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KJFK - Push back issues

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I recently purchased JFK and there are major push back issues with terminal 2/3.

Is there a fix that didn't come with the latest JFK download?

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Sorry, I should have said terminals 2/4.

Pushing in circles, through buildings. Some will push, call for taxi instructions, then continue pushing in bizarre patterns. Some times it will take 5 minutes for a plane to line up properly to taxi.

 

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from the log, it it helps...

Example 1: 


16:10:14 * DLH401 => ADD HISTORY: DLH401:  Tower, LUFTHANSA 401 requesting push and start.
16:10:15 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * EDV5062 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING
16:10:15 alt: 0 takeoff: False/True/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * DAL43 => roadend!
16:10:15 alt: 0 takeoff: False/True/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * DAL43 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_TO_RUNWAY to STATE_TAKEOFFUP
16:10:16 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * JBU33 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING
16:10:17 * DAL45 => ADD HISTORY: DAL45 Successful takeoff. +10 pts
16:10:17 alt: 0 takeoff: True/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * DAL45 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_TAKEOFFUP to STATE_FLYAWAY
selcmd: #SELECT*DLH401%
SET PlANE: DLH401
CMDTREE: tree_ground_outgoing
16:10:18 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * QFA11 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING
16:10:18 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * QFA11 => Activate incoming plane.
16:10:18 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * BAW177 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING
16:10:19 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * EDV5286 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING
16:10:20 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * JBU268 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING
COMMAND: DLH401 PUSHBACK APPROVED, EXPECT RUNWAY 13R
16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_6 * DLH401 =>   PARSE CMD:  PUSHBACK APPROVED, EXPECT RUNWAY 13R
16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_6 r: 13R * DLH401 => GROUND,  roadcut: GROUND,  ONE THREE RIGHT  PUSHBACK APPROVED. 
16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_6 r: 13R * DLH401 => SAY: GROUND,  ONE THREE RIGHT  PUSHBACK APPROVED.  LUFTHANSA FOUR ZERO ONE
16:10:22 * DLH401 => ADD HISTORY: DLH401: GROUND,  13R PUSHBACK APPROVED. DLH401
16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_6 r: 13R * DLH401 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_WAITING to STATE_TO_RUNWAY
16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * DLH401 => Start calc route from: T1_6  start idx: 14
16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * DLH401 => Calc from: T1_6
16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * DLH401 => Route is: T1_6, MA, A, Q, MC, P, PF,   calculate time: 0.005249023s  highest count: 1497
16:10:22 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * DLH401 => Add trash

 

EXAMPLE 2:

 

16:20:00 * AFR23 => ADD HISTORY: AFR23:  Tower, AIR FRANCE 23 requesting push and start.
16:20:00 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * ENY3927 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING
16:20:00 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * VIR153 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING
16:20:01 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * BAW177 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING
16:20:03 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * DAL2218 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING
16:20:03 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * DAL2218 => Activate incoming plane.
selcmd: #SELECT*AFR23%
SET PlANE: AFR23
CMDTREE: tree_ground_outgoing
16:20:07 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * EDV5286 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING
16:20:07 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * AAL2448 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING
16:20:10 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * BAW177 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING
COMMAND: AFR23 PUSHBACK APPROVED, EXPECT RUNWAY 13R
16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_8 * AFR23 =>   PARSE CMD:  PUSHBACK APPROVED, EXPECT RUNWAY 13R
16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_8 r: 13R * AFR23 => GROUND,  roadcut: GROUND,  ONE THREE RIGHT  PUSHBACK APPROVED. 
16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_8 r: 13R * AFR23 => SAY: GROUND,  ONE THREE RIGHT  PUSHBACK APPROVED.  AIR FRANCE TWO THREE
16:20:10 * AFR23 => ADD HISTORY: AFR23: GROUND,  13R PUSHBACK APPROVED. AFR23
16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND t: T1_8 r: 13R * AFR23 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_WAITING to STATE_TO_RUNWAY
16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * AFR23 => Start calc route from: T1_8  start idx: 13
16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * AFR23 => Calc from: T1_8
16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * AFR23 => Route is: T1_8, MA, A, Q, MC, P, PF,   calculate time: 0.005615234s  highest count: 1497
16:20:10 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-1 OWNER_GROUND r: 13R * AFR23 => Add trash
16:20:12 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * EDV5286 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING
16:20:13 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER t: T5_3 r: 13L * JBU164 => road end
16:20:13 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER t: T5_3 r: 13L * JBU164 => start outgoing: JBU164
16:20:13 alt: 0 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER t: T5_3 r: 13L * JBU477 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_TO_TERMINAL to STATE_WAITING
16:20:15 alt: 6693 takeoff: False/False/-2 OWNER_TOWER r: 13L * ENY3927 => STATE CHANGE from STATE_INCOMING to STATE_INCOMING

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I will have to replay and take shots.

Problems appear to be

Terminal 1

4, 6 , 8

Planes will push, end up in weird positions then call for taxi. The tug stays attached.  After receiving instructions, the tugs keep pushing all over the place.

I had a plane push from gate 8 , circled, back and forth, through the building and out into the trees beside Q 

Terminal 2

C60 C61 C62 C63 C65 

Planes that park at C65 spin in circles and park backwards

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3 hours ago, dan_b said:

I will have to replay and take shots.

Problems appear to be

Terminal 1

4, 6 , 8

Planes will push, end up in weird positions then call for taxi. The tug stays attached.  After receiving instructions, the tugs keep pushing all over the place.

I had a plane push from gate 8 , circled, back and forth, through the building and out into the trees beside Q 

Terminal 2

C60 C61 C62 C63 C65 

Planes that park at C65 spin in circles and park backwards

Are you sure you have the most recent version of JFK installed?  There was an SP a while back and all of the things you are describing do not happen post-SP.  

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I purchased/downloaded on June 4.   I would assume it was the latest version.  Where do you find updates? I thought the downloads were already updated...

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Assuming your installer is KJFK_for_Tower3D_4.2a.exe then you have the current version. 

I believe all the troublesome gates/pushbacks (i.e., get stuck or collisions that cause point reductions) were corrected with the last release. However, I still do see a crazy pushback every once in a while but they are basically harmless at this point.

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