Ircghost Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 Hi, I have recently tried to use FSUIPC for my connection to external programs. FSE to start with. As such I have downloaded the latest version and installed it. However, even since installing it I cannot start MSFS anymore. It gets stuck on the initial loading screen with a black screen. No matter how long I wait (unless I need to wait an hour maybe), it doesn't load through. As soon as I uninstall FSUIPC it works just fine. This is without any programs that are on the receiving end (i.e. STKP, FSE) are turned on. When installing the program again, I paid special attention to not enable FSUIPC auto start. However, it still seems to be enabled or something. As it is clearly frustrating the boot up. I have also tried: -to start MSFS through FSUIPC. - To start FSUIPC then MSFS It is installed outside of program files. Don't really know how to solve this. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dowson Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Ircghost said: It gets stuck on the initial loading screen with a black screen. So its not getting as far as loading FSUIPC7 no? If its stuck in the loading screen, its usually due to something in your MSFS Community folder. Did you install the FSUIPC7 WASM module? Maybe try without that - no need to reinstall, just move the fsuipc-lvar-module folder outside of the Community folder. Do you have anything else in there? If moving the WASM module out of the Community folder solves your issue, please show me your InstallFSUIPC7.log file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ircghost Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) Thank you for your quick reply! I have removed all items in my community folder during debugging. That's how I eventually singled out FSUIPC. It does actually show the FSUIPC logo during that load. So currently I get the rhino loading picture, black screen, FSUIPC logo, black screen and nothing ness. I will try to remove the WASM module and try again. My install log is included (I just reinstalled without WASM.) InstallFSUIPC7.log Edited August 16, 2021 by Ircghost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ircghost Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) Update With your suggestion, disabling the WASM module, it is indeed able to start just fine! Do you wish to debug this situation further? I currently do not have a need for LVARS (I think). But if you wish to understand to situation better, I'm happy to help! Mark Edited August 16, 2021 by Ircghost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dowson Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, Ircghost said: With your suggestion, disabling the WASM module, it is indeed able to start just fine! Do you wish to debug this situation further? I currently do not have a need for LVARS (I think). But if you wish to understand to situation better, I'm happy to help! Please re-install again, this time with the WASM selected for install, and try again. If it doesn't work, show me your new install log, and manually move the WASM folder out of your Community folder of it doesn't work (rather than uninstall/reinstall). Also, show me your FSUIPC_WASM.log file, if there is one - it will be under your AppData\Roaming\Microsoft Flight Simulator\Packages\fsuipc-lvar-module folder. I am not sure why it is running with the WASM installed, very strange. This was reported before, but a re-installation solved the issue last time. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniek45 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 (edited) Hello My Lvars FBW is empty My FSUIPC the WASM module is grayed out except the Disable button An idea? FSUIPC7 Installer v0.9.17 pour v7.2.6 Exécution dans le dossier 'C:\Users\jim24\Downloads\Install_FSUIPC7 (6)\Install_FSUIPC7' Détermination des détails de l'installation... Emplacement du dossier d'installation : C:\FSUIPC7 Emplacement du dossier Documents : C:\ Users\jim24\OneDrive\Documents\FSUIPC7 Détermination du dossier de la communauté pour le fichier d' installation de MS Store C:\Users\jim24\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\UserCfg.opt ouvert OK Le dossier de la communauté est : C:\Users\ jim24\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\Packages\Community\OriginalInstallDir =, FSUIPCInstalled = 0, InstallDocumentsLocation = 😄 \ Users \ jim24 \ onedrive \ Documents \ FSUIPC7, CommunityFolderLocation = 😄 \ Users \ jim24 \ AppData \ s locales \ packages Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe \ LocalCache \ Forfaits \ Communauté \ répertoire d'installation par défaut est 'C:\FSUIPC7' Dossier de sortie : C:\FSUIPC7 Installation de FSUIPC7.exe dans C:\FSUIPC7. Extrait : FSUIPC7.exe... Installation à 100 % de FSUIPC7.exe terminée. L'ajout de FSUIPC7 démarre automatiquement le MSFS EXE.xml. Mise à jour d'EXE.XML pour l'installation de MS Store Erreur de chargement du fichier EXE.xml : C:\Users\jim24\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\EXE.xml **** Le démarrage automatique de FSUIPC7 avec MSFS ne fonctionnera pas être activé ******** Pour résoudre, supprimez ou renommez ce fichier et réinstallez : C:\Users\jim24\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\EXE.xml**** Installation du module FSUIPC7 WASM dans C : \Users\jim24\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\Packages\Community\. Créer un dossier : C:\Users\jim24\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\Packages\Community\\fsuipc-lvar-module Dossier de sortie : C:\Users\jim24\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft. FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\Packages\Community\\fsuipc-lvar-module Extrait : layout.json... 100% Extrait : manifest.json... 100% Extrait : FSUIPC_WASM.ini... 100%Créer le dossier : C:\Users\jim24\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\Packages\Community\\fsuipc-lvar-module\modules Dossier de sortie : C:\Users\jim24\AppData\Local\Packages\ Microsoft.FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\Packages\Community\\fsuipc-lvar-module\modules Extrait : FSUIPC7_WASM.wasm... Extrait à 100 % : A320.hvar... Extrait à 100 % : TBM.hvar... Extrait à 100 % : DA40-NG.hvar... 100% extrait : DA40 TDI.hvar... 100% extrait : DA62.hvar... 100% extrait : Skyhawk.hvar... 100% FSUIPC7 Installation du module WASM terminée. Installation des manuels d'utilisation... Dossier de sortie : C:\Users\jim24\OneDrive\Documents\FSUIPC7 Extrait : Installation et enregistrement de FSUIPC7.pdf... 100%Extrait : FSUIPC7 pour les utilisateurs avancés.pdf... 100 % extrait : FSUIPC7 History.pdf... 100 % extrait : FSUIPC7 Offsets Status.pdf... 100 % extrait : FSUIPC7 User Guide.pdf... 100 % extrait : Profils dans des fichiers séparés.pdf... 100% Dossier de sortie : C:\Users\jim24\Downloads\Install_FSUIPC7 (6)\Install_FSUIPC7 Créer un raccourci : C:\FSUIPC7\ Documents.lnk Raccourci de documents créé : C:\FSUIPC7\Documents Manuels de l'utilisateur FSUIPC7 installés dans C:\Users\jim24\OneDrive\Documents\FSUIPC7. Installation de la documentation Lua... Dossier de sortie : C:\Users\jim24\OneDrive\Documents\FSUIPC7 Extrait : FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf... Extrait à 100 % : FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf... Extrait à 100 % : Lua Licence.pdf... 100%Extrait : Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf... 100 % Extrait : LuaFileSystem.pdf... 100 % Extrait : Exemple LUA plugins.zip... 100 % Dossier de sortie : C:\Users\jim24\Downloads\Install_FSUIPC7 ( 6)\Install_FSUIPC7 FSUIPC7 Lua Documents installés dans C:\Users\jim24\OneDrive\Documents\FSUIPC7. Installation du SDK... Créer le dossier : C:\FSUIPC7\SDK Dossier du SDK créé : C:\FSUIPC7\SDK Dossier de sortie : C:\FSUIPC7\SDK Extraire : FSUIPC feedback control.txt... Extrait à 100 % : FSUIPC pour les programmeurs .pdf... Extrait à 100 % : FSUIPC_User_Lib_for_VC_2010.zip Extrait : FSUIPCDotNetClient2.4.zip... Extrait à 100 % : Bibliothèque pour les utilisateurs internes de FS.zip... Extrait à 100 % : Module_User_lib_for_VC_2010.zip... 100 %Extrait : ModuleUser64.zip... Extrait à 100 % : Nouvelle interface météo pour FS2004.zip... Extrait à 100 % : NewWeather.h... Extrait à 100 % : ReadMe.txt... Extrait à 100 % : UIPC_RealBasic_SDK.zip. .. Extrait à 100 % : UIPC_SDK_ASM.zip... Extrait à 100 % : UIPC_SDK_BCB5.zip... Extrait à 100 % : UIPC_SDK_C.zip... Extrait à 100 % : UIPC_SDK_.NET_(C#,VB.NET).txt.. Extrait à 100 % : UIPC_SDK_Delphi.zip... Extrait à 100 % : UIPC_SDK_JAVA.zip... Extrait à 100 % : UIPC_SDK_JAVA_64bit.zip... Extrait à 100 % : UIPC_SDK_MFC.zip... Extrait à 100 % : UIPC_SDK_Python.zip.. 100% Extrait : UIPC_SDK_VisualBasic.zip... 100% Extrait : UIPC64_SDK_C_version2.zip... 100% Extrait : UIPCAWI.zip... 100%Extrait : FSUIPC_Java_SDK_by_Mouseviator_v1_with_C_Libs.zip... 100% Extrait : FSUIPC_Java_SDK_by_Mouseviator_v1_NO_C_Libs.zip... 100% Installation du SDK terminée. Installation de HidScanner... Dossier de sortie : C:\FSUIPC7\Utils Extrait : HidScanner.exe... 100% HidScanner installé dans C:\FSUIPC7\Utils Installation de FS-Interrogate 2... Dossier de sortie : C:\FSUIPC7\Utils Extrait : FSInterrogate2std.exe... 100% ignoré : FSUIPC.FSI FS-Interrogate 2 installé dans C:\FSUIPC7\Utils Dossier de sortie : C:\Users\jim24\OneDrive\Documents\FSUIPC7 Extrait : FSI2 Manual.pdf.. .100 % FS-Interrogate 2 User'Manual installé dans C:\Users\jim24\OneDrive\Documents\FSUIPC7Installation de FS-Interrogate 2 terminée. Installation de WebSocket Server... Dossier de sortie : C:\FSUIPC7\Utils Extrait : FSUIPCWebSocketServer.exe... 100 % ignoré : FSUIPCWebSocketServer.exe.config WebSocket Server installé dans C:\FSUIPC7\Utils Installation des fichiers d'événements MobiFlight... Créer dossier : C:\FSUIPC7\EventFiles Dossier EventFiles créé : C:\FSUIPC7\EventFiles Dossier de sortie : C:\FSUIPC7\EventFiles Extrait : A32X-FBW1.evt... Extrait à 100 % : A32X-FBW2.evt... 100 % extrait : AS3x-G1000.evt... 100 % extrait : ASCRJ.evt... 100 % extrait : Asobo-A320.evt... 100 % extrait : B3D-737.evt... 100 % extrait : B747 -8.evt... 100% Extrait : Cessna C172.evt... 100%Extrait : flybywire-aircraft-a320-neo.evt... Extrait à 100 % : G36 Beechcraft Bonanza.evt... Extrait à 100 % : G1000.evt... Extrait à 100 % : G3000.evt... Extrait à 100 % : GNS430.evt... Extrait à 100 % : GNS530.evt... Extrait à 100 % : GSX_Standalone.evt Extrait : GTX580-Longitude.evt... Extrait à 100 % : GTX580-TBM.evt... Extrait à 100 % : H135 .evt... Extrait à 100 % : Just Flight PA28.evt... Extrait à 100 % : KAP140.evt... Extrait à 100 % : KR87.evt... Extrait à 100 % : KT76C.evt... Extrait à 100 % : Longitude.evt... 100% Extrait: M20R.evt... 100% Extrait: M803.evt... 100% Extrait: standard1.evt... 100% Extrait: standard2.evt... 100%Extraire : standard3.evt... Extrait à 100 % : WT-CJ4.evt... Fichiers d'événements MobiFlight à 100 % installés dans C:\FSUIPC7\EventFiles Installation des fichiers H:var... Créer un dossier : C:\FSUIPC7\HvarFiles Dossier des fichiers Hvar créé : C:\FSUIPC7\HvarFiles Dossier de sortie : C:\FSUIPC7\HvarFiles Extrait : A32NX FBW.hvar Extrait : AS3x G1000.hvar... 100% Extrait : B3D_737.hvar... 100% Extrait : B747 -8.hvar... Extrait à 100 % : G1000.hvar... Extrait à 100 % : G3000.hvar... Extrait à 100 % : GNS 430.hvar... Extrait à 100 % : GNS 530.hvar... 100 % Extrait : GTX 580 Longitude.hvar... 100% Extrait : GTX 580 TBM.hvar... 100% Extrait : KAP140.hvar... 100% Extrait : KR87.hvar... 100%Extrait : KT76C.hvar... Extrait à 100 % : M803.hvar... Extrait à 100 % : Titre de travail CJ4.hvar... Fichiers Hvar à 100 % installés dans C:\FSUIPC7\HvarFiles Installation terminée. Génération du programme de désinstallation... Création du programme de désinstallation : C:\FSUIPC7\uninstallFSUIPC7.exe Mise à jour du registre... 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Ircghost Posted August 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 No joy after reinstalling again. The lvar module folder is empty (save for an empty folder called 'work') It works again by simply moving the lvar module folder out of the community folder. FSUIPC7.log InstallFSUIPC7.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dowson Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 @Maniek45Please do not hijack an unrelated topic. There are similar topics to your issue - either post in one of those or create a new topic. Note, however, that the menu items are grayed out until the initial list of lvars is received from the WASM module, which occurs when you have loaded an aircraft and are ready-to-fly. 12 hours ago, Ircghost said: No joy after reinstalling again. The lvar module folder is empty (save for an empty folder called 'work') The installation log looks fine, so I have no idea why the WASM module isn't loading and is preventing MSFS from starting correctly. Maybe there is some sort of logging in MSFS (possibly in the dev mode). I'll take a look and get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dowson Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, John Dowson said: Maybe there is some sort of logging in MSFS (possibly in the dev mode). I'll take a look and get back to you. There doesn't seem to be any logging available. Can you try just leaving it running to see if it eventually loads - with just the FSUIPC7 WASM in your Community folder, nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dowson Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 @Ircghost Did you try just leaving it running to see if it eventually loads? Just done some tests (in my development system) on loading times with and without the FSUIPC WASM module installed. In both cases, FSUIPC7 is started around 4min 10-15seconds after MSFS started. Without the WASM installed, I get to the MSFS main menu after around 11min 45seconds. With the FSUIPC WASM module installed, this increases but only by around 15 seconds, to 12min or so. So I really don't know what could be causing your issue.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ircghost Posted August 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 I haven't been able to test yet. But i'll run the test tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ircghost Posted August 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 I don't know what to say, but I tried copying back the ivar-module and the game just starts fine today. Real strange! I will try again tomorrow with a full shutdown of the pc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidcherrie Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 I'm having the same issue immediately after updating from 7.2.4 to 7.2.6. When opening FS2020, I get stuck on "Checking for Update" and takes probably around 10+ minutes to get to FS2020 menu. I tried uninstalling FSUIPC totally along with removing the lvar module from community module. Doesn't go back to regular loading times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dowson Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 6 hours ago, davidcherrie said: I'm having the same issue immediately after updating from 7.2.4 to 7.2.6. When opening FS2020, I get stuck on "Checking for Update" and takes probably around 10+ minutes to get to FS2020 menu. I tried uninstalling FSUIPC totally along with removing the lvar module from community module. Doesn't go back to regular loading times. The increased loading time sounds like it is due to the latest MSFS update, not the FSUIPC update - especially as you have the same loading times with FSUIPC7 not installed. FSUIPC7 does not change anything in MSFS (expect the EXE.xml if the FSUIPC7 auto-start component is installed) and so can not be the cause of the increased loading times without it being installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dowson Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 7 hours ago, davidcherrie said: I'm having the same issue immediately after updating from 7.2.4 to 7.2.6. When opening FS2020, I get stuck on "Checking for Update" and takes probably around 10+ minutes to get to FS2020 menu. Looks to be a general issue since the SU5 update. You could try deleting your rolling cache (if you use one) as it seems to improve loading times for some folk. See https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/extreme-long-loading-times-since-su5-solved/428994 John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ircghost Posted August 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 I'm not the only one with this issue, just came across this on a Discord I'm in. I gave him the tip to copy the lvar module folder out of the community folder: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dowson Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 1:39 PM, Ircghost said: I'm not the only one with this issue I know. Please see my previous comment and link. It is not related to FSUIPC. And please don't paste comments from other sites out of context - at least include a link to what you are referring. What are you expecting me to do with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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