Idle Setting Issue with CH TQ

[stevehookem]

I replaced my computer today and I am trying to assign my CHTQ in FSUIPC. I have the registered version.

I know that I am doing it correctly. I have assigned the levers with no issue. When I go to joystick calibration, it will not set any value other than the value set for full reverse in the two idle fields. I set the reverse all the way back beyond the detent. I then set the max by pushing full forward. I put back to the detent and hit "set" and it fills in the full reverse number. Pulling back slightly and hitting set again also puts in the same number.

Here's a screen shot.

Note: I only use FSUIPC for the CHTQ. I have CHCM in direct mode. I prefer to use it for the pedals and yoke. If I select "disable" in FSX, I lose my GoFlight module functionality and I like to use GHFConfig for them.

Help!

[Pete Dowson]

I replaced my computer today and I am trying to assign my CHTQ in FSUIPC. I have the registered version.

There's no "registered" versus "unregistered" version. When you register the software is just the same, you merely unlock the user facilities.

I know that I am doing it correctly. I have assigned the levers with no issue. When I go to joystick calibration, it will not set any value other than the value set for full reverse in the two idle fields.

It copies the IN values into each idle field alternately when you press the "Set" button above those fields. It has no choice, that's all it can do -- copy current value. But YOU have to push the button when the values are okay! If you push them when the INput value is -16384, then you'll get -16384. FSUIPC will not invent mystical unused numbers to go in there. They have to be values supplied by your lever at the positions you set.

I set the reverse all the way back beyond the detent. I then set the max by pushing full forward. I put back to the detent and hit "set" and it fills in the full reverse number. Pulling back slightly and hitting set again also puts in the same number.

Evidently your levers are designed to provide a full range only from the detente to full max. The part of your levers before the detente are obviously not providing a different value.

Didn't I read others saying that the reverse on those throttles are by a button being pressed by pulling the levers back? I suspect you cannot use them the way you hope, unless you are prepared to have the idle further forward, and the reverse operating back to that detente.

There's a CH-hangar website which contains lots of assistance for CH users. There's also a sticky thread here called "FSUIPC Guide for CH Users" -- have you looked?

I think you need to learn a little more about your CH TQ so you can decide what to do with it.

Regards

Pete

[stevehookem]

I had them working perfectly before---just like I wanted. Idle to full above the detent, reverse below. And yes, I have read everything you mentioned several times.

When I place the lever on the detent and press "set", it is filling in the far back position that was set first as "reverse". I then move slightly to the rear of the detent and press "set" again. It then fills in the full reverse number again.

I love your product and appreciate all the help you give. However, some of your posts take on a slightly condescending tone. As I read through them all I can almost hear the "that's a stupid question" coming from the screen. I apologize if I am reading you wrong but take a step back and look at your posts. I think you'll agree that they are a little harsh sometimes.

[Bob Church]

Hi Steve,

Go to the Test/Calibration page in the Control Manager. Up at the top is a tab marked "Throttle Settings". Pick that and it will bring up a screen with a settings box for each of the axes. There are three settings each. Min, Detent, and Max. The default is to set Max and Detent to 255. Change the Detent value to about 240 for all the axes you want the reverse on. Otherwise, there is no change in value behind the detent. It will hit 255 at detent and stay there all the way to the back stop.

Best regards,

- Bob

The StickWorks

http://www.stickworks.com

[Pete Dowson]

When I place the lever on the detent and press "set", it is filling in the far back position that was set first as "reverse". I then move slightly to the rear of the detent and press "set" again. It then fills in the full reverse number again.

There are three separate "Set" buttons, one over the full reverse, one over the two centre/idle ones, and one over the max. The relevant buttons set the values beneath. All it does is copy the input value to those slots. If your IN value says -16384, then that it what you'll get.

I love your product and appreciate all the help you give. However, some of your posts take on a slightly condescending tone. As I read through them all I can almost hear the "that's a stupid question" coming from the screen. I apologize if I am reading you wrong but take a step back and look at your posts. I think you'll agree that they are a little harsh sometimes.

No, I don't think they do. I only try to be factual. if you think I'm explaining at too low a level, you should see the complaints I get if I explain at what I would consider a more expert level. If trying to explain things well comes across as "condescending" to you then I won't respond to you any more. Sorry. I'm only trying to help! I'll let someone you might like better take over, maybe someone who's actually got a CH TQ.

:-(

Pete

[stevehookem]

Pete,

Of course I want you to continue to respond. I may have taken your reply the wrong way.

Thanks for the help.

Steve

[Pete Dowson]

Go to the Test/Calibration page in the Control Manager. Up at the top is a tab marked "Throttle Settings". Pick that and it will bring up a screen with a settings box for each of the axes. There are three settings each. Min, Detent, and Max. The default is to set Max and Detent to 255. Change the Detent value to about 240 for all the axes you want the reverse on. Otherwise, there is no change in value behind the detent. It will hit 255 at detent and stay there all the way to the back stop.

Thanks Bob. So when I said "your levers are designed to provide a full range only from the detente to full max. The part of your levers before the detente are obviously not providing a different value." that was correct, except it is "designed" by software setting rather than by hardwareI'm glad there's an easy solution. The inquirer doesn't seem to like my replies, even though I was telling it as it is.

Best regards

Pete

[Pete Dowson]

Of course I want you to continue to respond. I may have taken your reply the wrong way.

Bob Church seems to have identified the reason your levers had no reverse zone in any case. I wouldn't have known that -- all I can explain is what the software is doing and why that is so.

Regards

Pete

[peterhayes]

Bob and Pete

The alternative to using CHCM is that you can set up the CH TQ very easily in WINDOWS following this:

(Note: This sets reverse thrust in a CH TQ so that RT starts at the detent on the TQ and below to minimum.)Run the CH Control Manager in Direct Mode.

Open the Windows calibration tool for your game controllers and choose the CH TQ (Control Panel\Game Controllers\CH TQ\Properties\Settings\Calibrate)

This will then give you an extra tab named "THROTTLE SETTINGS" in the WINDOWS calibration screen.

This extra tab shows: MinValue = 0; MaxValue= 255; DetentValue = 240 [you set it to 240 to ensure reverse thrust starts exactly at the detent]; DeadZone= 4

If you have two throttles set the "X" axis and the "Y" axis detents at 240. If setting four throttles, you will probably be using the X, Y, and two from the Z, R, U and/or V axes.

Setting the detent value at 240 in Windows makes it very easy to set/calibrate RT in FSUIPC4.

Regards

PeterH

[pschlute]

I use the CH throttle quadrant and can add further advice. Dont install the CH software at all.

Use FSUIPC to assign all axes and calibrations. This way you rule out any chance of the CH software conflicting with the FSUIPC settings.