Retro RC, Vote for your favourite liveries to be created

[blacklabelbraai]

On 1/24/2020 at 4:54 AM, hexzed said:

38 voters so far, let's get it to at least 40 😋

Up to 42 now woohoo!

[hexzed]

1 more day to go!

Just a FYI, i am away this weekend so the final list will not be compiled until Monday my time

 

Ben

[hexzed]

So all votes are in 

Results are:

USA Airlines

America West Airlines A320          17 Votes

USAF/Air Force 1 B747-200          17 Votes

Aloha Airlines B737-700                 16 Votes

American Airlines DC10                 16 Votes

Northwest Airlines B747-200        15 Votes

Western Airlines B737-200            15 Votes

Southern Airways DC-9                   14 Votes

There was an 8 way tie for 7th place, Southern Airways won due to being defunct the longest, as per the stated rule

Rest of the world Airlines

KLM MD-11                                      24 Votes

Canadian Airlines Int B767-300    19 Votes

Qantas B707-300                            19 Votes

Air Canada L1011 Tristar               17 Votes

Ansett Australia B747-400             17 Votes

British Airways B747-200               17 Votes

Air France Concorde                        16 Votes

Lufthansa B767-300                        16 Votes

Lufthansa/Air France won the 15th place due to most votes between the 2 eighth place positions

 

I will hold off on sending the final list to Gabor for 24 hours, so any questions can be asked or if i have made any mistakes they can be corrected

Ben

[EliGrim]

Air Force One is in and we're getting a second livery for the Concorde. I couldn't be happier and I hope very much that there will be no more changes in the result! 😉

[bartccost]

When I think "retro" this list is not what comes to mind, but I guess the people have spoken. Can all 42 who voted be considered internet influencers? 😀

[Pedantic G]

6 hours ago, bartccost said:

When I think "retro" this list is not what comes to mind, but I guess the people have spoken. Can all 42 who voted be considered internet influencers? 😀

Ha ha bartman...yep agree and dummy spitting out time as no iconic BOAC! Obviously not enough Brits on the forum who voted! 😜

[Edwin1970]

For the KLM MD-11 you should use this colorscheme in stead of the one of your link, as it's a retro pack:

 

https://www.airliners.net/photo/KLM-Royal-Dutch-Airlines/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-11/597589

[hexzed]

13 minutes ago, Edwin1970 said:

For the KLM MD-11 you should use this colorscheme in stead of the one of your link, as it's a retro pack:

 

https://www.airliners.net/photo/KLM-Royal-Dutch-Airlines/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-11/597589

As that livery was the one submitted and voted for, I believe it would be unfair for me to change it now.

[hexzed]

Final list has now been passed onto Gabor 🙂

Ben

[ashman99]

It looked like a close race on both ends. US list had a 8 way tie. I was curious if any last votes would push any of those up. Guess not. KLM took lead fast and stayed lead the entire time. It's the only one that had a significant gap between another livery. I'm happy with the results. I might not use all of them but I might use most. 🙂

[ATC AlaskaGuy]

not enough airlines with L1011 in my book but oh well not sure i will buy this as there isn't enough airlines in this so I'm out

[707FAN]

I was a little dissapointed also or perhaps I was under the misconception of Retro meaning older types and airlines and types not seen today.

I was looking forward to constructing a  custom timetable based on the late 60's &  70's  with heaps of Pan Am & TWA 707's, BOAC VC10's, DC8's and  various early 747 operators , Eastern & Delta L1011 etc, all operating out of airports like JFK, SFO etc. Considering that most of the airports  modelled in Tower are US airports., I thought that more older US operators would get higher votes.

For Europe, inclding the UK the likes of Lufthansa 707;s 747-200;s etc would be more prominant. All BOAC types as well.

I don't understand the Ansett 747-400 getting so many votes as they only operated out of one airport (YMML) that is modelled in Tower.

I guess my aviation memory goes back to far these days.

I await the flack 🤢

Kev M

 

 

[hexzed]

That is the issue with democracy i guess, nobody is 100% happy.

The other point is that depending on how old you are, retro means different things

Don't forget also the 25 original airlines from @EliGrim

[ATC AlaskaGuy]

i would have liked to see Eastern L1011 to me retro means airlines that are no longer around and not airlines that are still here today that is what it should have been so because that isn't what this is going to be i am not paying for this so like I said I am out.

[hexzed]

Hmm that's interesting because you submitted over 10 liveries for Airlines that still exist, and 3 of the ones you submitted were selected 🤔

[707FAN]

@ATC AlaskaGuy  @hexzed

Only an opinion. I'll keep out of it.

Kev M

 

 

 

[bartccost]

Hopefully more than the 42 people that voted buy it. Otherwise, ND is only looking at about a $300 payday. 🤑

[EliGrim]

I would have liked a slightly different outcome as well, but I think in the final list there will be something in for everyone.
Here it is, with no guarantee of correctness:

Airline	Aircraft	entered	ceased*
Southern Airways	DC-9	1944	1979	Sample image
Air Florida	B737-200	1971	1985	Sample image
Northeastern Intl Airways	A300	1982	1986	Sample image
Western Airlines	B737-200	1926	1987	Sample image
New York Air	DC-9	1980	1987	Sample image
Independent Air	B707-300	1966	1990	Sample image
Pan American World Airways	B747-100	1927	1991	Sample image
Skyworld Airlines	B707-300	1986	1992	Sample image
Key Airlines	B727-200	1969	1993	Sample image
Morris Air	B737-300	1948	1994	Sample image
MarkAir	B737-400	1946	1995	Sample image
Rich International Airways	L1011	1969	1996	Sample image
American International Airways	B727-200	1967	1997	Sample image
Wings West Airlines	SWM	1979	1998	Sample image
Kiwi International Airlines	B727-200	1992	1999	Sample image
Eastwind Airlines	B737-200	1995	1999	Sample image
Reeve Aleutian Airways	B727-100	1932	2000	Sample image
Trans Continental Airlines	DC-8-60	1972	2000	Sample image
Tower Air	B747-200	1983	2000	Sample image
Trans World Airlines	B747-100	1925	2001	Sample image
Emery Worldwide	DC-8-70	1946	2001	Sample image
Canadian Airlines International	B767-300	1987	2001	Sample image
Ansett Australia	B747-400	1936	2002	Sample image
Concorde (British Airways)	Concorde	1976	2003	Sample image
Concorde (Air France)	Concorde	1976	2003	Sample image
Air Vegas	C402	1971	2004	Sample image
Zantop International Airlines	L-188	1972	2005	Sample image
Contract Air Cargo	CV-340	1983	2005	Sample image
America West Airlines	A320	1983	2005	Sample image
TransMeridian Airlines	B757-200	1995	2005	Sample image
Aloha Airlines	B737-700	1956	2008	Sample image
ATA Airlines	B737-800	1973	2008	Sample image
Northwest Airlines	B747-200	1934	2010	Sample image
KLM	MD-11	1919		Sample image
Qantas	B707-300	1921		Sample image
American Airlines	DC10	1936		Sample image
Air Canada	L1011	1937		Sample image
Air Force One (USAF)	B747-200	1953		Sample image
Lufthansa	B767-300	1955		Sample image
British Airways	B747-200	1974		Sample image
* or merged, or rebranded

I hope it's okay for @hexzed and @nyergesdesign that I post this list. I guess so, because it's no secret.

[hexzed]

No that's ok. As intended with the vote, full disclosure so everyone knows what is going on. I would also like to say I have no issue with comments or constructive criticism on here. Sensible discussion is welcome.

If anyone has any ideas for improving the way that future updates are handled, those comments are also welcome as well 😊

[crbascott]

No issues on my end. For democracy to succeed you need participation. Unfortunately for all the RC updates where the community has been involved, for whatever reason participation has been lacking. 

I have my thoughts but I’ll keep them to myself. Don’t want the thread to get deleted. 😉

[ATC AlaskaGuy]

i didnt think about this at the time of voting, maybe what should have been voted on was retro airlines with  heavy aircraft, and retro airlines that where airlines with not heavy type aircraft.

[ashman99]

12 hours ago, ATC AlaskaGuy said:

i didnt think about this at the time of voting, maybe what should have been voted on was retro airlines with  heavy aircraft, and retro airlines that where airlines with not heavy type aircraft.

Ehh I'd have to disagree with that mainly because even though I enjoy seeing Heavys fly in, most airports in game can't handle only heavys so to have a mixture of both various aircraft sizes helps fill gates to see a variety. Plus, if you had that vote in the poll and only one aircraft type was nominated, you might get fewer people voting. Having a variety allowed more people to vote whether we liked the results at the end or not.

[hexzed]

12 hours ago, ATC AlaskaGuy said:

i didnt think about this at the time of voting, maybe what should have been voted on was retro airlines with  heavy aircraft, and retro airlines that where airlines with not heavy type aircraft.

Kind of a moot point now

[ATC AlaskaGuy]

i know right

[ashman99]

I'm sure with everything that has been going on this thread has probably been put on the back burner. But with the recent update from @FeelThere about the new Honolulu airport in the works. I remembered about the Aloha 737 getting selected and thought it would be a cool airline to see once PHNL gets released. Any news on when the retro list will get released?