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8 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said:
Not in FSUIPC, but I can't say P3D hasn't changed as I don't know.
I can't really help in any case without details. Please find the FSUIPC4.LOG file (in the P3D Modules folder) and paste its contents here.
This assumes you have a plug-in called "DynamicFriction.lua" in the Modules folder. Have you?
Pete
I have got that file in the modules folder yes..
Is this the log?
********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.949h by Pete Dowson *********
Prepar3D.exe version = 3.3.5.17625
Reading options from "D:\Prepar3D v3\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini"
Running inside Prepar3D v3 on Windows 8.0 (it's actually windows 10)
Module base=1F100000
User Name="Alex Ridge"
User Addr="deleted"
FSUIPC4 Key is provided
WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired
156 System time = 27/08/2016 08:43:55
156 FLT path = "C:\Users\Alex\Documents\Prepar3D v3 Files\"
156 ------ Module Version Check ------
156 acontain.dll: 3.3.5.17625
156 api.dll: 3.3.5.17625
156 controls.dll: 3.3.5.17625
156 fs-traffic.dll: 3.3.5.17625
156 G3D.dll: 3.3.5.17625
156 language.dll: 3.3.5.17625
156 sim1.dll: 3.3.5.17625
156 visualfx.dll: 3.3.5.17625
156 weather.dll: 3.3.5.17625
156 window.dll: 3.3.5.17625
156 ----------------------------------
156 Trying D:\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D2.dll
156 Found it: trying to connect
156 FS path = "D:\Prepar3D v3\"
281 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan -----------------------
281 Product= Saitek X52 Pro Flight Control System
281 Manufacturer= Saitek
281 Vendor=06A3, Product=0762 (Version 1.35)
281 Serial Number= Saitek
281 -------------------------------------------------------------------
281 LogOptions=00000000 00000001
281 -------------------------------------------------------------------
281 ------ Setting the hooks and direct calls into the simulator ------
281 --- CONTROLS timer memory location obtained ok
281 ### Failed to obtain SIM1 Frictions access: no frictions facilities available!
281 Reason 6: SIM1 base=613D0000
281 FrictionAddr=614F7218 contains 00000000
281 BrakingAddr=614F84D8 contains 3F0CCCCD
281 --- FS Controls Table located ok
281 --- Installed Mouse Macro hooks ok.
281 --- Wind smoothing fix is installed
281 --- All links okay (except older global weather setting method)
281 -------------------------------------------------------------------
297 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay
297 Trying to use SimConnect Prepar3D
54859 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v3", Version: 3.3.3.3 (SimConnect: 3.3.0.0)
54859 Initialising SimConnect data requests now
54859 FSUIPC Menu entry added
54875 C:\Users\Alex\Documents\Prepar3D v3 Files\Cub Default.fxml
54875 D:\Prepar3D v3\SimObjects\Airplanes\Piper_J3Cub\Piper_J3Cub.air
297594 D:\Prepar3D v3\SimObjects\Airplanes\PMDG 737-800NGX WL\B737-800WL.air
329765 System time = 27/08/2016 08:49:25, Simulator time = 08:48:47 (07:48Z)
329781 Aircraft="PMDG 737-800NGX Norshuttle LN-DYJ"
335765 Starting everything now ...
335797 Run: "C:\Program Files (x86)\EZCA\EZCA.exe"
335859 ASN active function link set
335859 Ready for ASN WX radar
337125 Weather Mode now = Theme
340812 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled
1818922 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 1422 secs = 55.2 fps
2250890 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 406 secs = 56.5 fps
2318156 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 37 secs = 53.7 fps
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Hi guys,
The dynamic friction is not working in the latest p3d and I was wondering if there has been a fundamental change. I've put in the module again and made sure i've got the
[Auto]
1 = LUA DynamicFrictionBut I am having to use a lot more thrust than I am used to and i've been using this fix for years.
Kind regards
Alex
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You are only logging Axis inputs -- the flooding I was talking about tend to be the other events.
However, I don't know what you are doing with that spoiler axis. Do you keep moving it very very fast so somehow resulting in alternate larger numbers and zero (???), or is the axis faulty, or is it the PMDG aircraft trying to set it to zero against your wishes?
If I were you I'd test things on a default aircraft before worrying about your axes on a PMDG one.
Pete
Hi there,
No idea what is happening with the spoiler axis, it is set to a axis wheel and is fixed.
Other aircraft don't seem to have this issue.
Alex
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Log file
********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.934 by Pete Dowson *********User Name="Alex Ridge"User Addr= removed for forum post.FSUIPC4 Key is providedWIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired84646 System time = 05/07/2014 11:47:28, Simulator time = 12:55:08 (11:55Z)[Continuation log requested by user]Running inside FSX on Windows 7Module base=50A5000084646 LogOptions changed, now 10000000 0000000184974 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled92556 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5620 (0x000015f4) SPOILERS_SET93024 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 0 (0x00000000) SPOILERS_SET93320 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5620 (0x000015f4) SPOILERS_SET93960 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 0 (0x00000000) SPOILERS_SET94038 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5620 (0x000015f4) SPOILERS_SET94209 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5621 (0x000015f5) SPOILERS_SET94272 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5994 (0x0000176a) SPOILERS_SET94334 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 6637 (0x000019ed) SPOILERS_SET94443 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 7360 (0x00001cc0) SPOILERS_SET94506 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 7667 (0x00001df3) SPOILERS_SET94568 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 7909 (0x00001ee5) SPOILERS_SET94646 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 7966 (0x00001f1e) SPOILERS_SET94740 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 7438 (0x00001d0e) SPOILERS_SET94802 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 7059 (0x00001b93) SPOILERS_SET94880 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 6726 (0x00001a46) SPOILERS_SET94974 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 6136 (0x000017f8) SPOILERS_SET95052 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5803 (0x000016ab) SPOILERS_SET95114 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5620 (0x000015f4) SPOILERS_SET95442 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5842 (0x000016d2) SPOILERS_SET95520 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5727 (0x0000165f) SPOILERS_SET95582 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5620 (0x000015f4) SPOILERS_SET95894 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 0 (0x00000000) SPOILERS_SET104568 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5620 (0x000015f4) SPOILERS_SET104802 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 0 (0x00000000) SPOILERS_SET105348 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5620 (0x000015f4) SPOILERS_SET105519 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 0 (0x00000000) SPOILERS_SET106128 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5620 (0x000015f4) SPOILERS_SET106284 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 0 (0x00000000) SPOILERS_SET106892 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5620 (0x000015f4) SPOILERS_SET107235 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 0 (0x00000000) SPOILERS_SET107594 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5620 (0x000015f4) SPOILERS_SET107672 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5803 (0x000016ab) SPOILERS_SET107766 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 6110 (0x000017de) SPOILERS_SET107828 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 6268 (0x0000187c) SPOILERS_SET107906 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5980 (0x0000175c) SPOILERS_SET108000 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5620 (0x000015f4) SPOILERS_SET108515 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 0 (0x00000000) SPOILERS_SET108671 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5620 (0x000015f4) SPOILERS_SET108842 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 6171 (0x0000181b) SPOILERS_SET108920 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 6397 (0x000018fd) SPOILERS_SET108983 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 6082 (0x000017c2) SPOILERS_SET109076 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 5620 (0x000015f4) SPOILERS_SET109310 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65786 (0x000100fa), Param= 0 (0x00000000) SPOILERS_SET113678 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 29 secs = 28.8 fps117968 LogOptions changed, now 00000000 00000001 -
Assuming you are talking about reactions in a fighter or stunt aircraft, where you expect and need an immediate response, and not in an airliner which has natural inertia in all axes and even throttle results on the engines, there are only two causes of delays I can think of, and they should usually be barely noticeable.
The first is using the Filter option in FSUIPC's calibration. That needs a sequence of inputs to formulate the next result going into FS, and can in some circumstances and controls produce a slight lag. The filter option is only suitable for drastic control instability, of the type usually caused by bad power supplies.
The second is caused by having the Delta value, in the axis assignments tab, set too low. The default of 512 or 256 should be good for a properly calibrated (in Windows) axis. If it is too low you will get multiple small changes flooding the message queue.
There is actually also a third possibility I've just thought of and that is where add-on aircraft (or other programs, actually) are flooding the message queues with commands too. I've noticed that some of PMDG's aircraft repeatedly send the same controls over and over for no reason apparent to me. To see if this sort of thing is responsible, enable Event logging in FSUIPC's logging page and take a look at the log generated.
Pete
Hi Pete, hope you're well and thank you for the reply.
I am indeed talking about PMDG aircraft where I am physically looking at the Yoke and moving my joystick at home. I will enable the log reporting and get back to you shortly
Alex
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Hi guys,
Super quick one, using the FSIUPC axis config (going directly though FSUIPC) there is noticable input lag between my physical hardware and in the sim.
I am not for a second saying that this is a fault with FSUIPC but I wondered if there was a fix for it?
Kind regards,
Alex
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Cheers Pete,
I will look into it,
Alex
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Well, it's lucky that through an oversight some of the axes assigned "direct to calibration" are let through even if calibration has not been set. That doesn't happen on all axes, and didn't used to happen on FS9. I haven't fixed it for fear of messing installations up like yours where althoguh you assigned "to calibration" you never actually went to the calibration page and enabled it.
Best to delete the [Axes] line for that if you are not using it, or it could interfere. It's the one to D,25.
Yes, of course. You've not read much of the supplied documentation, then? Miscellaneous page: there are mouse move, mouse look and mouse trim options. Yours is mouse look, and you can do it with the middle mouse button held down, much better than the space bar. It applies to all views as far as I know, at least in virtual cockpit mode.
Regards
Pete
I also use EZDOK which goes on the basis of a middle mouse button. I assume it will be ok for space bar too? Is it called 'Mouse Move'?
Thanks again Pete, you're a superstar of the fs world!
Cheers once again
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Spoilers are set to an axis on my throttle ont he x52. I will do a proper calibration but to be honest, they are not too far off the default.
Reverser I tried setting it to an axis on the throttle, now it's just a button with repeat if hold.
I'll get back to you on that,
p.s the default FSX controls allowed one to pan in spot view by holding the space bar and then moving the mouse. Is it this possible to set up through FSUIPC?
Alex
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Updated settings
(Working now with reinstall of latest version)
[JoystickCalibration]AllowSuppressForPFCquad=YesExcludeThrottleSet=YesExcludeMixtureSet=YesExcludePropPitchSet=YesSepRevsJetsOnly=NoApplyHeloTrim=NoUseAxisControlsForNRZ=NoFlapsSetControl=0FlapDetents=NoReverserControl=66292Reverser1Control=66422Reverser2Control=66425Reverser3Control=66428Reverser4Control=66431MaxThrottleForReverser=256AileronTrimControl=66731RudderTrimControl=66732CowlFlaps1Control=66162CowlFlaps2Control=66163CowlFlaps3Control=66164CowlFlaps4Control=66165SteeringTillerControl=0MaxSteerSpeed=60Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380Rudder=-16380,-512,512,16380Throttle=-16380,16380Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380SlopeAileron=3SlopeElevator=3[Axes]RangeRepeatRate=100=1X,256,D,1,0,0,01=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,02=1Z,256,D,4,0,0,03=1R,256,D,3,0,0,04=1V,256,D,22,0,0,05=1S,256,D,25,0,0,0 -
Yes, I assumed you were using FSUIPC's axis assignment from your original message, but there are several ways of assigning everything there and different controls you can use. Hence my question.
That's the INI file, with your settings. did you try logging, as I suggested?
First off, your FSUIPC is out of date. Version 4.920 is no longer supported.. You need to update.
Second, you have very little actually assigned in FSUIPC: the only axes you have assigned are listed in your INI file:
[Axes]
0=1Z,256,D,4,0,0,01=1V,256,D,22,0,0,02=1S,256,D,25,0,0,0These are, respectively, Throttle, Spoilers and all-engine Reverser. All are assigned "Direct to FSUIPC calibration", but these are your calibrations:
Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380
Rudder=-16380,-512,512,16380Throttle=-16380,16380Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380which include only "Throttle", making the other two assignments pretty useless. Furthermore, these calibration values are the default values set by FSUIPC ready for you to adjust to suit your particular controls. It seems you've not yet actually processed througfh the necessary and documented steps to proper calibration.If, as you say, your elevators and rudders are working then you evidently must have these assigned in FSX, not in FSUIPC. The default FSUIPC calibration values will still apply, of course, but not being true calibrations they may not be having the best results. Really you are in danger of having conflciting assignments because assignments in FSX will conflict with any similar ones in FSUIPC. You should choose one or the other. You can still calibrate in FSUIPC either way, but there is little point if you simply leave the calibration values to default.Maybe you deleted some earlier INI file and are left with some later changes, forgetting you'd deleted everything beforehand? Otherwise i cannot imagine how you've had successful use of these facilities in FSUIPC before now.RegardsPeteHi Pete,
What I will do, is install the latest once again, and consult the manual to properly set up the axis.
I have all the buttons assigned through FSUIPC (gear flaps etc etc), If I just install the new version will these controls still stand?
Alex
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p.s,
Pete, I just realised that I disabled the axis in fsuipc and enabled the default assignments through fsx, just so I could continue my flight, hense why they are not showing in there.
My usual calibration is
> Axis Assignment > Move joystick to positive elevator >> Send Direct to FSUIPC Calibration >> Elevator
Alex
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More information needed I'm afraid. How is it assigned -- i.e. which mode of assignment and which control? Is it calibrated in FSUIPC or not? Is this with FS9 or some older version, or FSX or P3D? What actual version of FSUIPC?
If you don't know any of these things, maybe you can paste in your FSUIPC INI file from the FS Modules folder? That would fill in many of the answers.
Additional, however, is whether it is the same with default aircraft as well as whatever add-ons you are using.
Finally, you could, for yourself, try some of the logging facilities to see what is going on -- axis logging, for example. See the Logging tab in FSUIPC's options menu.
Regards
Pete
Apologies for the lack of information.
It is assigned through the FSUIPC Axis assignment and exported through fsuipc settings (giving more limited options for alerions elevators etc. rather than the full list).
It is calibrated through FSUIPC.
FSX
Here is the log..
P.s Elevators, rudders and buttons working fine.
[General]UpdatedByVersion=4920History=3EVK1ANA9V4G8VZUK60L7InitDelayDevicesToo=NoUseSystemTime=NoUseMidMouseBtn=YesMouseWheelMove=NoMouseWheelTrim=NoMouseWheelTrimSpeed=1JoystickTimeout=20PollGFTQ6=YesBlankDisplays=NoFixControlAccel=NoFixMachSpeedBug=NoDeleteVehiclesForAES=YesAutoScanDevices=YesVisibilityOptions=NoOneCloudLayer=NoCloudTurbulence=NoCloudIcing=NoGenerateCirrus=NoSuppressCloudTurbulence=NoMaxIce=-4MinIce=-4UpperWindGusts=NoSuppressWindTurbulence=NoSuppressWindVariance=NoWindTurbulence=NoTurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40SuppressAllGusts=NoMaxSurfaceWind=0WindLimitLevel=200WindDiscardLevel=400WindAjustAltitude=NoWindAjustAltitudeBy=2000SmoothBySimTime=NoWindSmoothing=NoWindSmoothness=2WindSmoothAirborneOnly=YesPressureSmoothness=0TemperatureSmoothness=0DisconnTrimForAP=NoZeroElevForAPAlt=NoThrottleSyncAll=NoWhiteMessages=NoShowPMcontrols=NoSpoilerIncrement=512MagicBattery=NoRudderSpikeRemoval=NoElevatorSpikeRemoval=NoAileronSpikeRemoval=NoReversedElevatorTrim=NoClockSync=NoClockSyncMins=2ClearWeatherDynamics=NoOwnWeatherChanges=NoTimeForSelect=4LoadFlightMenu=NoLoadPlanMenu=NoPauseAfterCrash=NoBrakeReleaseThreshold=75SaveDataWithFlights=NoZapSound=fireworkShortAircraftNameOk=SubstringUseProfiles=YesEnableMouseLook=NoAxesWrongRange=NoTCASid=FlightTCASrange=40AxisCalibration=NoDirectAxesToCalibs=NoShowMultilineWindow=YesSuppressSingleline=NoSuppressMultilineFS=NoAxisIntercepts=NoDontResetAxes=NoInitDelay=0GetNearestAirports=YesOOMcheck=YesWeatherReadFactor=2WeatherRewriteSeconds=1CustomWeatherModify=NoSimConnectStallTime=1LuaRerunDelay=66Console=NoFSVersionUsed="Microsoft Flight Simulator X",10.0.61637.0SimConnectUsed=10.0.61259.0[JoyNames]AutoAssignLetters=No1=Saitek X52 Pro Flight Control System1.GUID={97D76E00-1A0A-11E3-8007-444553540000}[buttons]ButtonRepeat=20,101=P0,1,K77,112=P1,1,K77,113=R1,21,C65615,04=R1,19,C65607,05=P1,2,C65758,06=P1,3,C65759,07=R1,0,C65588,08=P1,5,C65853,09=P1,7,C65570,010=R1,26,C65602,011=P1,24,K82,912=P1,6,K71,11[AutoSave]Next=1Interval=60Files=10SaveOnGround=NoAutoSaveEnabled=No[GPSout]GPSoutEnabled=No[GPSout2]GPSoutEnabled=No[WideServer]WideFSenabled=Yes[sounds]Path=D:\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Sound\Device1=Primary Sound DriverDevice2=Speakers (ASUS Xonar Xense Audio Device)Device3=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)Device4=S/PDIF Pass-through Device (ASUS Xonar Xense Audio Device)Device5=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)[JoystickCalibration]AllowSuppressForPFCquad=YesExcludeThrottleSet=YesExcludeMixtureSet=YesExcludePropPitchSet=YesSepRevsJetsOnly=NoApplyHeloTrim=NoUseAxisControlsForNRZ=NoFlapsSetControl=0FlapDetents=NoReverserControl=66292Reverser1Control=66422Reverser2Control=66425Reverser3Control=66428Reverser4Control=66431MaxThrottleForReverser=256AileronTrimControl=66731RudderTrimControl=66732CowlFlaps1Control=66162CowlFlaps2Control=66163CowlFlaps3Control=66164CowlFlaps4Control=66165SteeringTillerControl=0MaxSteerSpeed=60Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380Rudder=-16380,-512,512,16380Throttle=-16380,16380Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380[Axes]0=1Z,256,D,4,0,0,01=1V,256,D,22,0,0,02=1S,256,D,25,0,0,0[Keys]2=32,8,1127,0,1128,0 -
Hi there Pete and gentlemen.
Been a register FSUIPC user for years and this is the first support query (says a lot about how good the product is).
My issue is that suddenly without changing a setting, the ailerons are not being picked up in the simulator.
In Axis assignment the X axis is still being picked up and assigned ot alerions, but that is just not materialising in the sim.
Looking forward for your response,
Alex
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Hi guys,
just installed windows 7 again, and installed pmdg 747 then the standalone fsuipc, i get this error message when starting FSX,
Please can anyone help [new isntallion]
Best regards
Alex
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so i just got the Aerosoft Airbus
and i was setting some axis and stuff
and now
everytime i open fsx i get
i removed the dll file in modules and intalled again,
still nothing
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i just bought fsuipc from simmarket so i guess its the latest [4.4?]
i may have set some values in fsuipc, i think i need to calibrate my yoke just through fsuipc, but i need to read the manual again on how to do that
[can u reverse a level [
] like in defualt ms?
i set the sliders to how you said sir
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hi pete.
seems like every aircraft has the same symptom.
how can i get this sorted?
all the best
Alex
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ill get back to you pete :) thanks for your help
[a long haul from sao paulo to heathrow with bav peg and ivao is not easy to get out of ;) ]
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hi pete thanks for a speedy reply.
if i go to windows devices and have a look at the position of the axis in here
everything is 100% ok, slightly right and slightly left work absoltuley fine..
maybe a pmdg issue then?
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hi guys,
i recently bought fsuipc, and had a go at setting axis and stuff, but i dont think it went right, so i think i reset the defualts in fsuipc and went back to FSX control surfaces.
basically now, in the pmdg 747, [fsx], if i move the yoke slightly right, the pmdg yoke will go fully to the right.... if i do it left, there is no problem, it follows my yoke exactly.
i am using saitek pro flight with rudder pedals. i only noticed this since fsuipc was installed and i have configured my yoke again through fsx and there seems ot be no problems there
best regards
Alex
Dynamic Friction in P3d 3.35
in FSUIPC Support Pete Dowson Modules
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Sorry Pete,
I've been working away from pc for the last two months. I thought this was the first thing I updated.
Alex