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After what appeared to be a sucessful downlaod from Simmarket ( the file size was the published 1.07GB) I tried to install

I firstly tried the rename of the existing My traffic folder to 5.1b and everything seeemd fine

After setting the traffic sliders to around 50% I went to Jakarta ( WIII)

Unfortunately there were no 737 200s 300s or 400s and only one 737 500

Normally on version 5.1b AT 50% there would be about 10 -15 planes

I then tried a re-install and the same thing

I then went to several other airports (Malaga , Gatwick , Manchester , Stansted etc )and the same , no 737 200s , 300s or 400s

In fact at Stansted at around 60% traffic the place was just full of Ryanair 737-800s

The other planes seemed fine ( and in fact the new models look great)

I am using FSX with SP1 only and did not try to change the schedules etc ( I am not using the SDK etc)

Maybe my download was incomplete soi I am trying again

Sorry this mail is so long but would really appeciate your help

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Will check. There should be plenty of 733 almost everywhere, while most of the 732 indeed have been grounded recently.

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I dowloaded again from Simmarket last night ( only 8hrs !!) and appeared one again to get the full 1.07GB

When I checked my computer this morning my Norton Anti Virus had completed a scan , but no virues or problems had been found / fixed in the scan

Should I use this downloaded version or will the scan have affected my download ?

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If it affects it ( there has been no report yet on a crippling of 5.2 by any virus scanner ), this would give an error message, so if you get the aircraft installers running and if there is a folder aircraft\B733MX as example containing all the usual files, then the install will be OK, and it doesn't matter what you use.

Please set ( performance should be perfect still ) your traffic density to 100% (both) and make a frew screen shots how it looks, telling us time and location, then we can compare if it is like this.

5.2 compared to 5.1b contains really many more planes, look at all those new Fokkers, ATRs, Embraers, many of them also have paints in Indonesia. This has as consequence, that the "old" models don't need to be used so many times as before, maybe we had to use every 737 4 or 5 times in 5.1b on a specific airport and now only 2 times.

To check if your 737 classic work, the airlines which have really many of them are a good check, United, Lufthansa, Easyjet, Malaysian come into my mind.

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This was based on a fresh install ( with the only adjustments being the FSX cfg / fsx Scenary additions )and the following FSX times

12 noon on 28th October 2008 at WIII ( this may also pick up traffic at Halim / Bandung/ enroute in the area )

I set the Airline / GA sliders to 100% and the following AI traffic was around ( I found it difficult to take representative secreenshots hence the list )

Note - the list below excludes the Military and GA aircraft ( of which there were about 10 )

737 500 VH ANK

737 800 PK GIDGGF

737 800 VT JNR

747 400 PKGSG

747 400 PK GSH

767 300 HL 7506

767 300 PKOBYC

A319 9V SBE

A330 PK GPD

A330 PK GPF

DC 10 PK GIA

DC 10 PK GIC

DC 10 PK GID

MD 83 PK LMG

MD 83 PK LMI

MD 83 PK LMJ

MD 83 PK LMJ

MD 83 PK LMK

MD 83 PK LML

MD 83 PK LML

MD 83 PK LMQ

MD 83 PK LMY

MD 83 PK LMY

MD 83 PK LMY

MD 83 PK OCU

MD 83 PK WIH

I also went to Kuala Lumpa International at the same time / traffic settings and for the airline traffic had the following in the vincinity

12 B747s

2 B757s

1 B767

6 B777s

2 A300s

1 A319

3 A320

6 A330

1 A340

2 MD83

2 MD11

But no 737s at all

When I looked inside the Mytraffic AIRCRAFT FOLDERS and the "AIR" files many had written references to the 737-400 , even the Emberar 175 and 145 planes and the 737 -300s , 500s , 700s and 800s

This forum will not let me attach the air or text files so I paste below the AIR file text for the 737 300 and 737 800 to illustrate this

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Maximum Range 2,059 nm

Service Ceiling 36,089 ft

Max Takeoff Weight 138,500 lb

Seating 147 to 168

Cargo Capacity 1,373 CU ft

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Maximum Range 2,059 nm

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Max Takeoff Weight 138,500 lb

Seating 147 to 168

Cargo Capacity 1,373 CU ft

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Do these look right ( should they both have references to the 737 400 ?)

Thanks for all your help and patience ( and I will repeat that the new models ( the ones I have !!) look amazing )

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Hi, I can confirm now something being strange. On one install I have I do see the 733, on a second not. Even an exchange with the 51b doesn't show them there :?: Even with the standard automatic scheduling the 733 do not show up there, the 737 do :?: I will ( obviously) continue to search what the bit is going on.

The air file is the same for all 733, I also copied the one from the well working 738 - they all are copies of the stock air files anyways, since AI traffic does not work with modified ones... Now I need an :idea:

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When I ran the "full resolution / full animation" feature in the Traffic Communicator the 737 200s appeared but als still no 737 300s or 737 400s

Just out of interest in the sim cfg some references read "NY" instead of "MY" for the paints

If I have to I will pay for another download version at Simmarket , maybe the one previously allocated to be had some problems with the 737 300 and 400 files

Out of futher interest when I ran the rebuild feature in the My Traffic Communicator I got an error message for the following aircraft ( file cannot be extracted)

Embarer 145

Embarer 195

Bombadier Global Express

Sorry to be a pain ...... but without a full MyTraffic FSX is just not the same ( that is a compliment BTW !!!!)

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Definitvely you will not have to buy a new version just for technical problems. If you completely loose it and didn't purchase the download backup we have a problem, but the rest is a question of service.

If you get this error message now and didn't get it at first install then this indicates that you either have a severe hardware problem with the disk, or your anti virus software runs crazy and destroys files. Disallow "Repair" features. What you always can do without any harm is the following:

Do not uninstall MyTraffic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just install again, and as target folder take any temp folder far away from FSX on your disk. Once the first part of the install is over, terminate the DO window.

You will have mostly a MyTrafficAircraftInstaller folder containing the freshly unpacked files, and you can replace the ones in your MyTraffic folder by these ( and run them manually then ).

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I found the 733/734 issue.

The :twisted: worst :twisted: software :twisted: written :twisted: by :twisted: any :twisted: human :twisted: being :twisted: or :twisted: any :twisted: other :twisted: galactic :twisted: creature :twisted: - you know that I mean the one where you sit in front of a screen displaying something that isn't the file you look at, while claiming that you can look through a hole in your wall - decided in its glory to include an unvisible non-ASCI-character into the aircraft.cfg file ( which is a pure text file ) - and FSX can read this file or not depending on language settings :mrgreen:

If you install the Patches to 5.2 through the Communicator, this should be fixed.

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My FSX machine is not connected to the Internet ( I did this on purpose to avoid the need for an antivirus programme which slows FSX )

After downloading from Simmarket at work ( with Norton Anti Virus disabled) I transferred to a flashdisk , scanned it before transferring to my home desk top with FSX

How can I get the patch ? Is there another link ?

Many thanks for all your investigation etc

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www.fsrail.com/Patches52.exe

Just put it into the MyTrafficAircraftInstallers folder and run it from there with a double click.

By the way, wise decision. I think that no computer doing serious stuff should be coupled to the internet, and flight is serious :D

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When I run this patch from mytraffic communicator or directly in the aircraft installer folder then I get an error saying "the selected file(s) couldn't get extracted"

Previously I'd downloaded and run the file from my downloads folder in Vista and the file ran, would it still have worked correctly and done its job even though it wasn't in the correct folder before execution? Subsequently if I now try to run the file from the downloads folder again I now get the same error, so its almost as if you can only ever run the file once, or maybe this just means it has done its job correctly?

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Clearly it hasn't done its job because I cant see the 737's in question from this thread, only the 500 and 800 series show up in supertrafficboard.

I'm using DX10 Scheds if this is relevant.

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Same got reported elsewhere, some bit in the archive must be wrong. If you have an empty folder with an empty subfolder and place it there it unpacks properly, and you can can move the files manually, or have to wait until I can pack this new and upload later.

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I'm using XP sp3 and fsx sp2. When I installed the patch it installed to C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games If I move\cut and paste the patch folder to C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X all is well.

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