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good evening,

i can't activate APP mode when i am in HDG mode, i can only activate APP when i am in NAV mode.

is this a real things?

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I has a similar situation the other night and i think i ended up switching to V/L rather than FMS to get it in HDG mode in in FMS with LNAVon it will do it as long as you tune it. I dont think the aircraft auto tunes the ILS freq like the A320's but someone let me know if im wrong.

 

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I had an issue too.

I was using HDG, then switched to V/L, LOC1 with green was displayed on the bottom of the PFD (HSI), ILS freq and course was set by me OK, but when  I pressed the APP HDG was blinking and LNAV was under HDG, no LOC/GS mode... I landed using the green dots for ILS in the end...but I could not arm the LOC/GS, only LNAV was displayed under HDG even if I pressed V/L.

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8 minutes ago, FeelThere said:

Please post an FLT file right when it happens so we can re-create it.

 

Thank you

 

Vic

I will do more flights and if it will happen again will post the FLT file.

(The flight plane where I had issues was EDDM KIRDI2E KIRDI DCT MEDEL DCT STEIN DCT NARKA Z650 ATSOS ATSOS1F LRCL, ILS rwy 25)

At EBILO the E195 lost also the LNAV, it made a wrong turn.

g3XeFMT.jpg

 

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Yesterday I did some tests by doing patterns at EDDM, with LNAV mode (FMS1) to switch to LOC/GS and also with HDG mode to switch to LOC/GS (using V/L and radio NAV) and both were OK, I need to redo that trouble flight to see if it happens again. If yes, I will come back with the .flt file.  I need to be sure that it was also not a mistake on my side.

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2 hours ago, vali said:

Yesterday I did some tests by doing patterns at EDDM, with LNAV mode (FMS1) to switch to LOC/GS and also with HDG mode to switch to LOC/GS (using V/L and radio NAV) and both were OK, I need to redo that trouble flight to see if it happens again. If yes, I will come back with the .flt file.  I need to be sure that it was also not a mistake on my side.

We appreciate your reply and especially your professional attitude.

Happy holidays

 

Vic

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4 hours ago, FeelThere said:

We appreciate your reply and especially your professional attitude.

Happy holidays

 

Vic

Hello Vic,

Thanks for the kind words, happy holidays too!

I did the flight again, this time I've updated also the AIRAC from Navigraph to the actual cycle.

Flight plan was: EDDM KIRDI3S KIRDI DCT MEDEL DCT STEIN DCT NARKA Z650 ATSOS ATSOS1E LRCL and then on cruise I switched to ATSOS1F (so from initial planned rwy 07 to the rwy 25, this I did also last time).

Some notes:

1. when I planned the flight I noticed that one waypoint was at 1890nm from the previous one , this was automatically so inserted during selection of the arrival. I noticed that, after I deleted that waypoint and when I manually introduced it, was then fine. Look at AXUTA in the screenshot:

WNJKPq7.jpg

 

2. After AXUTA was corrected, the radial (282 degrees to intercept, D282I) was far away, see the screenshot below (the FL I corrected manually based on charts afterwards):

pHepBJh.jpg

 

3. The problem this time was after EBILO at the radial intercept, see the screenshot below, it goes right ignoring LNAV (and also I attached the FLT files, e195_002 are before the waypoint, e195_003 are after turning).

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1su317t6SSWfT5ObON1zQbJMu58D3dTeo

Perhaps is something wrong with the definition.

msE2vJZ.jpg

 

4. I switched then to HDG mode, to do the arrival manually,  then to V/L and APP and this time this was OK, landed in good conditions.

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13 minutes ago, Fernando G said:

This happens too in all airports of Mexico.

have you tried a US airport? tyring to figure if there is a Navigraph database problem.

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17 minutes ago, Marcofo3 said:

I have the same problem. After the ATC vectoring HDG don’t switch to APP

all the time?  specific airport?  which aircraft(s)?

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58 minutes ago, Fernando G said:

Yes, has been checked in some US airports and all si fine, the v2 had the same problem.

??? you write 'all is fine' and then 'same problem'.  Is the plane approaches working for you outside of Mexico???

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