Waltm Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 I'm a big fan of MyTraffic Military AI, however I've noticed that when an AI helicopter is parked on the tarmak, its wheels/skids are sunk into the ground, making the choppers look like they are resting on their bellys. None of the fixed wing MyTraffic Military AI aircraft show this problem, nor does any other AI AC do this. Just the choppers. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- Waltm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baksteen33 Posted February 9, 2006 Report Share Posted February 9, 2006 Hi Walt, perhaps check this thread as Burkhard will likely answer tomorrow morning (CET). Just to get you started... http://forums.simflight.com/viewtopic.php?t=48153 Hope it adds to thoughts, good luck and kind regards Jaap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waltm Posted February 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Thanks for the link. I'll be looking forward to Burkhard's thoughts. -- Walt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkhard Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 My first suspicion is again that it is a property of the airport, not the aircrafts . remember well having them balanced on the carriers were I have control over hight of airfield and of tarmac. So please tell us were you made that shot. But this time you get me puzzled. I started FS9, went to a few places I know there have been helicopters, unchanged since release of the Navy package 8 months a go - and all of them have their bellies hidden. Also at places were they have been looked at 100 times to be OK. Both at KNZY and ETHB. I ended FS9, started it again, and this time, instead of using the observer mode, taxied to the helis. Guess what - all of them were at the right location, see attached image. (to be continued) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkhard Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Made a few more experiments. It strongly depends on how you come to the aircrafts/helis. When I start the flight on an airport, or fly into an airport, the aircrafts display correctly, those that I taxi to as well as those I use traffic explorer to jump to on the same airport. This is at least true always when I start the sim not in a paused state - if it is paused things are not so clear. When I than use traffic explorer to jump to another airport, indeed all helis sink into the ground. Is this what you observe too, or do you get other observations? I will take some time over the weekend to verify this and to look if one can modify anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waltm Posted February 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Burkhard, Thank you for the prompt responses! :D I've seen this problem both at airports where I start a flight and at airports after landing (my attached pix was taken after landing at KNFW--Ft. Worth NAS). With the exception of Abacus' FSRepaint, I don't use any other aircraft viewer. I've observed choppers taxiing and their gear always appear planted correctly on the ground, though I've never seen one taxi to a stop. Hope this helps. -- Walt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkhard Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I took the CH53 as example and reworked it in GMAX. I lifted the model by 40 cm against 0 - and lowered it in the aircraft.cfg. While this is easily said, it isn't at all. Once you have switched your GMAX setup to FS9 code instead of FS8 code, you cannot convert back, or GMAX crashes every minute and never compiles everything. So any touching of a GMAX model requires to convert it to FS9 code - which means that all animation has to be redone, all rotation axis have to be redone, all materials have to be redone. If you redo all that, you can make the redo still further, include the better LOD work allowed by FS9, and include the explitit mip mapping technology. So it was the end of the day ( beginning of the next to be more correct ) when all this was done for this model that mainly maybe needed shifting a bit... You can find this reworked object under http://www.fsrail.com/CH53_My.zip At least, it now performs much much faster, has night illumination working,... Please delete the aircraft\CH53_MY directory and put the identical archive you find in the archive there. Than have a look if the Stallions do no longer show the belly in the tarmac property. I cannot really test it, since at two of my three systems, this never happens, and on the third only sometimes, and only reproducable when using the traffic toolbox to get to another airport. There I had the effect that the chopters display properly for a few minutes, and than the tarmac jumps up... So please test if the direction was the right one. If it is, than I will go to do it with the other helicopters too, but do not want to invest a few weeks of work if it doesn't fix the problem.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waltm Posted February 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Much better! Thank you. :D Flying FS9.1 full screen at 1600x1200x32 Intel Pentium 4 640 HT 3.20 GHz Windows XP Pro SP2 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz (2x512M) 256MB PCI Express x16 ATI Radeon X850 XT PE Catalyst 5.9 drivers for Windows XP DirectX 9.0c ViewSonic P95f+ 19 inch Ultrabrite CRT Monitor Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Creative I-Trigue 2.1 3300 Speakers Saitek Gamers Keyboard USB Logitech MX 518 Optical Mouse USB MS ForceFeedback 2 joystick USB Belkin Hi-Speed USB 2.0 7-Port Hub WideFS 6.5.1.0 ActiveSky 6 SU2 FSUIPC 3.53 Registered FS Force 1.02 FSNavigator 4.6 Active Camera 2004 v2.0 LAGO FSE AISmooth V 1.11a JABScreen v2.2 Linksys Wireless Router WRT54G 802.11g NETWORKED SYSTEM (Running WideFS Client & ASV): Intel Pentium 4, 2.0 GHz Windows XP Pro SP2 512 MB RAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkhard Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 So sorry. But it indicates the unreproducability of the problem best. You show me the CH47 Chinook that didn't get changed, and now it looks +/- perfect, while I changed the CH53 Stallion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waltm Posted February 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 You're right, Burkhard. I guess I can't tell the difference between a CH47 and CH53. I'll go hunting for a CH53 today. Thank you for your hard work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkhard Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 To ease your life. the CH47 is a banana and the CH53 is a plumkin. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkhard Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Any more observations on this. Planing for the next weekend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waltm Posted March 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Burkhard, I've come across several large choppers and none of them are sunk into the ground like before, though I'm still not sure I can tell the CH47 from the CH53. Have a good weekend! - Walt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkhard Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 The above image shows the CH47, with two rotors. The CH53 has one very big six blade rotor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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