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Hi all,

I posted this in a couple of other places already but here it is again, a list of freeware landclass files that I use for the Alps and other parts of Europe:

Germany - Frank Bart - http://www.germany-vfr.de/Landscape/LScdclass.htm (you don't need to download the update on the other page; both files are actually the same)

Austria - Frank Barth - austrialc.zip (Avsim)

Switzerland - Ernst Bosshard - ebch3tot.zip (Avsim; if you're using UT-Europe install the simple version with EBCHE.bgl and EBCHW.bgl only)

France - Arnaud Clere - http://www.francesim.com/Articles.aspx?243&Cpt=-1 or http://arnaud.clere.free.fr/wikini/wakklassFrance

Italy - "Landpack" - http://www.aliditalia.com/itlndpkdownload.html

Each of these I placed in a separate add-on folder and the order of entries in the scenery library is the same as listed above. Thus, the Germany landclass is at the top of the group and the Italy landclass at the bottom. I do that because some packages overlap each other and I wanted to ensure that the more accurate (as far as I can tell) version overwrites the less accurate.

Enjoy.

Cheers, Holger

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Hi Francois,

the Italy landpack link is at the very bottom of the page where it says "Download" in fat red letters :wink: Try http://www.aliditalia.com/downloads/Itasione4.zip

Odd about the French links, they worked yesterday. However, I can get to Arnaud's site via this link: http://arnaud.clere.free.fr/wikini/wakklassFrance

and Francesim.com via this one: http://francesim.com/Recherche.aspx?Recpe=1&Afr=0

Cheers, Holger

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Thanks, Guido, crossing posts :wink:

BTW, I use Arnaud's "standard" version of the France landclass (the larger file at Francesim.com comes with nifty replacement textures of vineyards etc but those replacements have global effect so one would have to switch back and forth via a batch file - the "b" word again :twisted: ).

Even the standard package comes with a few additional textures and autogen sheets. I haven't tried their effect yet but it would be the same global effect. However, the bgl file works fine without any of those additional files. In short, the only file I'm currently using from Arnaud's package is "lc_france_std.bgl".

Cheers, Holger

P.S.: Any additional ideas for enhancements for the Alps are welcome; post and discuss them here or in a separate thread.

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>>Hi Francois,

the Italy landpack link is at the very bottom of the page where it says "Download" in fat red letters <<

Ummmm...... :oops: :oops: :oops: I browsed that site for 30 minutes at least..... never reached that part :shock: Sorry !

I'll try the others too.... :wink:

Dont worry Francios, when that sort of thing happens to me (almost on a daily basis) I just put it down to a "senior moment".

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What about some suggested landclass for that other hilly area - Alaska?

I'd like to know. from those that know, if there's anything better than default for the majority of the state (UT is just towns and cities). I know that small areas have been improved but I'd be interested in the rest of this part of the world.

Victor

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Hi there,

just a tiny bit off-topic there, are we Victor? :wink: I'd say you are the expert on Alaskan landclass files. I've never seen any freeware that covers larger areas of mainland AK and don't own any of the payware versions, like MyWorld, Taburet, etc. Continue on "Victor's Quest" and let us know if you find something :lol:

As usual the question regarding above vs. below has popped up. All my references are always with regards to the scenery library menu in FS9. I don't edit the scenery.cfg by hand, at least not when adding entries or changing priorities.

Below is a screenshot of how the landclass entries listed above are sorted in my scenery library. Hope that helps.

BTW, it took me a while to "get it" myself but it's quite easy to move entries in the library menu. After clicking once on 'Move Up' or 'Move Down' you can use the keyboard's Enter button to continue moving entries. Prevents a click-fest when moving entries across large scenery libraries.

Cheers, Holger

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Hi there,

just a tiny bit off-topic there, are we Victor? :wink: I'd say you are the expert on Alaskan landclass files. I've never seen any freeware that covers larger areas of mainland AK and don't own any of the payware versions, like MyWorld, Taburet, etc. Continue on "Victor's Quest" and let us know if you find something :lol:

As the topic was originally about landclass my question wasn't that off topic. :wink: :lol:

Anyway, as our "Man Almost on the Spot" how would you say the default landclass compares to the real thing? Oooops that's a bit off topic too. Sorry, Holger! :D :lol:

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Hello,

first of all, thanks a lot Holger and Jonathan for the great 38m Mesh for the Alps, it's a really a joy doing those Air Dolomit flights in the splendid ATR now :-).

Just found this one in the AVSIM file library today, a landclass for Switzerland released by Frank Barth who recently released the landclass for Austria:

http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?DLCatID=root

A question for you Holger, can I still use your Innsbruck landclass when I am already using Frank Barth's Austria landclass? What would you recommend?

Are there any more freeware landclass files on the net for Europe, for example Spain, Great Britain?

Thanks a lot!

Christian

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Hi there,

thanks, Christian. It's great to have a landclass file of Switzerland that covers the entire country; Ernst Bosshard's version may be more accurate (I don't know) but it focuses on the valleys whereas Frank's landclass file covers the mountains too. Thus, you can use either just Frank's version or keep Ernst's version *above* the entry for Frank's file in the scenery library.

Let's see, here's what I got for other parts of Europe (at Avsim, if not noted otherwise):

North Scotland landclass, by Paul Davidson: nscotlandlc_v1.zip

Ireland landclass, by Geoff Steiner-Scott: irltex11.zip at http://www.fsnordic.net/

Faroe Islands landclass, by Raimund Rödel: faroe2002.zip at http://www.fsnordic.net/

Greenland landclass, by Raimondo Taburet: classgreenland.zip at http://www.fsnordic.net/

Iceland landclass, by Björn Brimar Hákonarson and Kjartan Helgason: Iceland2005.zip at http://www.fsnordic.net/

Norway landclass, see this thread: http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=ype=search

Finnish landclass: http://fisd.fsnordic.net/site/?page_id=41

Danish landclass by Hans Palsson, Swedish Design Team: danclass_pre_v1.zip

Swedish landclass by Hans Palsson, Swedish Design Team: sweclass_pre_v1.zip

Estonia landclass, by Holger Fillbrandt: EstonianLandscape.zip

Spain, Alicante province landclass, by Hector Domenech: alicantelc.zip

Some of the packages have more than just landclass files. If you don't want to install those just pick out the LC* or landclass* .bgl files and install them separately.

Anything I missed? :wink:

Cheers, Holger

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Hello Holger,

thank you very much for providing me with all the suggestions for landclass files, I think I have to download a few bits and bytes now :).

I am going to keep both Switzerland landclass files and as you told the one from Frank below the one from Ernest.

Thank you very much for all the effort!

best regards,

Christian

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Hi

Thanks for all those links to landclass files.

After trying to add landclasses in the way you listed I got a serious blurry problem. FS cant seem to load textures fast enough with them enabled.

Flying at no more than normal rate and about 250kt GS I ended up with nothing but blurry terrain after about an hour.

As soon as I disable the landclass everything is back to normal again.

Anyone else experience this and know why?

Jan T

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Hi there,

interesting! That's a pretty good rig and actually quite similar to mine except for the Pentium chip.

The default land class files repeat the same class over and over again in many regions, which makes it easy for the sim to load and place the corresponding textures. A more accurate land class file usually has more texture types and more spatial diversity and thus the sim gets more to do.

However, I never noticed any serious issues with blurriness or loading times, particularly not when compared to a photoreal add-on.

You could try turning off extended textures but that means that the mid distance will always be less sharp than with extended textures on.

Another option is to do a scenery refresh once in a while; you can assign a key stroke command to "Refresh scenery". If I do get blurry textures I prefer using that over having to fly with the blurries.

Where specifically where you flying? Across the Alps or central parts of Europe?

Cheers, Holger

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Hi Holger

Ive been flying around the alps using the German, Austrian and Italian landclasses mentioned in this thread.

Did a flight today from LOWI flying east for a while then south towards the Italian border and then west again. Slowly the sim lagged more and more behind on loading the textures.

Guess were at the limit of what is possible...

Jan T

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Hi Holger,

I'm a bit confused on how to setup the Germany landclass you refer to in this post. You refer to the "update" file in your link. However, this file won't install on my machine unless you have the base file installed. I'm somewhat cautious about automatic installers such as these, so I installed the base file that is listed on the same web page as the update file into a test folder. It seemed to install just a single landclass bgl. I then ran the update file and it completed its procedure - whatever it was. However, there was absolutely no change in the base file that I'd previously installed. In other words, the modification date didn't change.

So I'm really unclear what's going on. I fear that these installers may be changing other parts of my installation that I'm unaware of, and I've run the uninstall program to get back to where I was - hopefully - before I started. Do you have any thoughts about what's going on here, and just which files I should be installing for this landclass?

Also, I'm not sure which of the files I ought to be installing from Ernst Bosshard's Swiss landclass. He has 2 separate packages inside the main download. There's the simple one named "ebchlc8.zip" and the more complex one named "ebch3.zip". If running UT Europe, which of these ought I to be installing?

Thanks, Robert

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Hi Robert,

sorry, I forgot to respond the first time around.

I actually had to double-check about the Germany land class myself. It turns out that both files are the same and the update page is only meant for people that had the original version of West Germany only installed. The website isn't very clear about it, which is what confused me.

As for the Switzerland land class package I've been using the simple version with the EBCHE.bgl and EBCHW.bgl files. Not sure what the other files do; they seem to be a combinations of flatten files and small scenery additions, which are probably unnecessary for UT-Europe users.

I've updated my initial list accordingly.

Cheers, Holger

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