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Folks,

On KPHX, should the displacement threshold on runway 8 be usable for "lineup and wait" conditions? If so, its not working. 1000 point crash condition.

As an example, on KSAN, I use the displacement threshold on runway 27 for "lineup and wait" conditions all the time. The landing aircraft flys over, landing after the threshold. Allowing an aircraft to be ready for takeoff as soon as the landing aircraft turns off the runway.

Thoughts?

 

 

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You would have to wait until the landing aircraft clears the threshold until you can clear a departing aircraft to line up and wait on the same runway. Not sure why the game allows this to happen at KSAN without a penalty as this would be a major violation in real life.

JP

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20 hours ago, Scar said:

Folks,

On KPHX, should the displacement threshold on runway 8 be usable for "lineup and wait" conditions? If so, its not working. 1000 point crash condition.

As an example, on KSAN, I use the displacement threshold on runway 27 for "lineup and wait" conditions all the time. The landing aircraft flys over, landing after the threshold. Allowing an aircraft to be ready for takeoff as soon as the landing aircraft turns off the runway.

Thoughts?

 

 

So, you think landing over another aircraft is OK? Are you an Air Canada pilot? 

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15 minutes ago, nyergesdesign said:

Hi Scar,

thank you for your note. Please describe this case with more details and attach screenshots about it.

Best regards,
Gabor

Gabor, this is definitely not an KPHX airport issue. If anything it is an issue at KSAN for allowing this to happen. 

Keep up the good work, Craig

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1 hour ago, crbascott said:

So, you think landing over another aircraft is OK? Are you an Air Canada pilot? 

Yes if there's a displacement

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Ok, good enough. Thou shalt not taxi on displacement threshold with overflying traffic. Got it. :-)

Answers my question.

 

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13 minutes ago, Scar said:

Ok, good enough. Thou shalt not taxi on displacement threshold with overflying traffic. Got it. :-)

Answers my question.

 

Good deal - got you squared away. ml0130 has me worried now! :)

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2 hours ago, Scar said:

Wait... So, yes its ok? Or isn't it? Please clarify.

Forget about the sim and think about it from a common sense & safety standpoint. It ain't safe! ATC is all about safety and separation.

 

 

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11 hours ago, FeelThere said:

Did you try using the line up behind the landing.. command?

 

Vic

Hi Vic! I think you and I may have talked on steam as well. (I'm scar on steam also)

 

Yes, I use the "line up and wait" command on the KSAN displacement threshold without any problems (I guess it doesn't mean its proper). But receive a 1000 point crash penalty when I use it on KHPX runway 8 displacement threshold. The "line up behind" command works fine. I'm hearing that I may have been pushing the envelope by using the displacement threshold for a wait spot during another landing.

Mark (scar)

 

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Its definently not safe,  if the landing aircraft has an emergency or undershoots due to pilot error or weather there is a high possibility of a collision 

 

Wayne

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