, Product=0C2D (Version 2.2) 281 GUIDs returned for product: VID_06A3&PID_0C2D: 281 GUID= {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000} 281 Details: Btns=9, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U0,V0,X255,Y255,Z255 281 GUID= {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000} 281 Details: Btns=9, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R0,U0,V0,X255,Y255,Z255 281 Product= Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 297 Manufacturer= Saitek 297 Vendor=06A3, Product=0C2D (Version 2.2) 297 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 297 Device acquired for use: 297 Joystick ID = 1 (Registry okay) 297 1=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals 297 1.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000} 312 Device acquired for use: 312 Joystick ID = 0 (Registry okay) 312 0=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke 312 0.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000} 312 Device acquired for use: 312 Joystick ID = 2 (Registry okay) 312 2=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 312 2.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000} 312 Device acquired for use: 312 Joystick ID = 0 (Registry fixed) 312 0=Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant 312 0.GUID={7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000} 312 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 343 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 343 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 343 ------ Setting the hooks and direct calls into the simulator ------ 343 --- CONTROLS timer memory location obtained ok 343 --- SIM1 Frictions access gained 343 --- FS Controls Table located ok 343 --- Installed Mouse Macro hooks ok. 343 --- Wind smoothing fix is fully installed 343 --- SimConnect intercept for texts and menus option is off 343 --- All links checked okay 343 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 343 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 343 Trying to use SimConnect Steam 343 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 4250 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.62615.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.62615.0) 4250 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 4250 FSUIPC Menu entry added 4265 C:\Users\Mike King\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\Baron58 Birminghham.FLT 4265 D:\Steam Games\steamapps\common\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\beech_baron_58\beech_baron_58.air 9437 Weather Mode now = Custom 22218 User Aircraft ID 1 supplied, now being used 22218 Aircraft loaded: running normally now ... 136297 System time = 26/09/2021 10:58:24, Simulator time = 10:26:34 (09:26Z) 136312 Aircraft="Beech Baron 58 Paint1" 140265 Starting everything now ... 141422 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 826937 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 422 secs = 17.9 fps 826937 Max AI traffic was 18 aircraft (Deleted 0) 873359 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 26 secs = 18.4 fps 873359 Max AI traffic was 18 aircraft (Deleted 0) 2546390 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 1630 secs = 18.0 fps 2546390 Max AI traffic was 19 aircraft (Deleted 0) 2548281 === Closing session: waiting for DLLStop to be called ... 2551422 === DLLStop called ... 2551422 === Closing external processes we started ... 2552437 === About to kill any Lua plug-ins still running ... 2552609 === Closing global Lua thread 2553609 === About to kill my timers ... 2553828 === Restoring window procs ... 2553828 === Unloading libraries ... 2553828 === stopping other threads ... 2553828 === ... Memory checking ... 2553828 === ... Button scanning ... 2553937 === ... Axis scanning ... 2554031 === Releasing joystick devices ... 2554031 === Freeing macro memory 2554031 === Removing any offset overrides 2554031 === Clearing any displays left 2554031 === NOTE: not calling SimConnect_Close ... 2554031 === AI slots deleted! 2554031 === Freeing button memory ... 2554031 === Closing my Windows ... 2554031 === Freeing FS libraries ... 2555047 === Closing devices ... 2555047 === Closing the Log ... Bye Bye! ... 2555047 System time = 26/09/2021 11:38:43, Simulator time = 11:01:16 (10:01Z) 2555047 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Minimum frame rate was 11.5 fps, Maximum was 28.4 fps Minimum available memory recorded was 1555Mb Average frame rate for running time of 2092 secs = 18.1 fps Maximum AI traffic for session was 19 aircraft Memory managed: 968 Allocs, 967 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed *********** FSUIPC4 Joyscan Good?, flags, VID, PID, Name, INIid, REGid, RegEntry, INIguid, REGguid, HIDguid, ValsOK?, ReadsOk? ,,, HIDscanning completed N, x00, x06A3, x0763, , -1, -1, 0, {NULL}, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, Y, N N, x00, x06A3, x0BAC, , -1, -1, 0, {NULL}, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, Y, N N, x00, x06A3, x0C2D, , -1, -1, 0, {NULL}, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, Y, N N, x00, x06A3, x0C2D, , -1, -1, 0, {NULL}, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, Y, N ,,, REGscanning completed N, x00, x06A3, x0763, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, -1, 1, 0, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, Y, Y N, x00, x06A3, x0BAC, Saitek Pro Flight Yoke, -1, 0, 0, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, Y, Y N, x00, x06A3, x0C2D, Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant, -1, 2, 1, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, Y, Y N, x00, x06A3, x0C2D, Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant, -1, 3, 0, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, Y, Y ,,, User settings imported N, x00, x06A3, x0763, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, 1, 1, 0, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, Y, Y N, x00, x06A3, x0BAC, Saitek Pro Flight Yoke, -1, 0, 0, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, Y, Y N, x00, x06A3, x0C2D, Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant, 2, 2, 1, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, Y, Y N, x00, x06A3, x0C2D, Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant, 0, 3, 0, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, Y, Y ,,, Values matched and decided Y, x1E, x06A3, x0763, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals, 1, 1, 0, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8002-444553540000}, Y, Y Y, x1E, x06A3, x0BAC, Saitek Pro Flight Yoke, 0, 0, 0, {NULL}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8004-444553540000}, Y, Y Y, x1E, x06A3, x0C2D, Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant, 2, 2, 1, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8003-444553540000}, Y, Y Y, x1E, x06A3, x0C2D, Saitek Pro Flight Quadrant, 0, 0, 0, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, {7134F060-6779-11EA-8001-444553540000}, Y, Y Hope this is what you need Mike

The pattern is; From 'Free Flight' page load flight Check if ailerons/elevator working, not Open FSUIPC from modules; axis assignment tab; rescan tab greyed out; try yoke - nothing Try any axis or button on either quadrant or pedals; rescan lights up and axis/button works Go to sim 'controls' axis; 'Yoke'; blank because I deselected to use FSUIPC; either select 'change assignment or reset defaults and yoke section populates and all axes/buttons on yoke work. I am not up to speed with mesing with files in FSUIPC - have found FSUIPC.joy.scan and have attached cannot see suffix INI or LOG in the modules section, but have attached what looks like a config file - if you can point me in the right direction would appreciate it. While writing I saved a copy of each file dragged them to attach, but am getting upload fail warning on both - only 10kb total? Mike