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Hello Pete,

recently I bought the ACE Yoke for my sim and tried to assign the ap disconnect button via FSUIPC key press to disconnect ap. On pressing this button on the Yoke, the warning sound and the EICAS message appear on PM EICAS page, but the ap still remains connected in the CPflight 747 Module. So I have to press the button on the MCP to disconnect.

Any solution? What did I wrong? Thanks for your help in advance

Peter

System:

FS: WIN XP SP3, FS91, ACE Yoke

MCP: WINXP, PM MCP, pmsounds, CPFlight software, TEKWorx Software, CPFlight 747 modules.

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recently I bought the ACE Yoke for my sim and tried to assign the ap disconnect button via FSUIPC key press to disconnect ap.

What keypress is "ap disconnect"? Sorry, I don't know what you are doing.

On pressing this button on the Yoke, the warning sound and the EICAS message appear on PM EICAS page, but the ap still remains connected in the CPflight 747 Module. So I have to press the button on the MCP to disconnect.

Is the ACE yoke specifically part of the problem? Are you implying that AP Disconnect works when assigned elsewhere, as to a button or keypress?

If you are using PM you have to use PM's AP disconnect control, which is different for 747 and other aircraft. Check the list in the advanced user's guide for FSUIPC. For FS autopilot there's no disconnect only the AP master toggle (same as the Z key), but that's not relevant for PM.

Regards

Pete

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What keypress is "ap disconnect"? Sorry, I don't know what you are doing.

Thanks for your reply.

Ok, the expression was not so correct. Sorry.

I opened FSUIPC Menu in the FS. In the Buttons+Switches section I pressed the AP Disconnect Button at the ACE Yoke. FSUIPC showed

"Joy# 2 / 2 Btn# "

Left side shows "Select for FS Control and Include Project Magenta" both checked.

Below this "Control sent when button pressed" I chosed "AP Master" and below this Parameter "0"

When pressing the button on the ACE Yoke this gives the AP disconnect warning sound and the EICAS Message. But the cpflight MCP AP button still is illuminated and the AP is on. On PFD also the CMD is displayed

Is the ACE yoke specifically part of the problem? Are you implying that AP Disconnect works when assigned elsewhere, as to a button or keypress?

No, ACE Yoke works excellent. Before I had the FDS gear lever I assigned gear up/down to another button of the ACE Yoke with the same method and this worked fine.

If you are using PM you have to use PM's AP disconnect control, which is different for 747 and other aircraft. Check the list in the advanced user's guide for FSUIPC. For FS autopilot there's no disconnect only the AP master toggle (same as the Z key), but that's not relevant for PM.

Regards

Pete

Ok, this will take a little time. Is offset 07BC which I found in the offset list the right one for this?

Regards

Peter

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Below this "Control sent when button pressed" I chosed "AP Master" and below this Parameter "0"

Okay. The "AP Master" is the FS control, the same one as pressing 'Z' on the keyboard. It isn't operative with anything using its own autopilot, like several advanced add-on aircraft, and most certainly not to PM. When using PM many normal FS controls, including almost all of those related to the autopilot, are different, because it provides an alternative autopilot to the one built into FS.

When pressing the button on the ACE Yoke this gives the AP disconnect warning sound and the EICAS Message. But the cpflight MCP AP button still is illuminated and the AP is on. On PFD also the CMD is displayed

FS is making the sound, but it cannot switch PM's autopilot off because that is running in the PM program "MCP", not in FS.

Before I had the FDS gear lever I assigned gear up/down to another button of the ACE Yoke with the same method and this worked fine.

PM doesn't take over control of the gear, so that isn't really relevant here.

Is offset 07BC which I found in the offset list the right one for this?

No. Why are you thinking of using offsets? 07BC is the offset for the FS autopilot "AP Master" (same a 'Z'). It isn't a PM offset. If you want to control PM via offsets you need to visit the PM website and view the list of offsets there. I don't publish those, they are the province of PM, not FS or FSUIPC.

But why are you suddenly talking about offsets? There are two PM AP disconnect controls implemented in FSUIPC, one for 747 and one for others, as I pointed out in my last message. They are both listed in the Advanced Guide for FSUIPC (which is what I referred you to, not an offsets list), and they both appear in the drop-down assignments list when you have the PM controls option checked.

Regards

Pete

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But why are you suddenly talking about offsets? There are two PM AP disconnect controls implemented in FSUIPC, one for 747 and one for others, as I pointed out in my last message. They are both listed in the Advanced Guide for FSUIPC (which is what I referred you to, not an offsets list), and they both appear in the drop-down assignments list when you have the PM controls option checked.

Regards

Pete

Ok, I will check this. Thank you very much

Peter

Edit:

after deleting the wrong entry in the fsuipc.ini it works. (overwriting was not possible). The list from which to choose the value is much longer than expected. I took the first possibility instead of looking further down.

Thanks again for your help

Peter

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