flyingdog

Yeah, sorry Pete, I just though that the other "suggestion" was by someone who knows the style of this place better than I. Yeah, I am somewhat disappointed with GF after forking out a lot of $$$$ that their software is starting to go backwards rather than forewards with things. Alas there is little else. :( I can only hope that they get back to me with a suggestion/solution from their end.

I have a bit of GoFlight gear. I've posted on/in their forum too. What I want to do is use FSUIPC to set the assignment/s which their software is "sadly lacking". The problem is that when I press the button the LED doesn't come on. Is there a way I can make FSUIPC turn on the LED?

Hi! Good news! Most of the problems are now "resolved" WRT Double assignments. There are still problems with me understanding how to do all the little things. So as to not get lost with multiple threads, indluge me continuing my questions in this thread. It is kind of along the original thread anyway. I have a bit of GoFlight gear. I've posted on/in their forum too. What I want to do is use FSUIPC to set the assignment/s which their software is "sadly lacking". The problem is that when I press the button the LED doesn't come on. Is there a way I can make FSUIPC turn on the LED?

Hi again Peter. I don't know why it is I can't spell brakes and put the extra 'e' in there. I think it is a "crossed wire between the brain and the hands when I type. There are many words like that and unless I REALLY REALLY concentrate, I spell it incorrectly. Changing numbers to letters sounds perfect! I had a look at the old .ini file and shall now look at t he new one and find the place where the nubmers are assigned to the joysticks and change them to letters. But I guess then I will have to go through and find subsequent references to the old numbers and replcae them with the new letters. "Sectionalising an axis" That's weird. Your explination is exactly what I thought. If the stick has 4 axis, I could do them all then and there. The CH pedals was the perfect example. But I push one pedal and I get the input push the other one and don't see it. Anyway, I'll work on it. You mentioned GEAR operation for sectionalising the axis.... Errr why? Gear is usually UP or DOWN. Ok, there is the middle "OFF" section for jets. I was trying with the cowel flaps. Ok, with the joystick button/s to cycle the view mode. I clicked the button and went off looking through the huge list. No, I didn't know the name, so looked for what I thought was the name. Couldn't find what looked right. Stopped and went into FS"s assignments. Went to views. Scrolled through the FS list and found the "s" key reference and noted the name. I am 99% sure that is the name I used in my earlier post and couldn't find it listed. So what I did was make that button equal to pressing the "s" key, and another one to the "shift + s" key - is FS depicts it. Anyway, I'm back to being able to fly and am happy. Oh brakes. (had to go back and take out that extra e again) On the assignment screen I ticked the send straight to FS box. Went to the calibration screen and went to the window with the brake value listed. Pressing the LEFT pedal numbers go from small to big. Pressing the RIGHT pedal numbers go from small to big. However, if I go back to the assign screen/tab and tick "Send to FSUIPC to calibrate" THEN the numbers on one are reversed. No worries, as you say: There is a reverse button to fix the problem. I am only asking why are they reversed in the first place from when they are not "parsed"? Thanks very much for the help though. It isn't that I like making a fool of myself and showing people I can't spell for the sake of learning. It is just that sometimes data just doesn't get in and I can read it until the cows come home it is confsing. I don't know why, but reading what you say HERE (be it verbatum to what is in the instructions or not) it makes sence to me or is clearer. Don't ask me why, because I don't know. I am also noticing that my typing skills are getting worse as I could usually nearly touch type - yeah, ok with a few mistakes - but could at least get the keys pressed in what I thought was the right order. Now the keys have a mind of their own and are getting in the wrong order. Scarey stuff from my perspective! I have not had the machine working now for about 4 years! Before that I had invested hours installing and setting things up. Now the machine is working, I am (maybe foolishly) wanting to fly again and am hoping that things are as easy to get working as they were the first time. Funny how it seemed so much easier then than now. Anyway, it is early Sat morning and I have other jobs to do before I can indulge myself in flying. Bye and thanks. "I'll be back" though. Even if all is good. Just to stay across things.

Good news! I renamed the existing .ini file and started again. It all works. Not that I didn't believe it, but it just seems weird how it all happened. If you (Peter) will indulge me now, I shall put my questions here. I don't want to make too many posts. They are hard to track. Yes, I am sure that it is explained in the manual, but I am confused and asking here may help clear the confusion. Ok, AXIS ASSIGNMENT screen in FSUIPC. Rescan - I guess this is pressed when you are doing multiple axis on multiple sticks? Clear - nice word but not exactly specific. I had pressed it with the initial problem and it didn't change anything, so what does it clear? Over in the middle of the window, there is a Joy#, and then an AXIS #. Ok, the axis are difficult to "name" but I thought each USB device had a better name than a number. Looking at it, how do I know which number is which device? I am taking it that the four input fields at the bottom are for when an axis is "sectionalised" into parts? CALIBRATION screen. Min - Cent - Max. Yeah, ok for rudder, aileron, and..... Elevator. Back to that in a moment - I am typing in the notes I made on the paper in the order I wrote them. It is confusing enough for me. Sorry if this makes it confusing to read. But I hope we can work on that and resolve the confusion as we go. Breaks: These are really confusing. If I tell the assignment to give it to FSUPIC to calibrate in the previous window, something weird happens. LEFT BREAK: Fully off I get 16383 in the window. Fully on I get -16178 in the window. So, I pusht the pedal down with my heal to get the 16383-ish value. Breaks fully off. I press the SET button on the left, I get the number into the field below. Then I press the pedal with my toes and get the -16xxx value. I press the button to set that and all I get is a beep. The program/something won't accept it. That aside for a second, the RIGHT BREAK now: Fully off, I get -16xxx Fully on, I get 16xxx The numbers are REVERSED in their values with where the pedals are. WHY? Anyway, to "resolve" this, I simply go back to the assignment window and tell it not pass the values DIRECTLY to the FS and then when I go the calibrate window and have the break part open and press the breaks I get the values moving as I press the pedals and they both have the same range. That is going from (say) -16xxx to 16xxx when the pedal is pressed with toes. Now, I appreciate the rudder/break pedals I have can get "noise" in them and causes stutter in the rudder - well, that's what I am getting with the rudder. How do I put in a "null zone"? In one of the screens (Assign - I would think) when I am trying to name and pass the "joystick" axis to FSUPIC, I can't find BREAKS - left or right. Annoying. Though when I go to the CALIBRATE window/tab, the values change when I press the pedals. Suggestion on this point: Why is it that most other things are like: Engine 1 - blah. Engine 2 - blah, and so on. Why isn't it Breaks - left Breaks - right and not left break and right break. It is confusing trying to find them sometimes. The "View cycle" is also not listed in the FS commands. I have to "cheat" and if I want to cycle views by pressing a button on the Joystick I have to assign a "key press" to the button and make it "s" and to cycle back I have to assign keypress "S" to the buttons. Why isn't there a "View cycle foreward" and "View cycle backward" functions listed in the list of FS commands?

I may be a bit quite for a while. I haven't got upset, just extremely busy. When I have news, I'll let you know.

I am going to have to really try to make time to sit in front of the PC and "document" what I am meaning. Why "aircraft specific"? Well, first off here's my setup: I have FS9 - obviously. A Saitek USB FFB stick - as opposed to the initial M$ Sidewinder Pro FFB which killed the FS when SP2 was installed I think. CH HOTAS - though seldom used nowadays. CH Pedals. GF gear - TQ6, a few PB8, a few PT8, a radio unit, an ATC unit, the original MCP, the original Landing gear/flap unit. (That is about 9 units from GoFlight) All but the TQ6 and one of the set of switches are all fixed in what they do. However, the TQ6 changes functions depending on the plane. Yes, GF's software kind of supports that, but they shot them selves in the foot and now their software doesn't support some of their gear. I now have the "best" version of their software which supports are much as I can get. Having FSUIPC and it sees the GF gear it seems better/easier to use it to define the functions rather than trying their software. Also, if I change planes, I don't have to exit FS and re-load the config for GF then re-load FS, and start. FSUIPC's ability to identify plane changes, it makes it way easier. So I wasn't doing Pitch/Roll callibration with FSUIPC, I had not touched it. I fly single engine planes and was happy. One day I was flying a twin prop plane and was flying. I noticed something weird happening while taxiing but didn't worry too much. Takeoff was a bit strange too, but after takeoff, I used autopilot. Arriving at the destination I disengaged autopilot and started to do the circuit. Suddenly the engines are going wild and doing weird things. Engine 2 was reving up or back as I turned. Then as I started to descent, engine 1 went carzy. I aborted the flight and studdied the plane's responce to inputs. I noticed that as I moved the stick, the engine levers were moving. I checked in FS assignments and couldn't find anything. So I am guessing it is caused by FSUIPC. (No offence.) It doesn't show me "who" is controlling what on the plane. I get device "names" in the calibration window but it doesn't really tell me who they are. All the GF gear has unique names - as stated by GoFlight and I guess it needs to be to let it's software know "who is who" if I have two of the same thing plugged in. I kept screen shots to help me when setting the breaks, rudder, etc so I have better control of them. But even reading the documents, what these numbers do/mean and how to set them is beyond me. In some cases I have to press the SET button twice to get the value into the box, other times, once. I don't remember the specifics and shall discuss this later on after we get this original problem resolved. Back to the original problem: People have told me to try disabling the joystick in FS and doing that makes no difference. What did work for a while was plugging the joystick into a different USB port. But shortly after, the probelm returned. To me that means it is seeing the name of the joystick and assigning the functions from that. I'll stop talking now as I think I have said what I need to, and am babeling now.

SOrry for the badly formatted reply. I am not used to this system yet. As well as, or instead of, the elevator and aileron? Both. The external view shows aleron/elevators moving as I move the stick. But with the engine control view also open, I see the throttle levers moving too. Did you check all controllers in the drop down, or do you only have the one? There is no display of throttle values in any Assignments tabs in FSUIPC. There's an axis assignments tab which shows axes and allows assignments, and a separate Joystick Calibration tab which reads incoming FS controls from either FS or FSUIPC assignments ("IN") and shows the effect on the assigned controls ("OUT"). So please differentiate between ASSIGNING and CALIBRATING. Where are you seeing what? It has been years since I have "talked the talk" of FS9. Please forgive me not being able to use the correct terms every time. In FSUIPC, I go to one of the tabs where the assignments and calibration are. There is a "sub section" of about 15 pages which cover things like breaks, engines, thorttles, pitch, mixture, etc etc etc. To me, slightly confusing. But anyway.... So there is a screen where I have engine throttle values which change as I move the levers of the GoFlight unit. I move the lever on the GoFlight TQ6 for engine 1 and I see the values for that engine change. I move the second lever and see engine two's throttle value change. All good. it was only by fluke that I bumped the joystick once while I was trying to work out what was going on, I noticed the value change as I moved the joystick. Ofcourse this was way after I had been flying and discoverd the problem while flying and was trying to debug the probelm. And in any case, if you are assigning in FS what are you doing in FSUIPC assignments, if indeed that is where you are? No, in FS, I have checked the assignments in FS for engine control, axis etc etc, and all of them are un-ticked when I select the joystick. Alas FS9 is painful in how it works when I change the top tab of functions listed. I have even tried un-ticking the "enable joystick" box, so FS doesn't use the Joystick - or so I hope. If it is assigned in FS you remove that assignment in FS. If it is in FSUIPC you remove it in FSUIPC. If you really cannot figure FSUIPC out just delete the [Axes] sections in the FSUIPC INI file. Then FSUIPC won't be assigning any axes. Where is this file of which you speak? Is it in FS's directory, the modules' directory, or...... Sorry, I am not a full time windoze person and as I said, it has been YEARS since I have use FS because of ongoing problems with a) the computer b) problems with SP2 and the original joystick I had. c) getting all the stuff working again. I can't help with FS assignments -- FS help should be okay there. For FSUIPC if you are in a total mess and don't understand what you've done, simply delete the INI file (or the [Axes sections only) and start again. It will probably be easier for you if you stick to FS assignments. FSUIPC's are probably over the top (too powerful) for your needs. You can still calibrate in FSUIPC, just don't use the Axes tab if it confuses you. It is really intended for more advanced uses such as assigning different controls to different aircraft. Regards Pete I think starting again would be the quickest way. I have tried the "delete assignments" (is it? - or reset... what ever) and started from scartch, but it doesn't seem to work. Oh, I am using "aircraft specific" on the settings because it is probably the best way. but on that...... There are some things I want to be UNIVERSAL - like breaks, rudder, cowel flaps. I can't understand how to make some plane specific and others UNIVERSAL which apply to ALL planes. I may have to sit down infront of FSUIPC and take more notes.

Hi folks. This is a LONG story and I shall leave a lot of it out to not bore you to pieces. However, a quick version: XP, SP1 512 Meg ram. Bought FSUPIC. FS9 with patch worked. I could fly single/twin and 4 engine planes. No worries. I have a lot of GoFlight gear and a MS Sidewider FFB stick. Machine died. Rebuilt. Still dead. Rebuilt again and again..... Finally got it working. Had to re-install the OS and everything else. Re-installed FSUPIC. The only difference is it is now SP2. Had a lot of trouble getting the FS working. Would not get good FPS. Resolved that it was the Joystick. Bought new Joystick and all works good. Mostly flew Single engine planes and all is good. One day flew twin engine prop plane and realised that the joystick's Pitch control adjusts engine 1 throttle, and roll control adjusts engine 2 throttle. I have checked the assignments in FS9 and there is no conflict with control axis and what they do. In FSUPIC's screen as I am setting assignments I discovered that as I move the joystick's stick it alters the engine throttle values. Which way I move it depends on which engine. The other (correct) device is the GoFlight TQ6 unit. I have to do it this way as the GoFlight software is now pathetic and doesn't support some of their modules. Anyway, that aside, I don't know how to remove the assignment from the joystick axis to the engine throttle assignment. Furthermore, the joystick's throttle lever was assigned to cowel flaps. But if I move it, it "defaults" to both engine throttle lever. Trying to fly a twin plane how it is now, pitch controls engine 1 and roll controls engine 2. Climbing and turning can become quite difficult. Can someone please help me?