Psybear2 1 Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Hi Simon, While at LEMD-Barrajas, I noticed an AI Qatar A350 A7ALP taxing out for takeoff with the engines in reverse. I mentioned this on the AIG forums and they suggested it might be something awry with STB. It's strange because I only have noticed this with this particular aircraft. Anyway, posting just to make you aware, not finger pointing.😉 Clayton https://www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=33770.0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flying-w 78 Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 This is STB working as designed and configured. STB sends a "deploy a bit of flaps for takeoff" command at the start of taxi-out, this was done long before any AI packages had the capability to do so independently. The amount of flaps is set in the aircraft config section of the STB Settings Notebook (simulator "flap handle position", which can be 0 through 6). For most aircraft I supply pre-packaged configurations for, this is 2 or 3. However for some AI models, flaps are linked to other systems such as reverse thrust. I don't know why that is, but whatever the reason you need change the flaps handle value in STB to zero for the aircraft concerned. If you can tell me the exact type and model as STB understands it I can update the source material. Thanks Simon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psybear2 1 Posted May 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 Unfortunately I didn't take a screenshot but I think it's this model: Airbus A350 AIGAIM_FSP_A350-900 AIGAIM_Qatar Airways Airbus A350-900 When I can, I'll try to recreate the situation and repost what STB sees Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flying-w 78 Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 I'm adding a setting to enable/disable the AI departure flaps command in the next update. The best way is to configure the departure flaps handle setting for individual aircraft, but this setting will globally enable or disable the capability. If this is happening a lot in your AI package, it might be worth switching off entirely. I don't remember anything specific, but I'm sure I've seen some AI models that do departure flaps without needing STB to help out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psybear2 1 Posted June 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 Agreed. A small amount of AI have this issue. I'll just zero them down on an individual basis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flying-w 78 Posted June 3, 2020 Report Share Posted June 3, 2020 I tested informally, and I observed the B772 and A346 showing the problem. Both are the freeware versions of the AI models I think. Will need to do a more complete test of the major models and make some config changes, but please contribute anything you find as well. The "Depart Now" command is very helpful here for looking at particular models. Thanks Simon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
holi 0 Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 Hi Simon, For most Aircraft which had this behaviour I could solve it by setting the Flap handle to 2 or 3 in P3Dv5. Unortunately I´m not able to get the FSPAIX A330-900 right. This Aircraft is deploying the spoilers only during taxi. I tried all settings from 0-3 but no success. Without STB the Aircraft is doing well. Is there anything else I could do? Thanks Holger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flying-w 78 Posted July 12, 2020 Report Share Posted July 12, 2020 Send me a verbose trace with the 0 setting please Thanks Simon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.