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Today, to help a pilot on P3D forum I did a flight:

 

LIPE BOA PIA LIML

 

FSC 9.51 selects a PIA VOR many miles away (in USA), see screenshot?

 

So, I did the same plan in FSBuild and P3D V2.4 flight planner to test .. it was ok.

 

 

FS 9.1
FSX Acceleration
P3Dv2.4
FSUIPC 6.999m, 3.999z9a, 4.937
FSC v9.5.1_Rev2 31July14
DBM 9.5 build 04JAN14
Not Aerosoft version
Win7 64
Navigraph Navdata cycle 1411 Rev. 1

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Hello Vaughan,

 

as described in the manual: Chapter 5.2.2 Creating a flight plan from in airway route.

The field in the Flight Plan Panel window only accepts a route string to the following rules:

Departure Intersection Airway Intersection Airway Intersection  Airway Intersection ... Destination.

Example: EDDH NOLGO UL190 KEMAD UN851 MASEK UL126 DINKU UL603 BESNI EDDM
 

The field accepts never a VOR, NDB, GPS FIX, UWP !!!

 

Thats also the reason why the Waypoint/Rwy/Gate Window exists.

 

Regards,

Volker

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Hi Volker,

 

I thought there was something wrong because I created the same plan with FSBuild, which was sent to FSC,  which I then loaded into FSC and it appeared into the flight plan box and the route was correct in FSC map view (screenshot).

 

 

 

 

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Hello Vaughan,

 

If you import an external plan, then each waypoint has an Icao identifier and the coordinates.
Only an identifier can not be identified in the FlightSim Commander, because of the large number of identical identifiers.

The FlightSim Commander is not so smart.

 

Regards,

Volker

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My flight plan did not have airways ..

But I read again the manual.

 

Page 37 does indicate navaids can be put into the flight plan by typing the name and press the Enter key...... correct?

 

 

I mat have typed the navaid names into the wrong box (place on the FSC screen)!

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Hi Vaughan,

 

You can type the code of the waypoint to be selected into the waypoint text box and press Enter on your keyboard.

 

 

You did not read the next paragraph.

 

To select a waypoint from a list, click on the button with the symbol table on the right-hand side of
the flight plan panel. Select the Waypoint tab of the window. Type <WLD> into the text box.

 

Note the screenshot as an example.

 

Regards,

Volker

 

 

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Yes, thanks for the screenshot.

 

 

My first posted problem was ...

1. I typed LIPE LIML in the flight plan box ... all OK

2. then after LIPE I typed BOA ... all ok

3. So, after BOA I typed PIA ........ now I seen the problem. This VOR was entered but it was many miles away (in USA).

 

For that second VOR I needed to read all of page 37 of the manual.

Which is a different data entry box.

 

Now all I have to do is find (maybe from the internet) the Lat/Lon of the VOR I want in the flight plan (PIA).

Then I can look it up in the FSC list box and select it.

And it will be entered into the flight plan.

 

Same for additional VORs I will want to add.

 

 

Edit:

The original plan was built by MSFS flight planner (VOR - type plan) so I thought the PIA VOR might have been a VOR no longer "in service" with new Airac data ... when it did not work in FSC.

 

My thought also was if MSFS can build a low altitude VOR to VOR plan .. so I thought FSC could also.

 

That where I got messed up.

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Vaughn,

 

When you place your cursor on the FSC map the Lon & Lat appear at the bottom of the map.  This should make it easy to select the desired VOR from the list.

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Hi Vaughan,

 

Maybe it's my English, but I like to repeat what is written in the manual.
The text box in the Flight Plan panel accepts only, without exception, the convention as described in my previously post.

 

For all other waypoints using the mouse or the waypoint window.

 

Now all I have to do is find (maybe from the internet) the Lat/Lon of the VOR I want in the flight plan (PIA).

 

The answer is NO.

The route LIPE to LIML is in a coordinate range from N44/N45 to E011/E009.

Compare the screenshot in the waypoint window. Only the marked VOR and NDB are in this range.

 

In summary, in the text box of the Flight Plan panel only Intersections and Airways can be entered.

All other waypoints not lead to a result.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Volker

 

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Vaughn,

 

When you place your cursor on the FSC map the Lon & Lat appear at the bottom of the map.  This should make it easy to select the desired VOR from the list.

Tom,

 

Thanks for the feedback.

Ok, that is correct.

 

Now, what happens when you have no idea where the VOR is .. where do you start looking for it from your present position on the map N, S, E or West?

This in itself is a problem when you have to start looking thing up first.

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Hi Vaughan,

 

Maybe it's my English, but I like to repeat what is written in the manual.

The text box in the Flight Plan panel accepts only, without exception, the convention as described in my previously post.

 

For all other waypoints using the mouse or the waypoint window.

 

 

The answer is NO.

The route LIPE to LIML is in a coordinate range from N44/N45 to E011/E009.

Compare the screenshot in the waypoint window. Only the marked VOR and NDB are in this range.

 

In summary, in the text box of the Flight Plan panel only Intersections and Airways can be entered.

All other waypoints not lead to a result.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Volker

 

Ok,

 

For me to make it easier .. Instead of looking all this up (VOR on map then its lat/lon) and remembering rules for the flight plan entry box (airways only) I will just type the VORs / waypoints into FSBuild's flight plan entry box and export the route to FS Commander.

Then just load it into FSC.. done.

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