James Stephen

Thanks again, I'll go over the documentaion before I post anymore questions My next big purchase will probably be a PFC yoke - look out! :lol: James

You are right, I think I need to start over, with the documentation in hand. I guess I got into trouble by thinking that I could spend 400 bucks on a throttle that came with a configuration program to set up a simple profile and have it work without such problems. I mean. look, it's 2008, FS9 has been out for many years, why is it so hard to make get a few axes and buttons to work out of the box? I guess I'm wining :? So when that didnt work, I started to mess with your module and created more problems :oops: The reason I had different planes is that there are different configs between a prop or jet or single engine or multi engine plane and I was setting them up for specific planes that I fly in virtual airlines. Guess I screwed that up also. Last night I reset the defaults in your module, so maybe thats why they look like that way in the INI? Any case I'll start over. And if I can not get it to work in FS withthe default aircraft and the goflight config software I'll just send it back. Like you said, thats where I need to start. Thanks for your help, I don't want to waste your time with silly questions.

OK, I backed up the FSUIPC INI file and deleated it from the modules folder as a test. What happened was that the TQ6 seamed to work, however as discussed previously the X45 was dead so I put the original back. Below is a copy of the INI file that I backed up. You mentioned "Just delete the bits to do with the TQ6 -- you'll need to check the joystick number to identify the lines". How do I find out what the joystick # is? Below is a copy of the INI file that I backed up.Can you possible identify the Saitek bits? I know that the various aircraft listed are my attempts at getting the TQ6 configured, so those can go. [General] History=MJA2F5FAV5X49WYU9LCW4 TCASid=Flight TCASrange=40 TrafficScanPerFrame=10 AxisCalibration=No CentredDialogue=Yes ClearWeatherDynamics=Yes OwnWeatherChanges=No WeatherReadInterval=4 MoveBGLvariables=Yes TimeForSelect=4 WeatherReadsFast=No MainMenu=&Modules SubMenu=&FSUIPC ... ShowMultilineWindow=No SuppressSingleline=No SuppressMultilineFS=No WindSmoothing=Yes AutoTaxiWind=No PropTaxiWind=No TimeSetMode=Partial WhiteMessages=No ThrottleSyncAll=No GraduatedVisibility=Yes LowerVisAltitude=0 UpperVisAltitude=25000 UpperVisibility=6000 GenerateCirrus=No WindShearSharp=No UpperWindGusts=Yes ExtendMetarMaxVis=Yes CorrectVSsign=No DisconnTrimForAP=Yes ZeroElevForAPAlt=No AutoClearWeather=Yes ExtendTopWind=No WindSmoothness=5 SmoothPressure=Yes PressureSmoothness=5 SmoothVisibility=No VisibilitySmoothness=2 MaxSurfaceWind=0 WindLimitLevel=200 WindDiscardLevel=400 WindAjustAltitude=No WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000 MinimumVisibility=0 MaximumVisibilityFewClouds=6000 MaximumVisibility=2000 MaximumVisibilityOvercast=2000 MaximumVisibilityRainy=1000 OneCloudLayer=No ThinClouds=No ThinThunderClouds=No CloudThinness=1000 ThunderCloudThinness=10000 CloudTurbulence=No CloudIcing=No WindTurbulence=No SuppressAllGusts=No ExternalOptionControl=Yes AutoTuneADF=No KeepFS98CloudCover=No ShowPMcontrols=No MagicBattery=No RudderSpikeRemoval=Yes ElevatorSpikeRemoval=Yes AileronSpikeRemoval=Yes ReversedElevatorTrim=No StopAutoFuel=No TrapUserInterrupt=Yes NavFreq50KHz=No ClockSync=Yes SmoothIAS=Yes SetVisUpperAlt=No VisUpperAltLimit=6000 MaxIce=3 MinIce=-1 WindSmoothingDelay=0 WindSmoothAirborneOnly=No LimitWindVariance=No VisSmoothingDelay=0 VisSmoothAirborneOnly=No TrafficControlDirect=Yes SuppressCloudTurbulence=No SuppressWindTurbulence=No SpoilerIncrement=512 ShortAircraftNameOk=No FixWindows=No FixControlAccel=No [JoystickCalibration] ExclThrottleSet=No SepRevsJetsOnly=Yes ApplyHeloTrim=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=0 RudderTrimControl=0 CowlFlaps1Control=0 CowlFlaps2Control=0 CowlFlaps3Control=0 CowlFlaps4Control=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16380,-512,512,10000 Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380 Rudder=-16380,-512,512,16380 SlopeThrottle=-2 LeftBrake=-16380,16380/16 RightBrake=-16380,16380/16 ElevatorTrim=-16380,-512,512,16380 Throttle=-15083,16383 Flaps=0,16380 Reverser=0,0 Throttle1=-16380,-512,512,16380 Throttle2=-16380,-512,512,16380 Mixture1=0,8192,8192,16380 Mixture2=0,8192,8192,16380 Spoilers=0,16380/16 Reverser1=-16380,16380/8 Reverser2=-16380,16380/8 Reverser3=-16380,16380/8 Reverser4=-16380,16380/8 Throttle3=-16380,-512,512,16380 Throttle4=-16380,-512,512,16380 [buttons] 1=P0,1,K118,8 4=P0,3,K123,8 5=P0,5,K192,8 6=P0,7,K71,8 7=P0,17,K76,8 8=P0,0,K191,8 9=P0,4,K83,8 10=P0,2,K117,8 11=R0,6,K113,8 12=U0,6,K113,8 13=P0,15,K121,8 14=P169,1,K113,8 15=P169,2,K113,8 [Axes] 0=0X,1,F,65763,0,0,0 1=0Y,1,F,65694,0,0,0 2=0Z,4161,D,4,0,0,0 3=0V,518,F,65766,0,0,0 4=2X,3600,D,41,0,0,0 5=2Y,1143,F,65820,0,0,0 [Axes.DHC-2W 16798] 0=0R,1,D,4,0,0,0 1=0U,1,F,65697,0,0,0 [JoystickCalibration.DHC-2W 16798] ExclThrottleSet=No SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=0 RudderTrimControl=0 CowlFlaps1Control=0 CowlFlaps2Control=0 CowlFlaps3Control=0 CowlFlaps4Control=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380 Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380 Rudder=-16380,-512,512,16380 Throttle=-16380,16380 SlopeThrottle=-6 LeftBrake=-16380,16380/16 RightBrake=-16380,16380/16 Reverser=-16380,16380 PropPitch=-16380,16380 Mixture=-16380,16380 [Axes.DHC-2W O-16555] 0=0Z,1,F,66292,0,0,0 1=0R,4479,F,65773,0,0,0 [JoystickCalibration.DHC-2W O-16555] ExclThrottleSet=No SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=0 RudderTrimControl=0 CowlFlaps1Control=0 CowlFlaps2Control=0 CowlFlaps3Control=0 CowlFlaps4Control=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=0,0,0,0 Elevator=0,0,0,0 Rudder=0,0,0,0 SlopeThrottle=-6 LeftBrake=-16380,16380/16 RightBrake=-16380,16380/16 Reverser=-16380,16380 Throttle=-16380,16380 PropPitch=16256,16256 [buttons.DHC-2W O-16555] 0=P0,1,K83,8 1=P0,0,K190,8 [Axes.Beech 1900D - VC Pacific Airways] 5=2Z,256,F,66423,0,0,0 0=0X,1,F,65763,0,0,0 1=0Y,1,F,65694,0,0,0 2=0Z,4161,D,4,0,0,0 3=0V,518,F,65766,0,0,0 4=2X,1,F,65786,0,0,0 [JoystickCalibration.Beech 1900D - VC Pacific Airways] ExclThrottleSet=No SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=0 RudderTrimControl=0 CowlFlaps1Control=0 CowlFlaps2Control=0 CowlFlaps3Control=0 CowlFlaps4Control=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16380,-512,512,10000 Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380 Rudder=-16380,-512,512,16380 Throttle=-15083,16383 SlopeThrottle=-2 LeftBrake=-16380,16380/16 RightBrake=-16380,16380/16 Throttle1=-16380,83,83,16380 Throttle2=-16380,83,83,16380 ElevatorTrim=-16380,-512,512,16380 Flaps=0,0 Reverser=0,0 [Axes.Douglas DC-3 Shavron Cargo] 5=2Z,3034,D,9,0,0,0 6=2R,256,D,14,0,0,0 7=2U,256,D,13,0,0,0 8=2V,4396,D,10,0,0,0 0=0X,1,F,65763,0,0,0 1=0Y,1,F,65694,0,0,0 2=0Z,4161,D,4,0,0,0 3=2X,3600,D,17,0,0,0 4=2Y,256,D,18,0,0,0 [buttons.Boeing 747-400] 0=P169,1,K113,8

Thanks Pete, I thnk you are right, I need to make sure it works the basic the way Goflight intended. I see from my post that I have too much going here. One last question: I have used FSUIPC to program the Saitek X45, can I delete TQ6 sections of the FSUIPC INI so I don't cause problems with the Saitek, or do I have to deleate the entire file and start over with the X45? Thanks. James

HI, I just got the Goflight TQ6 and I'm trying to set it up. I also have a Saitek X45 stick/throttle combo. I want to use the TQ6 for most of my flying but I need to have the Saitek for the joystick. I orginally set up the TQ6 using the goflight config sofware (seamed easy enough?) but it's not responding correctly for all levers. So now I'm going to try FSUIPC to set it up. Questions: 1) If I use FSUIPC should I not use or uninstall the Goflight software? 2) is there a possible conflict between having both the TQ-6 and Saitek X45 throttle? 3) For a test I also set up the MSFS default DC3 using the goflight software (did not work) So then I used FSUIPC (assigned axes, and calibrated) to set leavers A/B for props, C/D throttle and E/F for mixture. But when I pull F for one of the mixtures it sets the flaps all the way? And then the only way to get the flaps back up is to use the button I assigned t othe Saitek to retract flaps, because moving the goflight lever back up doesnt retract the flaps. The prop leavers work. Only lever D works for one engine, lever C doesnt do anything? This is probably too much info, but I'm at a loss. Seams simple enough to set up using Goflight software or FSUIPC but the result is that some levers work fine and others don't?

Thanks Pete, I think I learned a lot about what I'm doing here from your help. You are right, I do unplug the joystick from time to time so that's why there are reassignments as you mentioned. I also looked into your other suggestions and everything seams to be working now! Thanks so much! James :)

Thanks Jim for the tip in Active Sky!

I think I found the problem. FS reassigned all the buttons. I had deleated all the assigments in FS before and programmed with FFSUIPC and it worked. But I guess FS didn't like that and reassigned causing the conflict. I went through and deleated the key assignments in FS again and it's working great. How do you prevent FS from taking over again once you deleated? FS also asigns random commands to my Saitek pedals? Is there a way to keep FS from doing this? Since I have been using FFSUIPC more and more, I am learning how powerful and useful it is! Thanks so much for this program!!!

OK I'll try your suggestions. The jittery behavior is seen on screen. The throttle bounces up and down like someone is moving it fastly. The pitch wheel on the panel is rolling up and down irregular. And even when I sit on the runway, out side view, I notice the rudder flapping back and forth and the alerons are tweaked. It's as if there are random inputs being sent to the control or conflicts as if multiple inputs are being sent, I don't know :( I over control because the plane will not fly level - it used to. I level it out and cruise, the all of asudden the nose pitches up or down quickly, like a gremlin got a hold of it :( I'll experiment and read more. It's a bummer that it is this difficult to just get a flight controller set up. Thanks for your input.

Hi Pete, thanks for getting back to me. The calibration when I do it in FS is smooth and looks fine, when I try it in FSUIPC it appears to be smooth also. Yes, I have tried to calibrate in the windows or in FS first. I deleted all button assignments id FS and left the axes alone. A programed the buttons in FSUIPC and left the axes alone. But now I'm wondering if I should delete the axes in FS? In fact, the X45 worked fine until a few months back when I "updated" my computer, the Windows update site had a "driver update" for Saitek, and when I installed it, it screwed up my joystick, so I uninstalled the new drivers and reinstalled the old, but it never worked properly so I decided to use FSUIPC , and I got it to work. But then, I purchased the Pro Flight Yoke a few weeks ago, and installed its drivers but it was impossible to program, sent it back, and now I'm trying to resetup the X45. So now Im not sure if I have conlflicts between the FS settings and FSUIPC? I read on one of the posts here that you can delete the drivers completely, but that was a little strange to me, so I thought I'd ask? My Active sky question is related to visibility settings. I like keeping the visibilty lower for frame rates. So in FS you can set it to 30 miles or what ever. But then Active Sky will overide this with real values, which it should, but I would like to keep it lower. I see that you can set the visibility in FSUIPC and I wondered if this would overide the Active Sky while keeping the other Active Sky settings unchanged?

I have the registured FSUIPC with FS9. I have the Saitek X45 that I'm trying to set up. And I'm not using the Saitek programing software. I have been working with it, but I'm getting erratic behavior in my pitch axis, the trim is extreamely sensitive and the elevevator when moved swings greatly up or down and the trim is constantly twittering and I have to constantly over correct to keep the plane level. Last night I was flying the PMDG B1900 and it was a real chore. Also, the throttle is behaving erratic, as I push the joystick throttle, the graphic throttle on the panel is bouncing up and down and jittery? Few questions: 1) should I just unistall all the Saitek drivers and use just FSUIPC to program? 2) should I delete all assignments, incuding axis assignments in FS, and program in FSUIPC only? 3) can I use FS to program some assignments and FSUIPC to program others, it seams that some work just fine in FS settings, but others need FSUIPC to work? Or should I just use one or the other? 4) I use Active Sky 6, can I use FSUIPC weather settings to enhance this, or does this cause problems. I don't understand why it's so difficult to get Saitek products to work correctly in FS, I just sent back their Yoke system because it was impossible for me to get set up, even using FSUIPC Any help would be appreciated greatly, - James