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Okay. I see there is a problem with some knobs and buttons -- for me, in Virtual Cockpit mode only. I think it must be to do with the Mouse Macro making hook. I can't see what is wrong at present, so i'll make an Interim version with Mouse Macro making eliminated, for FSX-SE only, and try to fix it properly tomorrow. Meanwhile, download FSUIPC 4.938a from the Download Links subforum -- look out for it in the next hour or so. You'll need to replace the FSUIPC4.DLL only, in the FSX Modules folder.

 

[LATER]

Fixed it! 'Twas easier than I thought. 4.938a is now available for manual install.

 

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Thank you.

By the way, I almost forgot about the installer for FSX Steam Edition. I got an error saying "Your FSX-SE installation is not suitable for this version of FSUIPC. You may need to install an update from Microsoft." However, it says that it installed into FSX-SE okay afterwards when in reality, it isn't. I also noticed from the installer this text:

 

INSTALLATION FOR FSX-SE:

SetupPath="D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

Checking version of the FSX-SE EXE:

... Version 10.0.61637.0  (Need at least 10.0.62607.0)

 

According to this, the installer thought FSX-SE is the FSX directory despite it wasn't.

 

Sorry, there's not enough information there for me to understand this. Please always post the entire log file.

 

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Sorry, there's not enough information there for me to understand this. Please always post the entire log file.

 

Pete

Here it is:

 

Installer for FSUIPC4.DLL version 4.938

Looking in registry for FSX install path:

     HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\10.0

     Parameter"SetupPath"

... >>>  OK! FOUND FSX!  <<< ...

Looking in registry for FSX-SE install path:

     HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator - Steam Edition\10.0

     Parameter"SetupPath"

... >>>  OK! FOUND FSX-SE!  <<< ...

Looking in registry for Prepar3D install path:

     HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\LockheedMartin\Prepar3D

     Parameter"SetupPath"

Not there, so looking in:

     HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Prepar3D

     Parameter"AppPath"

... NOT found! ...

Looking in registry for Prepar3D v2 install path:

     HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2

     Parameter"SetupPath"

... >>>  OK! FOUND Prepar3D v2!  <<< ...

===========================================================

INSTALLATION FOR FSX:

SetupPath="D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

Checking version of the FSX EXE:

... Version 10.0.61637.0  (Need at least 10.0.60905.0)

Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect:

    Found SimConnect build 60905 (Original)

    Found SimConnect build 62607 (Steam Dec14)

    Found SimConnect build 61242 (SP1 May07)

    Found SimConnect build 61259 (Acc/SP2 Oct07)

Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in:

       D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL

... Version 4.938 found.

FSX Modules folder already exists.

Okay -- installed FSUIPC4 into "D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL"

Looking for the current user's Application Data path:

... found as "C:\Users\Junior\AppData\Roaming"

Now finding \Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG for all users, including this one

Looking in "C:\Users\All Users\AppData\Roaming"

 ... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Default\AppData\Roaming"

 ... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Default User\AppData\Roaming"

 ... No FSX.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Junior\AppData\Roaming"

Found FSX.CFG in "C:\Users\Junior\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG"

Now checking DLL.XML ...

... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC4 section.

... FSUIPC4 section already exists but will be replaced.

     (for FSUIPC4, without Loader)

... FSUIPC4 section of DLL.XML written okay

Now checking for a SimConnect.XML file ...

... No SimConnect.XML file found. This is okay.

Looking in "C:\Users\Public\AppData\Roaming"

 ... No FSX.CFG there

"Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder already exists.

Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder:

   Installed "FSUIPC4 User Guide.pdf" okay

   Installed "FSUIPC4 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay

   Installed "FSUIPC4 History.pdf" okay

   Installed "List of FSX and P3D controls.pdf" okay

   Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay

   Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay

   Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay

   Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay

   Installed "LuaFileSystem.pdf" okay

   Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay

   Installed "ASN WX Radar facilities in FSUIPC4.pdf" okay

   Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 737NGX.pdf" okay

   Installed "FSUIPC4 Offsets Status.pdf" okay

   Installed "Profiles in Separate Files.pdf" okay

===========================================================

INSTALLATION FOR FSX-SE:

SetupPath="D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

Checking version of the FSX-SE EXE:

... Version 10.0.61637.0  (Need at least 10.0.62607.0)

===========================================================

INSTALLATION FOR Prepar3D v2:

SetupPath="C:\Prepar3D v2\"

Checking version of the Prepar3D v2 EXE:

... Version 2.4.11570.0  (Need at least 1.0.677.0)

Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect:

Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in:

       C:\Prepar3D v2\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL

... Version 4.938 found.

Prepar3D v2 Modules folder already exists.

Okay -- installed FSUIPC4 into "C:\Prepar3D v2\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL"

Looking for the current user's Application Data path:

... found as "C:\Users\Junior\AppData\Roaming"

Now finding \Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\Prepar3D.CFG for all users, including this one

Looking in "C:\Users\All Users\AppData\Roaming"

 ... No Prepar3D.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Default\AppData\Roaming"

 ... No Prepar3D.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Default User\AppData\Roaming"

 ... No Prepar3D.CFG there

Looking in "C:\Users\Junior\AppData\Roaming"

Found Prepar3D.CFG in "C:\Users\Junior\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\Prepar3D.CFG"

Now checking DLL.XML ...

... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC4 section.

... FSUIPC4 section already exists but will be replaced.

     (for FSUIPC4, without Loader)

... FSUIPC4 section of DLL.XML written okay

Now checking for a SimConnect.XML file ...

... No SimConnect.XML file found. This is okay.

Looking in "C:\Users\Public\AppData\Roaming"

 ... No Prepar3D.CFG there

"Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder already exists.

Now installing the Prepar3D SimConnect interface for FSUIPC4 into the "Modules" folder:

   Installed "SimConnectP3D2.dll" okay

Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder:

   Installed "FSUIPC4 User Guide.pdf" okay

   Installed "FSUIPC4 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay

   Installed "FSUIPC4 History.pdf" okay

   Installed "List of FSX and P3D controls.pdf" okay

   Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay

   Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay

   Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay

   Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay

   Installed "LuaFileSystem.pdf" okay

   Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay

   Installed "ASN WX Radar facilities in FSUIPC4.pdf" okay

   Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 737NGX.pdf" okay

   Installed "FSUIPC4 Offsets Status.pdf" okay

   Installed "Profiles in Separate Files.pdf" okay

 

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Looking in registry for FSX-SE install path:

     HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator - Steam Edition\10.0

     Parameter"SetupPath"

... >>>  OK! FOUND FSX-SE!  <<< ...

 

Ok, it appears your registry shows FSX-SE installed in the wrong folder. can you check?  Using Regedit, look at

 

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator - Steam Edition\10.0

for the parameter "SetupPath" or "AppPath"

 

Oh, or it could be in

 

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator - Steam Edition\10.0

 

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Hi Pete I've reported problems with knobs and switches too, I've currently deleted fsuipc just until it's sorted.

Just wondering what's changed in the 4.938a version?

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Hi Pete I've reported problems with knobs and switches too, I've currently deleted fsuipc just until it's sorted.

Just wondering what's changed in the 4.938a version?

 

Fixed it -- Mouse Macro creation now works and the hooks don't mess up mouse operations. 4.938a is now available, manual install only.

 

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Ok, it appears your registry shows FSX-SE installed in the wrong folder. can you check?  Using Regedit, look at

 

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator - Steam Edition\10.0

for the parameter "SetupPath" or "AppPath"

 

Oh, or it could be in

 

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator - Steam Edition\10.0

 

Pete

According to the AppPath of HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator - Steam Edition\10.0, it says D:\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\. The FSX Gold Edition is D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\.

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According to the AppPath of HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator - Steam Edition\10.0, it says D:\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\. The FSX Gold Edition is D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\.

 

Hmm. Very strange. The installer is getting the path from HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, parameter "SetupPath".  What does that say in your Registry? 

 

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator - Steam Edition\10.0

     Parameter"SetupPath"

... >>>  OK! FOUND FSX-SE!  <<< ...

 

The Installer checks there first, only going to HKEY_CURRENT_USER etc if it can't find it there.

 

I don't want ot have to try both and make some random decision between them. They should either point to the same path, or one of them be omitted. Else it makes no sense.

 

I shall have to log a bit more information to see what is going on in these cases.

 

Pete

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Pete, Tried installing the latest version of FSUIPC, but upon starting my game, i get an error and the only way to successfully launch my game is to remove the files. Is there a config i can paste to show you that would help?

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Pete, Tried installing the latest version of FSUIPC, but upon starting my game, i get an error and the only way to successfully launch my game is to remove the files. Is there a config i can paste to show you that would help?

 

What error did you get? No one else has reported any loading error before.

 

What files are you removing?

 

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I go into my modules folder and remove all FSUIPC files and it launches without issues, until i reinstall it. I went into Steam/steamapps/common/FSX/SDK/Core Utilities Kit/SimConnectSDK/legacyinterfaces. Would it have anything to do with my version of SimConnect?

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I go into my modules folder and remove all FSUIPC files and it launches without issues, until i reinstall it. I went into Steam/steamapps/common/FSX/SDK/Core Utilities Kit/SimConnectSDK/legacyinterfaces. Would it have anything to do with my version of SimConnect?

 

 

FSUIPC has nothing to do with "Steam/steamapps/common/FSX/SDK/Core Utilities Kit/SimConnectSDK/legacyinterfaces.". What are you messing there for? FSUIPC can and does use the FSX-SE version of Simconnect which should have been correctly installed by Steam.

 

I can't guess what the error is, and you've told me nothing about it. What are these mytsterious "issues" you seem reluctant to even describe?

 

I suspect you have something else going on there, but you aren't telling me anything.

 

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Hmm. Very strange. The installer is getting the path from HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, parameter "SetupPath".  What does that say in your Registry? 

 

 

The Installer checks there first, only going to HKEY_CURRENT_USER etc if it can't find it there.

 

I don't want ot have to try both and make some random decision between them. They should either point to the same path, or one of them be omitted. Else it makes no sense.

 

I shall have to log a bit more information to see what is going on in these cases.

 

Pete

I did look at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE but I couldn't find "Microsoft Games" at the "Microsoft" (this is where FSX and FSX-SE should be at but only HKEY_CURRENT_USER has both).

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I did look at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE but I couldn't find "Microsoft Games" at the "Microsoft" (this is where FSX and FSX-SE should be at but only HKEY_CURRENT_USER has both).

 

Hmm. Very confusing. I've modified the Installer slightly to log the path at the point where it finds it. It's in the Installer for 4.938a, which I'm just uploading now. If you could run that and show me the log, please, I might be able to understand what is happening.

 

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Disregard my previous im trying to upload a photo

 

I don't want photos. Please just describe the problem. Try using words. I can usually understand them. 

 

Thanks,

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I got the new log file:

 

Installer for FSUIPC4.DLL version 4.938a

Looking in registry for FSX install path:
     HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\10.0
     Parameter"SetupPath"
... >>>  OK! FOUND FSX!  <<< ...
     SetupPath=D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\
Looking in registry for FSX-SE install path:
     HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator - Steam Edition\10.0
     Parameter"SetupPath"
... >>>  OK! FOUND FSX-SE!  <<< ...
     SetupPath=D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\
Looking in registry for Prepar3D install path:
     HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\LockheedMartin\Prepar3D
     Parameter"SetupPath"
Not there, so looking in:
     HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\LockheedMartin\Prepar3D
     Parameter"AppPath"
... NOT found! ...
Looking in registry for Prepar3D v2 install path:
     HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2
     Parameter"SetupPath"
... >>>  OK! FOUND Prepar3D v2!  <<< ...
     SetupPath=C:\Prepar3D v2\
===========================================================

INSTALLATION FOR FSX:
SetupPath="D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"
Checking version of the FSX EXE:
... Version 10.0.61637.0  (Need at least 10.0.60905.0)
Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect:
    Found SimConnect build 60905 (Original)
    Found SimConnect build 62607 (Steam Dec14)
    Found SimConnect build 61242 (SP1 May07)
    Found SimConnect build 61259 (Acc/SP2 Oct07)
Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in:
       D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL
... Version 4.938 found.
FSX Modules folder already exists.
Okay -- installed FSUIPC4 into "D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL"
Looking for the current user's Application Data path:
... found as "C:\Users\Junior\AppData\Roaming"
Now finding \Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG for all users, including this one
Looking in "C:\Users\All Users\AppData\Roaming"
 ... No FSX.CFG there
Looking in "C:\Users\Default\AppData\Roaming"
 ... No FSX.CFG there
Looking in "C:\Users\Default User\AppData\Roaming"
 ... No FSX.CFG there
Looking in "C:\Users\Junior\AppData\Roaming"
Found FSX.CFG in "C:\Users\Junior\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG"
Now checking DLL.XML ...
... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC4 section.
... FSUIPC4 section already exists but will be replaced.
     (for FSUIPC4, without Loader)
... FSUIPC4 section of DLL.XML written okay
Now checking for a SimConnect.XML file ...
... No SimConnect.XML file found. This is okay.
Looking in "C:\Users\Public\AppData\Roaming"
 ... No FSX.CFG there
"Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder already exists.
Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder:
   Installed "FSUIPC4 User Guide.pdf" okay
   Installed "FSUIPC4 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay
   Installed "FSUIPC4 History.pdf" okay
   Installed "List of FSX and P3D controls.pdf" okay
   Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay
   Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay
   Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay
   Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay
   Installed "LuaFileSystem.pdf" okay
   Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay
   Installed "ASN WX Radar facilities in FSUIPC4.pdf" okay
   Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 737NGX.pdf" okay
   Installed "FSUIPC4 Offsets Status.pdf" okay
   Installed "Profiles in Separate Files.pdf" okay
===========================================================

INSTALLATION FOR FSX-SE:
SetupPath="D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"
Checking version of the FSX-SE EXE:
... Version 10.0.61637.0  (Need at least 10.0.62607.0)
===========================================================

INSTALLATION FOR Prepar3D v2:
SetupPath="C:\Prepar3D v2\"
Checking version of the Prepar3D v2 EXE:
... Version 2.4.11570.0  (Need at least 1.0.677.0)
Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect:
Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in:
       C:\Prepar3D v2\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL
... Version 4.938 found.
Prepar3D v2 Modules folder already exists.
Okay -- installed FSUIPC4 into "C:\Prepar3D v2\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL"
Looking for the current user's Application Data path:
... found as "C:\Users\Junior\AppData\Roaming"
Now finding \Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\Prepar3D.CFG for all users, including this one
Looking in "C:\Users\All Users\AppData\Roaming"
 ... No Prepar3D.CFG there
Looking in "C:\Users\Default\AppData\Roaming"
 ... No Prepar3D.CFG there
Looking in "C:\Users\Default User\AppData\Roaming"
 ... No Prepar3D.CFG there
Looking in "C:\Users\Junior\AppData\Roaming"
Found Prepar3D.CFG in "C:\Users\Junior\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\Prepar3D.CFG"
Now checking DLL.XML ...
... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC4 section.
... FSUIPC4 section already exists but will be replaced.
     (for FSUIPC4, without Loader)
... FSUIPC4 section of DLL.XML written okay
Now checking for a SimConnect.XML file ...
... No SimConnect.XML file found. This is okay.
Looking in "C:\Users\Public\AppData\Roaming"
 ... No Prepar3D.CFG there
"Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder already exists.
Now installing the Prepar3D SimConnect interface for FSUIPC4 into the "Modules" folder:
   Installed "SimConnectP3D2.dll" okay
Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder:
   Installed "FSUIPC4 User Guide.pdf" okay
   Installed "FSUIPC4 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay
   Installed "FSUIPC4 History.pdf" okay
   Installed "List of FSX and P3D controls.pdf" okay
   Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay
   Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay
   Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay
   Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay
   Installed "LuaFileSystem.pdf" okay
   Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay
   Installed "ASN WX Radar facilities in FSUIPC4.pdf" okay
   Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 737NGX.pdf" okay
   Installed "FSUIPC4 Offsets Status.pdf" okay
   Installed "Profiles in Separate Files.pdf" okay
 

I found out the directories lead to "D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X" when it shouldn't. I am still wondering how and why Microsoft Games isn't showing at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE when there are signs they exist there.

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There isnt really anyway to explain it without an error code. Is  there a log file somewhere that i can upload?

 

Well, the actual statement of the error would have been a good start. Why photograph text? Makes no sense.

 

If there was a Windows detected crash then there will be an entry in the windows Event Viewer. If FSUIPC actually ran at all, which isn't usual in these circumstances, there will be an FSUIPC4.LOG file in the FSX Modules folder.

 

Have you checked the FAQ subforum thread "FSX fails to run after FSUIPC4 first installed"?  That's where the most common loading problem, caused by SimConnect trust issues, is discussed at length.

 

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I got the new log file:

 

Looking in registry for FSX-SE install path:

     HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator - Steam Edition\10.0

     Parameter"SetupPath"

... >>>  OK! FOUND FSX-SE!  <<< ...

     SetupPath=D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\

 

...

I found out the directories lead to "D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X" when it shouldn't. I am still wondering how and why Microsoft Games isn't showing at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE when there are signs they exist there.

 

Yes, something evidently weird happened during your FSX S-E install? Best report this on the Steam FSX forum. Or are you using some sort of migration program which messes with paths and doesn't understand FSX-SE? Even the utilities designed to "fix" FSX registry pointers might do this, until they are fixed to recognise FSX-SE.

 

Meanwhile you'll need to delete the whole registry entry 

 

 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator - Steam Edition\10.0

     SetupPath=D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\

 

or maybe correct it. But since it isn't normally there it would be better to delete it.  (I checked on my PC, and it is correct in HKEY_CURRENT_USER, AppPath, as you found).

 

Pete

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Yes, something evidently weird happened during your FSX S-E install? Best report this on the Steam FSX forum. Or are you using some sort of migration program which messes with paths and doesn't understand FSX-SE? Even the utilities designed to "fix" FSX registry pointers might do this, until they are fixed to recognise FSX-SE.

 

Meanwhile you'll need to delete the whole registry entry 

 

 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator - Steam Edition\10.0

     SetupPath=D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\

 

or maybe correct it. But since it isn't normally there it would be better to delete it.  (I checked on my PC, and it is correct in HKEY_CURRENT_USER, AppPath, as you found).

 

Pete

I will report it to the Steam FSX forum (if I know where it is). BTW, I don't have a migration program (I don't know any). I don't know about deleting the registry as I couldn't find the registry in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. Is there a way I can see it?

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I will report it to the Steam FSX forum (if I know where it is). BTW, I don't have a migration program (I don't know any). I don't know about deleting the registry as I couldn't find the registry in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. Is there a way I can see it?

 

The Forum is accessible through the same Steam app you used to download / install / start FSX-SE. Check the right-hand side.

 

For registry editing, use Windows Start - Run. Type Regedit <ENTER> and you'll get an Explorer-type window where you can open up HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, then SOFTWARE ... and so on. When you find the entry above, just make sure it is highlighted and hit Delete.

 

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Is it the discussion area? If it is, I go to Technical Support?

About the regestries, the furthest I got to is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\. I couldn't find "Microsoft Games" anywhere. When I looked at it in alphabetical order, I only saw "Microsoft Antimalware Setup" and "Microsoft Reference", nothing in between. I am puzzles why it wasn't showing. I decided to look at "Lockheed Martin" at the same "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\" and strangely, I couldn't find it as well. I am aware they exist since the installer found it but regedit couldn't see them.

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