New user - guide needed for prepar3d

[garymccl]

Hi. 

I'm a new user for this product - it was recommended to me. The problem is there is a recommendation to disable the controllers in the prepar3d settings when fsuipc5 is installed. When I do that, my joystick completely stops working, and I can't find any documentation for fsuipc5 product at all. 

If I'm perfectly honest, I'm not sure what the product does, but I bought it because I was having trouble with an aircraft. Why does nothing work when I uncheck that box, and I have fsuipc5 installed? 

If really appreciate some help. 

Thanks, Gaz

[garymccl]

Sorry for not including the contents of the log files. The content of FSUIPC5.log is:

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********* FSUIPC5, Version 5.131 (17th May 2018) by Pete Dowson *********
Running inside Prepar3D v4
Module base=7FFCC0F90000
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit reported as Build 17134, Release ID: 1803 (OS 10.0)
Prepar3D.exe version = 4.2.21.24048
Reading options from "D:\Prepar3D v4\Modules\FSUIPC5.ini"
Checking the Registrations now ...
User Name="Gary McCluskey"
User Addr="garymccluskey1975@gmail.com"
FSUIPC5 Key is provided
WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired
       31 System time = 19/06/2018 20:16:12
       31 FLT path = "C:\Users\Gary\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\"
       31 Using PDK events
       31 Using DialogMode
       63 FS path = "D:\Prepar3D v4\"
      156 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan -----------------------
      172 Product= Logitech Extreme 3D
      172    Manufacturer= Logitech
      172    Vendor=046D, Product=C215 (Version 2.4)
      203    GUIDs returned for product: VID_046D&PID_C215:
      203       GUID= {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}
      203       Details: Btns=12, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R255,U0,V0,X1023,Y1023,Z255
      203 -------------------------------------------------------------------
      203 Device acquired for use:
      203    Joystick ID = 0 (Registry okay)
      203    0=Logitech Extreme 3D
      203    0.GUID={AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}
      203 -------------------------------------------------------------------
      234 LogOptions=00000000 00000001
      234 -------------------------------------------------------------------
      234 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay
      234 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay
    32828 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v4", Version: 4.2.21.24048 (SimConnect: 4.2.0.0)
    32828 Initialising SimConnect data requests now
    32828 FSUIPC Menu entry added
    32828 ... Using Prepar3D with Academic License
    32859 C:\Users\Gary\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Files\ALABEO - DA42 DHM 1.fxml
    32859 D:\Prepar3D v4\SimObjects\Airplanes\Alabeo DA42_Twin_Star\DA42.air
    78688 Loading Complete ...
    79563 Aircraft loaded: running normally now ...
    79578 User Aircraft ID 2 supplied, now being used
    80219 System time = 19/06/2018 20:17:32, Simulator time = 11:56:46 (10:56Z)
    80219 Aircraft="Alabeo DA42 Twin Star 1"
    81219 -------------------- Starting everything now ----------------------
    82344 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled
   171922 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 92 secs = 41.6 fps
   171922    Max AI traffic was 16 aircraft (Deleted 0)
   442156 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan -----------------------
   442172 Product= Logitech Extreme 3D
   442172    Manufacturer= Logitech
   442172    Vendor=046D, Product=C215 (Version 2.4)
   442188    GUIDs returned for product: VID_046D&PID_C215:
   442188       GUID= {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}
   442188       Details: Btns=12, POVs=(0, 0, 0, 0), Cal=x00000000, Max=R255,U0,V0,X1023,Y1023,Z255
   442188 -------------------------------------------------------------------
   442188 Device acquired for use:
   442188    Joystick ID = 0 (Registry okay)
   442188    0=Logitech Extreme 3D
   442188    0.GUID={AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}
   442188 -------------------------------------------------------------------
   572453 **** Restarting traffic scanning due to non-reception ****
   589734 **** Restarting traffic scanning due to non-reception ****
   646516 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 27 secs = 66.6 fps
   646516    Max AI traffic was 18 aircraft (Deleted 0)
   701656 **** Restarting traffic scanning due to non-reception ****
   771016 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 70 secs = 65.1 fps
   771016    Max AI traffic was 20 aircraft (Deleted 0)
   856313 **** Restarting traffic scanning due to non-reception ****
  1061891 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 198 secs = 57.7 fps
  1061891    Max AI traffic was 24 aircraft (Deleted 0)
  1074813 **** Restarting traffic scanning due to non-reception ****
  7836125 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 6762 secs = 65.3 fps
  7836125    Max AI traffic was 39 aircraft (Deleted 0)
 11063000 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 3058 secs = 22.4 fps
 11063000    Max AI traffic was 39 aircraft (Deleted 0)
 11064719 === Closing session: waiting for DLLStop to be called ...
 11076656 === DLLStop called ...
 11076656 === Closing external processes we started ...
 11077656 === About to kill any Lua plug-ins still running ...
 11077797 === Closing global Lua thread
 11078813 === About to kill my timers ...
 11079016 === Restoring window procs ...
 11079016 === Unloading libraries ...
 11079016 === stopping other threads ...
 11079016 === ... Button scanning ...
 11079109 === ... Axis scanning ...
 11079219 === Releasing joystick devices ...
 11079219 === Freeing macro memory
 11079219 === Removing any offset overrides
 11079219 === Clearing any displays left
 11079219 === NOTE: not calling SimConnect_Close ...
 11079219 === AI slots deleted!
 11079219 === Freeing button memory ...
 11079219 === Closing my Windows ...
 11079219 === Freeing FS libraries ...
 11080219 === Closing devices ...
 11080219 === Closing the Log ... Bye Bye! ...
 11080219 System time = 19/06/2018 23:20:52, Simulator time = 12:42:19 (11:42Z)
 11080219 *** FSUIPC log file being closed
Minimum frame rate was 17.3 fps, Maximum was 86.8 fps
Average frame rate for running time of 10234 secs = 52.2 fps
Maximum AI traffic for session was 39 aircraft
Memory managed: 4827 Allocs, 4826 Freed
********* FSUIPC Log file closed ***********

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The content of FSUIPC5.Joyscan.csv is as follows (since the joystick is not working when I rely on FSUIPC, this may be the most important:

Good?, flags, VID, PID, Name, INIid, REGid, RegEntry, INIguid, REGguid, HIDguid, ValsOK?, ReadsOk?

,,, HIDscanning completed

N, x00, x046D, xC215, , -1, -1, 0, {NULL}, {NULL}, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, Y, N

,,, REGscanning completed

N, x00, x046D, xC215, Logitech Extreme 3D, -1, 0, 0, {NULL}, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, Y, Y

,,, User settings imported

N, x00, x046D, xC215, Logitech Extreme 3D, 0, 0, 0, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, Y, Y

,,, Values matched and decided

Y, x1E, x046D, xC215, Logitech Extreme 3D, 0, 0, 0, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, {AF01B130-1D6B-11E8-8001-444553540000}, Y, Y

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The content of the Prepar3d v4\DLL.xml file is as follows, even though FSUIPC appears in the Addons menu in P3D:

 

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="WINDOWS-1252"?>
-<SimBase.Document version="1,0" Type="Launch">
<Descr>Launch</Descr>
<Filename>dll.xml</Filename>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>
-<Launch.Addon>
<Name>Carenavigraph</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<Path>.\Carenavigraph.dll</Path>
</Launch.Addon>
-<Launch.Addon>
<Name>CMeteoXml</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<Path>.\CMeteoXml.dll</Path>
</Launch.Addon>
-<Launch.Addon>
<Name>FSUIPC 5</Name>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<Path>D:\Prepar3D v4\Modules\FSUIPC5.dll</Path>
</Launch.Addon>
</SimBase.Document>

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Finally, the Install log is here:

Installer for FSUIPC5.DLL version 5.131

Looking in registry for Prepar3D v4 install path:
     HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4
     Parameter"AppPath"
... >>>  OK! FOUND Prepar3D v4!  <<< ...
     AppPath=D:\Prepar3D v4\
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INSTALLATION FOR Prepar3D v4:
AppPath="D:\Prepar3D v4\"
Checking version of the Prepar3D v4 EXE:
... Version 4.2.21.24048  (Need at least 4.1.0.0)
Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC5 installed as:
       D:\Prepar3D v4\Modules\FSUIPC5.DLL
... Version 5.131 found.
D:\Prepar3D v4\Modules folder already exists.
Okay -- installed FSUIPC5 into "D:\Prepar3D v4\Modules\FSUIPC5.DLL"
Looking for the current user's Application Data path: 
... found as "C:\Users\Gary\AppData\Roaming"
Now finding \Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Prepar3D.CFG for all users, including this one
Looking in "C:\Users\All Users\AppData\Roaming"
 ... No Prepar3D.CFG there
Looking in "C:\Users\Default\AppData\Roaming"
 ... No Prepar3D.CFG there
Looking in "C:\Users\Default User\AppData\Roaming"
 ... No Prepar3D.CFG there
Looking in "C:\Users\Gary\AppData\Roaming"
Found Prepar3D.CFG in "C:\Users\Gary\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Prepar3D.CFG"
Now checking DLL.XML ...
... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC5 section.
... FSUIPC5 section already exists but will be replaced.
... FSUIPC5 section of DLL.XML written okay
Now checking for a SimConnect.XML file ...
... No SimConnect.XML file found. This is okay.
Looking in "C:\Users\Public\AppData\Roaming"
 ... No Prepar3D.CFG there
"Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder already exists.
Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder:
   Installed "FSUIPC5 User Guide.pdf" okay
   Installed "FSUIPC5 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay
   Installed "The 2016 List of FSX and P3D Controls.pdf" okay
   Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay
   Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay
   Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay
   Installed "LuaFileSystem.pdf" okay
   Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay
   Installed "FSUIPC4 Offsets Status.pdf" okay
   Installed "Profiles in Separate Files.pdf" okay
   Installed "FSUIPC5 History.pdf" okay
   Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay
   Installed "ASN WX Radar facilities in FSUIPC4.pdf" okay
   Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 737NGX.pdf" okay
   Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 777X.pdf" okay
   Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 747QOTSII.pdf" okay
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All installer tasks completed.
Registration dialog exit: selected  FSUIPC REGISTER
Providing FSUIPC registration dialogue ...
Registration for FSUIPC5 was successful! (result code 00)

*************** End of Install Log ***************
 

[Pete Dowson]

3 hours ago, garymccl said:

I'm a new user for this product - it was recommended to me. The problem is there is a recommendation to disable the controllers in the prepar3d settings when fsuipc5 is installed

No. not necessary. That's ONLY if you intend to assign joysticks and buttons in FSUIPC instead of P3D. You can't do it in both, there will be conflicts!

3 hours ago, garymccl said:

When I do that, my joystick completely stops working, and I can't find any documentation for fsuipc5 product at all. 

Where did you get FSUIPC5 from? If you downloaded the official ZIP then it contains an Installation document which tells you clearly where everything is, especially documentation - i.e. in the FSUIPC Documents folder, in the Sim's Modules folder.

3 hours ago, garymccl said:

If I'm perfectly honest, I'm not sure what the product does, but I bought it

Ouch! Best never to buy anything without knowing why!  Quite honestly, if you don't know what you want to use it for it is a waste of your good money!

3 hours ago, garymccl said:

because I was having trouble with an aircraft.

I don't knwo why do you thought FSUIPC would help. Did you ask the suppot for that aircraft for help first?

3 hours ago, garymccl said:

Why does nothing work when I uncheck that box, and I have fsuipc5 installed? 

Sorry, i've no idea what this is about. If you mean you disabled controllers, then unless you've already assigned your controls in FSUIPC then of course they are now disabled! Please just don't do it until you know what you are doing.

There is actually rarely any need at all to assign controls in FSUIPC. It is for folks who want different assignments for different aircraft types. Is that you?

Good luck, and hope yuou find the real answers to you aircraft problems. Maybe describing those here, or better, in the relevant AVSIM Forum, might elicit specific help for it?

Pete

 

[Pete Dowson]

11 minutes ago, garymccl said:

Sorry for not including the contents of the log files.

Thanks for all those. But i don't know what your problem is, so they are really not of use at present.

Pete

 

[garymccl]

Thanks for getting back to me, Pete.

The reason I bought this product is that I'm having trouble with the Alabeo DA42 aircraft. While flying other aircraft is fine, I feel like I'm in a roller coast with that, despite the fact that the weather is set to just Fair.  I posted on another forum for some help, and one guy said: "I use FSUIPC to "curve" my control responses - if you are not using FSUIPC, I cannot recommend it highly enough". So I guess you have a fan there! 😉

Again, thanks for getting back to me,

Gaz

[Pete Dowson]

7 hours ago, garymccl said:

I use FSUIPC to "curve" my control responses - if you are not using FSUIPC, I cannot recommend it highly enough".

Ok. You can do that all through the Calibration of the controls Ailerons and Elevators. Don’t disable controllers in the Sim, don’t assign in FSUIPC, for now at least.

Read the chapter in the User Guide on Calibration, and follow the numbered steps there. Then make response curve adjustments in the Slopes option there until you get a good result. 

Maybe your adviser can actually tell you the slope values he uses?

Pete

 

 

[garymccl]

Brilliant, I really appreciate you getting back to me. 

Gaz