Mark Hargrove

I *thought* I'd read that such codes existed but got all twisted up by looking at the 737NGX offsets document in the FSUIPC documents folder, realizing immediately this wasn't what I was looking for, and decided I'd just imagined reading about the codes. Thanks hugely for pointing me in the right direction! Just for posterity (or if anybody else is searching, the necessary codes and parameters are 70320 Control STAND Engine 1 Start lever --- Idle: 0 Cutoff: 1 70321 Control STAND Engine 2 Start lever --- Idle: 0 Cutoff: 1 ...and these work perfectly. Separately: Yeah, I noticed that duplication of the key press shortly after I made my post -- deleting the duplicate didn't help. There's something funky going on with this particular system -- as I mentioned earlier I tested on another virtually identical instance of my simulator cluster and button-to-keypresses worked just fine. Thanks again! -M.

With event logging turned on as well as buttons/switches logging I get: 405875 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Q), Btn=2, Pressed 405875 [Buttons] 14=PQ,2,K81,8 405875 SendKeyToFS(00000051=[Q], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 405875 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=81 (Scan code 16), Ctr=1 405984 SendKeyToFS(00000051=[Q], KEYUP) ctr=0 405984 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=81 (Scan code 16), Ctr=1 406047 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Q), Btn=2, Released 406062 [Buttons] 14=PQ,2,K81,8 ...but sound doesn't toggle. If I switch the button action over to a FS 'control' event like you did it toggles correctly (which didn't surprise me at all; all of the other buttons I have mapped are using 'FS control' actions and work perfectly). This particular button (which is eventually going to be just one of four button actions) is to control the PMDG 737NGX "Fuel Idle/Cutoff" levers. I'll be happy to be wrong, but from the reading I've done I think the only way to control those is to use the PMDG-defined keyboard shortcuts (in this case, ctl-shift-F1, F2, F3, F4 for all four of the necessary actions). That's what started me down this path -- in the past I've only "flown" simpler aircraft that had direct control actions for any buttons I wanted to setup. I've got a multi-PC setup and I plugged a plain-old joystick into one of the "slave" PCs, configured FSUIPC exactly the same way using a button on that joystick to toggle the parking brakes (no sound on that PC) with CTL-. (period) -- and it worked perfectly. Same version of FSUIPC and of P3D. I'm kind of stumped. My FSUPIC.ini file is: [General] UpdatedByVersion=4955c History=GZWLG5SDA0MTUH1JZ4XIN InitDelayDevicesToo=No Annotate=Yes NewInterceptTextMenu=No UseSystemTime=No UseMidMouseBtn=Yes MouseWheelMove=No MouseWheelTrim=No MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1 JoystickTimeout=20 PollGFTQ6=Yes BlankDisplays=No FixControlAccel=No FixMachSpeedBug=No NewDeleteVehiclesForAES=No AutoScanDevices=Yes AssignJoystickIDs=Yes VisibilityOptions=No OneCloudLayer=No CloudTurbulence=No CloudIcing=No GenerateCirrus=No SuppressCloudTurbulence=No MaxIce=-4 MinIce=-4 UpperWindGusts=No SuppressWindTurbulence=No SuppressWindVariance=No WindTurbulence=No TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0 TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40 SuppressAllGusts=No MaxSurfaceWind=0 WindLimitLevel=200 WindDiscardLevel=400 WindAjustAltitude=No WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000 SmoothBySimTime=No WindSmoothing=No WindSmoothness=2 WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes PressureSmoothness=0 TemperatureSmoothness=0 DisconnTrimForAP=No ZeroElevForAPAlt=No ThrottleSyncAll=No WhiteMessages=No ShowPMcontrols=No SpoilerIncrement=512 MagicBattery=No RudderSpikeRemoval=No ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No AileronSpikeRemoval=No ReversedElevatorTrim=No ClockSync=No ClockSyncMins=5 ClearWeatherDynamics=No OwnWeatherChanges=No TimeForSelect=4 LoadFlightMenu=No LoadPlanMenu=No PauseAfterCrash=No BrakeReleaseThreshold=75 SaveDataWithFlights=No ZapSound=firework ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring UseProfiles=Yes EnableMouseLook=No DelayedMouseLookZoom=No AxesWrongRange=No TCASid=Flight TCASrange=40 AxisCalibration=No DirectAxesToCalibs=No ShowMultilineWindow=Yes SuppressSingleline=No SuppressMultilineFS=No AxisIntercepts=No DontResetAxes=No InitDelay=0 GetNearestAirports=No LogOptionProtect=Yes OOMcheck=Yes OOMcheckInterval=10 WeatherReadFactor=2 WeatherRewriteSeconds=1 CustomWeatherModify=No SimConnectStallTime=1 InitialStallTime=10 NormalStallTime=1 LuaRerunDelay=66 Console=Yes ConsoleWindow=-1123,95,-126,683 LogEvents=Yes LogButtonsKeys=Yes FSVersionUsed="Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v3",3.3.3.3 SimConnectUsed=3.3.0.0 [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=No Y=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke Y.GUID={92343EF0-3542-11E6-8006-444553540000} Q=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant Q.GUID={92348D10-3542-11E6-8009-444553540000} R=Saitek Pro Flight Cessna Rudder Pedals R.GUID={92350240-3542-11E6-800A-444553540000} T=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant T.GUID={92357770-3542-11E6-800D-444553540000} 0=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke 0.GUID={92343EF0-3542-11E6-8006-444553540000} 1=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant 1.GUID={92348D10-3542-11E6-8009-444553540000} 2=Saitek Pro Flight Cessna Rudder Pedals 2.GUID={92350240-3542-11E6-800A-444553540000} 3=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant 3.GUID={92357770-3542-11E6-800D-444553540000} [Axes] PollInterval=10 RangeRepeatRate=10 0=YX,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 1=YY,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- 2=QX,256,D,9,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }- 3=QY,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 4=QZ,256,D,17,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch1 }- 5=RX,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 6=RY,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 7=RR,256,D,3,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Rudder }- 8=TX,256,D,18,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: PropPitch2 }- 9=TY,256,D,13,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture1 }- 10=TZ,256,D,14,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture2 }- [Buttons] PollInterval=25 ButtonRepeat=20,10 1=RY,38,C65671,0 -{PAN_LEFT}- 2=RY,32,C65734,0 -{PAN_UP}- 3=RY,34,C65672,0 -{PAN_RIGHT}- 4=RY,36,C65735,0 -{PAN_DOWN}- 5=PY,0,C1001,0 -{PTT Transmit On (SB3,RW,AVC)}- 6=UY,0,C1002,0 -{PTT Transmit Off (SB3,RW,AVC)}- 7=RY,2,C65607,0 -{ELEV_TRIM_DN}- 8=RY,3,C65615,0 -{ELEV_TRIM_UP}- 9=RY,7,C66279,0 -{RUDDER_TRIM_RIGHT}- 10=RY,6,C66278,0 -{RUDDER_TRIM_LEFT}- 11=PY,1,C65791,0 -{AUTOPILOT_OFF}- 12=PQ,0,C65752,0 -{PARKING_BRAKES}- 13=PQ,1,K190,10 -{Key press: ctl+.>key}- 14=PQ,2,K81,8 -{Key press: Q}- 15=PQ,2,K81,8 -{Key press: Q}- [AutoSave] Next=1 Interval=60 Files=10 SaveOnGround=No AutoSaveEnabled=No [GPSout] GPSoutEnabled=No [GPSout2] GPSoutEnabled=No [WideServer] WideFSenabled=Yes [Sounds] Path=C:\Prepar3D v3.3\Sound\ Device1=Primary Sound Driver Device2=Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) Device3=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) Device4=SAMSUNG (2- High Definition Audio Device) Device5=Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device) [JoystickCalibration] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16384,-512,512,16383 Elevator=-16319,-512,512,16160 Rudder=-16384,-512,512,16383 LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16 RightBrake=-16384,16383/16 [Profile.PMDG737NGX] 1=PMDG 737-800NGX PMDG House Winglets [Axes.PMDG737NGX] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=YX,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 1=YY,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- 2=QX,256,D,22,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Spoilers }- 3=QZ,256,D,9,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }- 4=RX,256,D,7,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }- 5=RY,256,D,8,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }- 6=RR,256,D,3,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Rudder }- 7=TX,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 8=TY,256,D,13,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Mixture1 }- 9=TZ,256,D,23,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Flaps }- [JoystickCalibration.PMDG737NGX] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16384,-512,512,16383 Elevator=-16319,-512,512,16160 Rudder=-16384,-512,512,16383 LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16 RightBrake=-16384,16383/16 Throttle1=-16253,-512,512,16383 Throttle2=-16384,-512,512,16256 SyncSlopeThrottle2=31/29,90/89,127/128 Spoilers=-16384,16256/16 Flaps=-16384,16383/16 [Buttons.PMDG737NGX] 0=RQ,8,C65966,0 -{THROTTLE1_DECR}- 1=UQ,8,C65967,0 -{THROTTLE1_CUT}- 2=RT,6,C65971,0 -{THROTTLE2_DECR}- 3=UT,6,C65972,0 -{THROTTLE2_CUT}- 4=PQ,4,K113,11 -{Key press: ctl+shft+F2}- 5=PQ,5,K112,11 -{Key press: ctl+shft+F1}- 6=PT,0,K115,11 -{Key press: ctl+shft+F4}- 7=PT,1,K114,11 -{Key press: ctl+shft+F3}-

I've been using FSUIPC for years but just recently have tried to map a button press to a keypress event for the first time. The process seems simple -- but when the button is pressed (on one of my Saitek throttle quadrants), it doesn't actually do anything. I'm running P3D v3.3.5 Professional Plus and FSUIPC v4.955c. To make troubleshooting easier, I mapped 'Q' (toggle sound) to a button. The fsuipc.ini file definition is: 14=PQ,2,K81,8 -{Key press: Q}- When I run the sim with logging for buttons and keys turned on, I see the following in the console log when I press the mapped button: 503891 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Q), Btn=2, Pressed 503891 [Buttons] 14=PQ,2,K81,8 503891 SendKeyToFS(00000051=[Q], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 503906 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=81 (Scan code 16), Ctr=1 504000 SendKeyToFS(00000051=[Q], KEYUP) ctr=0 504000 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=81 (Scan code 16), Ctr=1 504031 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Q), Btn=2, Released 504031 [Buttons] 14=PQ,2,K81,8 ...which sure seems to indicate that 'Q' was sent to the sim -- but the sound does not toggle off. Simply typing 'Q' from the keyboard produces: 752375 KEYDOWN: VK=81, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 752375 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 752547 KEYUP: VK=81, Waiting=0 ...and the sound does toggle. I'm at a bit of a loss here -- does anybody have any suggestions for further troubleshooting? -M.

That explains things perfectly. Thanks Pete! -M.

I found the issue, but I don't really understand it. As I think I said earlier, I'm completely bypassing all P3D axis processing and setting each axis to 'Send Direct to FSUIPC Calibration'. I've always done my setup this way since my earliest days of using FSUIPC with FSX. When I initially calibrate the mixture lever axes, I see minimum and maximum values in the -16000-ish to +16000-ish range (as I see with all of the quadrant levers). The In/Out values on the left side of window seem to reflect the raw values pretty much exactly. When I set the deadzone (which I define as the minimum value to just a little above that, so like -16000, -15900), though, the OUT value on the left changes to 8192. This happens on both of the lever axes that are assigned to mixture. I don't recall this happening before, and it doesn't happen when doing exactly the same calibration (and setting exactly the same dead zones) on the four throttle and prop axes. If I disable processing for the two mixture axes, the levers work correctly. This is true for three aircraft that I've checked, two stock aircraft (the Baron and the Mooney) and the Carenado Skymaster add-on aircraft. Any idea what might be going on? I strongly suspect I'm doing something wrong and just not seeing it. -M.

Mixture still does not work, even with a stock P3D aircraft and even after a reinstallation of P3Dv3 (but I didn't do the "clean" installation that I intended; i.e., removing all traces of the previous installation before re-installing). Console logging shows 'mixture set' messages for the appropriate axis when I move the levers. Curiously, I also see a continuous 'spoiler set' message scrolling as fast as the display can go -- but I don't have a spoiler axis assigned. I've going to try reversing the assignments of the prop and mixture axes to see if that has any effect, I'll also try disabling axis calibration as you suggested in the message above, and finally I'll do a "clean" reinstall of P3D if nothing else seems to work. This is very odd. I've been using this same setup for, basically, years without issue. -M.

This is indeed with an add-on aircraft, the Carenado Cessna 337 Skymaster. I've been flying it for so many years that I don't really thing of it as an add-on anymore :-) --but it is. I'll start first by reinstalling the aircraft because another slightly weird (non-FSUIPC-related) thing is also going on). Looking at axis logging is an excellent next step if re-installing the aircraft doesn't work. Thanks! -M.

After a recent hardware upgrade of my sim which required a complete re-installation of everything (Windows 10, P3D v3.1, FSUIPC 4.949), I'm having an odd problem I've never seen before. I have dual-Saitek throttle quadrants installed (via USB) giving me Throttle 1&2, Prop 1&2 and Mixture 1&2. All six axes are recognized by FSUIPC, assigned as 'direct' axes, and 'Joystick Calibration' proceeds completely normally -- but the two 'mixture' axes are completely ignored by the sim when moved. Throttle and Prop work normally. I've used FSUIPC for many years and have done this particular setup with this exact same quadrant hardware many times over the years with no issue. I've deleted my fsuipc.ini file and redone assignments and calibration. I've removed and reinstalled FSUIPC and redone assignments and calibration. I've verified that the P3D controls are disabled. Mixture 1 & 2 are just being not recognized by the sim even though FSUIPC sees them. My next step, I guess, is to try reinstalling P3D itself, but I thought I'd post the issue here too to see if there are any other thoughts about what might be going on. -M.