Necroscope Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Hello Pete, First off all - I've readed the manuals and used the search. :) I`d like to use one axis of my HOTAS Cougar as Reverser. And sucessfully add the axis(I`m using custom-made lever plugged to Ruder axis) in to FSUIPC. In common words - it works. :) So the problem - I can`t rich the numbers less then -4096. Using my own gauges and sim-connect module I've found that -4096 is around of -25% of throttle. It`s ok for default aircrafts and f.e. Wilco Citation X. But for CLS A346 or F1 Super 80 Pro -25% is only half of Reverser cause Full Reverser on this planes is around -45%. Unfortunatelly the Reverser axis in FSUIPC do not expanding as it pointed in manual. I've also notify that if I mount the axis as "Throttle Set 1" but leave "Axis not processed" in calibration - my reverser lever works for all way (from 100% to -41% for CLS A346). It is great, but I need reverser from 0% to -41%. :) Coulp you please help? Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 So the problem - I can`t rich the numbers less then -4096. Using my own gauges and sim-connect module I've found that -4096 is around of -25% of throttle. Yes, that's the normal maximum reverse thrust provided. It's set in the Aircraft CFG files -- in fact FSUIPC converts the -4096 extreme into the max reverse value set for the aircraft, which is usually less, in fact. It`s ok for default aircrafts and f.e. Wilco Citation X. But for CLS A346 or F1 Super 80 Pro -25% is only half of Reverser cause Full Reverser on this planes is around -45%.Unfortunatelly the Reverser axis in FSUIPC do not expanding as it pointed in manual. It won't show any value other than the -4096 in the calibration, but it should be converting that value to whatever the aircraft sets. The value it uses is available in FSUIPC offset 0B00 (as a proportion of -16384: e.g. -4096 for -25%). That forms the lever limit of the calibration. Please always state version numbers of my modules when asking questions or reporting problems. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necroscope Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Hello Pete, thank you for reply. The version is 4.306. Yes, that's the normal maximum reverse thrust provided. It's set in the Aircraft CFG files -- in fact FSUIPC converts the -4096 extreme into the max reverse value set for the aircraft, which is usually less, in fact. Here the string from aircraft.cfg of CLS A346: min_throttle_limit=-0.40000, same numder is set in .air file. I can rich -40% using "F2" button, but can't rich less then -25% with reverser assigned to separate axis. It won't show any value other than the -4096 in the calibration, but it should be converting that value to whatever the aircraft sets. The value it uses is available in FSUIPC offset 0B00 (as a proportion of -16384: e.g. -4096 for -25%). That forms the lever limit of the calibration. You mean that I can't use separate reverser below -25%? Or I have to calibrate the axis with some tricky way? Perhaps I don't understand some important things? Could I please ask you to explane the proccess how to assing and calibrate the separate axis to use it as reverser with full way back? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Here the string from aircraft.cfg of CLS A346: min_throttle_limit=-0.40000, same numder is set in .air file. I can rich -40% using "F2" button, but can't rich less then -25% with reverser assigned to separate axis. Hmm. Strange. You should be able to. I experiment here, see what I can find. Maybe I have a bug. You mean that I can't use separate reverser below -25%? Or I have to calibrate the axis with some tricky way? No, neither. It should calibrate the -4096 position it shows on the screen to actually provide the maximum reverse thrust allowed for the aircraft. If it isn't it is an error. i will check. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andydigital Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I've seen the exact same thing happen in the Aerosoft Twin Otter, the throttles should go all the way back to -60% and they do if you use F2, but with throttle reverser set to a seperate Axis in FSUIPC it stops at -25% i think going from memory. I didn't bring it up before because i didn't realise it was possibly an FSUIPC issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 I've seen the exact same thing happen in the Aerosoft Twin Otter, the throttles should go all the way back to -60% and they do if you use F2, but with throttle reverser set to a seperate Axis in FSUIPC it stops at -25% i think going from memory. I didn't bring it up before because i didn't realise it was possibly an FSUIPC issue. Looking at the code it seems the limit of 25% is imposed on the separate reverser axes, and always has been, for all the years the facility has been provided. It is easy to fix, but it will only be in an interim incremental release for now as I am away on holiday from next Thursday and won't have time to put together a full release till October. Look out for revise interim releases with this fixed in the FSX and Other Downloads Announcements above. I should be able to get them sorted within the next few days, maybe even later today. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andydigital Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Oh that's fantastic news Peter, thank you very much for the tremendous support as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necroscope Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Pete, you the best! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andydigital Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Just to let you know Pete that the reverser on a separate axis works perfectly now, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Just to let you know Pete that the reverser on a separate axis works perfectly now, thanks. Good. Thanks for the feedback! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necroscope Posted September 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Confirmed! Tested on CLS346 and Super80Pro. Works fine! Thank you Pete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Confirmed!Tested on CLS346 and Super80Pro. Works fine! Thank you Pete! Thanks for the feedback. Good flying! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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