Howdy Peter,
Hope to clear something up with your help. I recently started having a problem with my ERJ that many others have the same problems with per forum posts at feelthere. This problem has been ongoing with no resolution. Some do not experience the problem so I decided to spend some time to try and sort this out. I received a copy of a discussion you had with a fellow via the feelthere forum but I have some information to add to this to see if you can help further....
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Let me recap what he posted to me...
Hi Iven,
Sound's like you are on the correct path. I posted in the Peter Dowson forum about this problem and no one had mentioned it to him before. There was quit a bit of problem's with FSUIPC and the FADEC throttle's the ERJ uses and the way FSUIPC handle's throttle's assignement and calibration, however no one else had reported this spoiler problem to Pete. Here is his answer/response to my question.
sulu600 wrote:
Hi Peter,
Hate to open old topic's and wound's between you and this add-on vendor, however, has anyone mentioned a problem with the complex way the ERJ deploys it ground spoiler/air brakes and a conflict with FSUIPC?
You said:
There's no wounds that I know of (???)and there's really there cannot be any "conflict" with anything in FSUIPC if you aren't trying to use any conflicting options therein. And to answer your question, no, no one has mentioned any such thing. Sorry.
He said:
I and several other's who have registered versions of FSUIPC are having trouble with the speed brake's deploying on the ground at speed's above 25 knot's and the throttle's are moved to idle. Once that occurs, the speed brake's deploy (thinking you have just landed and have retarded the throttles) and will not reset. Their cure is to "Remove" the FSUIPC.dll from the module's folder to fix the problem.
You said:
FSUIPC does not touch the spoiler unless you tell it to, so quite honestly it cannot be anything to do with FSUIPC as such. If removing FSUIPC "fixes" it it can only be because either something else you've set FSUIPC to do is doing it, or another add-in or add-on is operating this through FSUIPC's facilities.
FSUIPC is not an "active" component, it only does what it is asked to do. Delete your FSUIPC.INI file so only default options are applied (none of which are related to throttles, axes or spoilers), and check the FSUIPC Log to see what other programs or modules are using it. Eliminate those one by one to find the culprit.
You seem to imply that you only get this with registration of FSUIPC -- and since all user-registration really does is allow you to use more options, it is I would have thought pretty obvious that it is most likely to be related to something you have set.
He said:
I do use FSUIPC to assign one of the axis on my CH Yoke to spoiler, however even removing this has no effect on the problem.
You said:
FSUIPC does NOT allow you to make any axis assignments. FSUIPC's joystick facilities operate on FS controls, there are no (repeat NO) axis assignments within FSUIPC and never have been. You must be making your spoiler axis assignment in FS, and that is where you have to delete it -- there's no way to make nor delete any such thing in FSUIPC.
Regards,
Pete
He said to me:
Hope this help's trouble shooting the problem and I am also getting serious about finding the problem here as well...will keep everyone informed.
Steve Park
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Okay, I recently found also that if I renamed the FSUIPC.dll that the problem would disappear but went a few extra steps to sort this out. I have a HOTAS Cougar and I too assign an axis to control the speedbrakes on my various aircraft. I do use the axis calibrations under the Joystick tab in FSUIPC. On those aircraft everything works great, it was only the ERJ giving me a fit. So I started playing around and found out something by putting together some things told me by the feelthere folks and further from your comments above...
You told Steve above that FSUIPC doesn't assign any axis (I understand this) but there is under the Joystick tab pages to calibrate the various axis' on a joystick and throttle and such. So I figure some sort of interaction was happening there? I think many people have gone in and disabled various settings trying to isolate the problem with no luck but this failed because of something further I stumbled upon. I did the same thing with the same results, the speedbrakes wouldn't work after disabling certain FSUIPC settings.
The feelthere folks stated that the logic in the ERJ worked primarily on/off (fully deployed or fully retracted) and not on graduated axis control. So I concentrated on this.
While messing around with the settings in FSUIPC the ERJ speedbrakes started working but I didn't know how or what I had done so I set out to duplicate this. I went back in and started messing around again and sure enough got it to screw up again, that was easy. Now the trick was to get it working again...what fun :D
The trick I found was in restarting the flight simulator AFTER making the changes in FSUIPC. The setting in FSUIPC that seems to be in conflict is the speedbrake axis calibration. Click reset (for the speedbrake axis calibration), exit FSUIPC and flight simulator then restart and all was back to normal.
I don't know if you can look at anything here or if the folks at feelthere will talk to you about this (I did ask them to coordinate with you on these findings) but I can imagine if this problem could be fixed once and for all there would be some mighty happy ERJ pilots around...
Regards,
Iven