Tobias Gruber

yes its part of the flight1 tech g1000 student simulator, its the interface dll that allows connection via a remote machine Tobias

its called F1HOSTP3DV3.dll I'd like to stress that I am not saying that its broken, as I am the only one its not working for it seems, they are investigating. Tobias

I haven't updated yet but I did find the offender that was causing the issue, but I do seem to be rather alone with that problem... It was an interface dll for a standalone software that interfaces with the simulator, so removing that entry from the dll.xml fixed the issue, as it so often happens to be I could've saved myself and others a lot of time had i just tried a clean dll.xml....I'm in contact with the developer to see if it can be fixed though Tobias

ok small update just did a full wipe and clean reinstall of 3.0 aaaaaaand it works! everything is back to the way it should be...now for the laborious process of reinstalling addons one by one carefully Tobias

Yes, I'm aware of the Client installers...problem is I already tried rolling back to 3.0 to no avail, the issue still presists....so the next step would be a full wipe of the p3d install BUT, I don't know if thats gonna solve the issue... I don't suspect there are any registry values p3d writes to save controller data? Outside of the standardcontrols.xml and calibration.xml with 3.1 I wish I had even a remote clue as to whats going on or whats causing this behaviour Tobias

Yes one throttle for all engines, if i assign one as throttle 1 and the other as throttle 2 it wont work either, even with using the RAW checkbox and whatever else... It seems to be a P3D problem for sure, i just tried my FSX:SE fsuipc.ini and no change....still the same problems.. Yes the log does show the axis and correct values being send to P3D, the log itself looks fine too, but heres a short snippet from the log to check yourself 349797 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 16383 (0x00003fff) THROTTLE_SET 350985 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 15809 (0x00003dc1) THROTTLE_SET 351031 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 12121 (0x00002f59) THROTTLE_SET 351094 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 7463 (0x00001d27) THROTTLE_SET 351141 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 1454 (0x000005ae) THROTTLE_SET 351188 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -3630 (0xfffff1d2) THROTTLE_SET 351235 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -7867 (0xffffe145) THROTTLE_SET 351297 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -11397 (0xffffd37b) THROTTLE_SET 351344 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -13417 (0xffffcb97) THROTTLE_SET 351391 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -15257 (0xffffc467) THROTTLE_SET 351438 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -16384 (0xffffc000) THROTTLE_SET 353313 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -16083 (0xffffc12d) THROTTLE_SET 353360 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -15813 (0xffffc23b) THROTTLE_SET 353406 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -15483 (0xffffc385) THROTTLE_SET 353453 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -15161 (0xffffc4c7) THROTTLE_SET 353516 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -14839 (0xffffc609) THROTTLE_SET 353563 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -14579 (0xffffc70d) THROTTLE_SET 353610 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -14273 (0xffffc83f) THROTTLE_SET 353672 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -13999 (0xffffc951) THROTTLE_SET 353719 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -13701 (0xffffca7b) THROTTLE_SET 353766 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -13427 (0xffffcb8d) THROTTLE_SET 353813 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -13097 (0xffffccd7) THROTTLE_SET 353875 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -12833 (0xffffcddf) THROTTLE_SET 353922 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -12545 (0xffffceff) THROTTLE_SET 353969 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -12281 (0xffffd007) THROTTLE_SET 354078 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -12005 (0xffffd11b) THROTTLE_SET 354125 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -11703 (0xffffd249) THROTTLE_SET 354172 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -11419 (0xffffd365) THROTTLE_SET 354281 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -11105 (0xffffd49f) THROTTLE_SET 354328 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -10829 (0xffffd5b3) THROTTLE_SET 354422 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -10565 (0xffffd6bb) THROTTLE_SET 354531 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -10287 (0xffffd7d1) THROTTLE_SET 354688 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -10013 (0xffffd8e3) THROTTLE_SET 354828 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -9749 (0xffffd9eb) THROTTLE_SET 354938 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -9469 (0xffffdb03) THROTTLE_SET 355094 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -9195 (0xffffdc15) THROTTLE_SET 355281 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -8931 (0xffffdd1d) THROTTLE_SET 355438 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -8609 (0xffffde5f) THROTTLE_SET 355547 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -8345 (0xffffdf67) THROTTLE_SET 355594 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -8057 (0xffffe087) THROTTLE_SET 355688 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -7765 (0xffffe1ab) THROTTLE_SET 355750 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -7509 (0xffffe2ab) THROTTLE_SET 355797 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -7239 (0xffffe3b9) THROTTLE_SET 355891 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -6975 (0xffffe4c1) THROTTLE_SET 356000 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -6715 (0xffffe5c5) THROTTLE_SET 356203 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -6457 (0xffffe6c7) THROTTLE_SET 356406 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -6201 (0xffffe7c7) THROTTLE_SET 361110 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -5923 (0xffffe8dd) THROTTLE_SET 361203 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -5607 (0xffffea19) THROTTLE_SET 361313 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -5350 (0xffffeb1a) THROTTLE_SET 361406 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -5076 (0xffffec2c) THROTTLE_SET 361516 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -4816 (0xffffed30) THROTTLE_SET 362016 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -4552 (0xffffee38) THROTTLE_SET 362125 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -4274 (0xffffef4e) THROTTLE_SET 362172 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -3998 (0xfffff062) THROTTLE_SET 362266 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -3738 (0xfffff166) THROTTLE_SET 362328 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -3450 (0xfffff286) THROTTLE_SET 362375 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -3158 (0xfffff3aa) THROTTLE_SET 362469 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -2876 (0xfffff4c4) THROTTLE_SET 362578 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -2620 (0xfffff5c4) THROTTLE_SET 362672 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -2346 (0xfffff6d6) THROTTLE_SET 362781 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -2080 (0xfffff7e0) THROTTLE_SET 362938 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -1820 (0xfffff8e4) THROTTLE_SET 363031 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -1556 (0xfffff9ec) THROTTLE_SET 363141 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -1292 (0xfffffaf4) THROTTLE_SET 363235 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -1022 (0xfffffc02) THROTTLE_SET 363344 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -744 (0xfffffd18) THROTTLE_SET 363531 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -452 (0xfffffe3c) THROTTLE_SET 363688 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -188 (0xffffff44) THROTTLE_SET 363891 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 70 (0x00000046) THROTTLE_SET 364141 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 330 (0x0000014a) THROTTLE_SET 366266 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 60 (0x0000003c) THROTTLE_SET 366360 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -210 (0xffffff2e) THROTTLE_SET 366469 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -474 (0xfffffe26) THROTTLE_SET 366610 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -734 (0xfffffd22) THROTTLE_SET 367625 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -476 (0xfffffe24) THROTTLE_SET 367875 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= -216 (0xffffff28) THROTTLE_SET 368172 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 42 (0x0000002a) THROTTLE_SET 368688 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 298 (0x0000012a) THROTTLE_SET 370250 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 576 (0x00000240) THROTTLE_SET 370453 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 846 (0x0000034e) THROTTLE_SET 370594 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 1104 (0x00000450) THROTTLE_SET 370703 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 1366 (0x00000556) THROTTLE_SET 370906 *** AXIS: Cntrl= 65697 (0x000100a1), Param= 1634 (0x00000662) THROTTLE_SET the fact that it works just fine with fsx:se makes me pretty certain its a p3d issue unfortunately....and I dread a complete wipe and re-install of everything to be honest, hence I was trying to find a solution where I could avoid that but I guess theres none unless LM fix it... thank you very very much for your help though Pete....always good to talk to somebody who knows what they're doing Tobias

okay! sorry for the doublepost but here goes... the range for the throttles, HOTAS Warthog throttles as i prefer those, is -16384 to +16383, so near "perfect" heres the throttle all the way back: here all the way forward: and here the calibration tab: doing this, the throttles do not respond in the simulator, they are clearly detected and working but alas, no response in the sim... Tobias

Alright I'll compile a set of screenshots to show you exactly what i'm seeing on a further note: after i made this post i tried with my old FSX:SE installation and they work just fine! which makes it even weirder.... Tobias

Hello gentlemen, I posted this over at the LM forums aswell as I'm quite lost and would like to use all possible help I can get so, expanding on it, and this is also where FSUIPC comes into play: I want to assign all my controls through fsuipc and fsuipc alone HOWEVER the issue quoted above prevents me from doing so the "enable controls" checkbox is unchecked in p3d, aileron and elevators work just fine on my yoke, but the throttles still present a major problem for some reason basically what i've discovered is the following: 1. If i assign a thorttle axis through the P3D controls they dont work, however assinging things like mixture or prop to the same physical throttle work just fine! 2. If i assign a throttle axis through the FSUIPC send to FS as normal axis dialoge, same as 1. 3. If i assign a throttle axis through the FSUIPC calibration, same as 1. 4. If i assign a throttle axis through the FSUIPC send to FS as normal axis but WITH the "RAW" checkbox checked the throttle WORKS however it is inverted! 5. If i assign a throttle axis through the FSUIPC send to FS as normal axis as above and use the *-1 flag to invert it in the .ini file it STOPS working again... i can reproduce this exact behavior with the hotas warthog throttle aswell as my saitek pro flight throttle that came with the cessna yoke. using p3d 3.1, the latest FSUIPC version and windows 10, P3D is installed on a non-standard path, UAC on my system is disabled, I have tried a complete uninstall and reinstall of my controller drivers, and as quoted above i have deleted the standard xml and p3d.cfgs several times to no avail, even rolling back to p3d 3.0 does not solve the problem there are no configuration or software changes to my machine within the last couple of days that could cause this issue to happen...so i am literally at the very end of my wisdom and utterly lost as to what to do has anybody experienced issues like these before? any help would be greatly appreciated as i'm getting more and more frustrated with this best Tobias

just to chime in on this im seeing the exact same behaviour, running windows 10 and FSX:SE...seems to be especially prevalent with PMDG aircraft for me as pete outlined above, but noticeable to a lesser degree on other aircraft i fly... i looked into what jumpmonkey suggested but that didnt yield anything as superfetch and prefetch are operating normally....i have FSUIPCs autosave turned off for the time being and use my VA's ACARS autosave feature instead, not sure if that works okay with panel states on PMDG birds but well.... lets hope that somehow gets resolved with a win10 update eventually