Jump to content
The simFlight Network Forums
Sign in to follow this  
ivanrk

NZHN SID's Wrong (Answered and solved)

Recommended Posts

Hi

 

I am preparing a flight from NZHN (Hamilton in New Zealand) to NZAA (Auckland International in NZ).  I am departing from RW 36R where the correct SID is TAYLA2.  However when I click on SID's I only have options with the Transitions already added which is not correct.  eg.  TAYLA2.OCNMA.  And this takes me on a route out into the ocean half way to Australia.  The same error occurs with RW 18L as you will see from the attached images.  I need to be able to select either TAYLA2 or BUDEN2 via SID's and the OCNE etc Transitions should only appear under the Transitions menu.  Is there a way I can edit the database to correct this myself or does it require an update from you?

 

Ivan :razz:

 

Attached later.

 

1.  FSX

2. FSUIPC free version only.

3.  FSCOmmander V9.6 rev 1.

4. Navigraph AIRAC 1410 rev 1.

5. Downloaded from your website.

6. Windows 7 64bit.

post-51195-0-30244000-1430385029.jpg

post-51195-0-09234900-1430385032_thumb.j

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Ivan,

if you think the NZHN data are incorrect, please contact the support of Navigraph.

 

Regards,

Volker

Hi Volker

 

I do not think the data is incorrect, I think it is the FSCommander program.  It seems to be adding the Transitions to the SID's in the dropdown menu.  If you think this sounds like a Navigraph problem I will certainly contact them.  The reason I don't think the problem is theirs is because the SID's, STAR's and Transitions are correct within the FMS when I set it up for the PMDG 737_800.

 

What do you think?

 

Ivan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Volker

 

I advised Navigraph of the problem who believe this is a problem with FSCOmmander.  Here are their replies to me:

 

"Hi Ivan,

I have now looked deeper into your report and I guess, this is a FSC limitation - There are no other possibilities to merge a SID/STAR with a transition in FSC - therefore the STAR.TRANS syntax. When I remove the trans part, it´s ok for your example but not when someone wants to fly to Australia or somewhere other than New Zealand. So, I have only one way - leave it or add it. In most of the addons (flightplanner or aircracts) you can select the STAR plus separately the transition - so you can select if you want to fly the STAR only, or STAR + TRANS ... that´s not possible in FSC. The only manual workaround is to add the waypoints manually or when Volker (FSC Developer) adds the possibility to select the transitions separately. Sorry, for that Ivan but in this case, we can´t do more ...

 

You´re welcome Ivan - possible I don´t know how, but the question for me is, how can I select a SID without a transition? I haven´t found any function to do this ... I can only select a runway + the SID.ENROUTETRANS but I can´t select the runway + the SID only without the .ENROUTETRANS. Again, yes I can remove the .ENROUTETRANS part but than is the question, how you can select a ENROUTETRANS after selecting the SID? Sorry, this is not clear for me ... I only see one possibility: selecting the runway + selecting the corresponding SID (when a ENROUTETRANS is availabe with the transition, when not without - but I have no choice when I want to fly the SID only, without using the ENROUTETRANS).


And yes, in PFPX you can select if you want to use the SID without or with TRANS, because there is a possibility to do this - in FSC, I don´t know this possibility:


Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Volker

 

Not sure I understand your reply that this is a limitation of FSC.  At most airports I am able to select both the SID and STARS with no Transitions and then select Transitions separately.  I am unable to do this at some of the NZ Airports such as NZHN.  Even though there is a submenu for Transitions nothing appears in it as the Transition is already attached to the SID.  Could you please explain in more detail what you mean by an FSC limitation and not a problem with FSC as it is certainly a problem for me trying to use FSC to fly out of NZHN.

 

Thanks

Ivan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Ivan,

a limitation of the FlightSim Commander is to display the data as they are delivered.

The FlightSim Commander can not confirm the accuracy.

If you urgently need a SID or Transition,  you can create your own route segments.

 

Regards,

Volker

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Ivan,

Navigraph has published a revision 2 of AIRAC data for the FLightSim Commander.

This revision corrects the problem with the SID's TAYLA2 and BUDEN2.

 

Regards,

Volker

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. Guidelines Privacy Policy We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.