speedbird144

OK. I did registry trick and not sure if it helped. I'll try to use plain language. What I have found is when I assign the left lever of TQ to Throttle 1, Throttle 2, for both Engines at the same time (Throttle mode in the tab) or spoiler it works fine and smooth with no spikes. When I assign the middle lever to Throttle 1/2 or right lever to Throttle 1/2 (was trying to swap each other to see if it works) so they do not work. If assign middle or right lever for just Throttle (not separate) or for speedbrake they both works but with spikes, no smooth movements. I used options Send to FSUIPC, because with Send to FS do not work. As for No reverse zone" option, I enable it, no difference with middle and right lever. Work with the left lever. I ran myself in a deep forest and I am trying to understand what the heck I've done. :shock:

Q. Aha, so you are trying to use Saitek software for assigning and controlling things AND FSUIPC too? There may be some conflict from using both. Saitek said it was not really calibrating until you hit OK, that editior may be used for controls checking before actually applying calibration. Well. Thanks for all your help. I will go ahead and spend some time with Saitek to see, may be there is something wrong with registry (like you said) or something else. May be I'll buy another throttle quadrant (other than Saitek). Wil see. Thank you.

I was trying to save space here... Yes, it is NGX. Saitek forum is locked, currently they do not accept new registration due to spam issues. I'll try to email tech support. When I adjusted INI file as you suggested thrust reverses started working. When I place throttler into full reward (aft) position below friction notch, reverses levers pull to On position and I can see engine thrust drops as supposed to. It means to me reverse is working. Q.I seem to remember that this is a bug in the Saitek installers or similar and is fixed by a Registry patch. If this is the problem you had originally, before trying FSUIPC, then I can understand your frustration -- which should actually be vented at Saitek. It could be bug but everything worked perfect until the day when I had to re-install FSX and was trying to set up controls from the beginning. It is really frustrating. Q. You say "reverser seems to be working"! On an axis? Different axes? Different axes. I have checked throttle lever movements via saitke profile editor and they are moving smooth, no spikes. Saitek says if all controls movement has normal indications in Profile editor, it means controls working fine.

I though attaching file will be better. Thank you. FSUIPC.pdf

Will it be easier for all of us if we forget about revers or I have to assign revers in anyway? I mean I can use button for revers thrust. If we can make full thrust and idle only will it be easier? I'll do research on PMDG as well. Thank you.

Thank you. My Windows crashed few weeks ago and I had to start over. Maybe the was part of problem. Throttles were major issues. I will try to apply these adjustments for default aircraft. The final goal is to make it work in PMDG NGX. Thank you.

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OK Mr. Pete. It’s been said a lot here. I really don’t want to post lengthy topics here but I still need help. I don’t want to make this place as a battlefield. I will try to do that again tomorrow and see what It does. I will reinstall all drivers again and re-check FS controls setting. Maybe I missed something (but I did it twice already). If still no progress I will probably show every step I did in details. When/if you have a time please share your thoughts with me. I know where documentation is and I want you to help me. Will also try to paste INI file. PS. “It is a bit wierd that the elevator, throttles, aileron and rudder are set up then calibrated in 2 separate tabs within FSUIPC…” Q. Huh? if you think that you are completely misunderstanding things. maybe English is not your main language? That was not my statement. One of the simmer is trying to help. I will ask him, if English is his first or fifth language. His is trying to help me and appreciate it. I cannot ignore a person who is trying to help. As for me, true, English is not my first one. I speak 4 languages, English is the second one. :) Regards.

Sir. I am sorry I made you confused. Looks to me it’s interpretation issue here. I will try to explain it once again to make it clearer. I am confused even more than you. I am still trying to understand why I purchased FSUIPC. Sounds silly but it is what it is. I went on Saitek and PMDG NGX forum and posted issues I was having. I received many responses and all of them were saying the same- Buy registered version of FSUIPC and all my problems with controls would go away. I’ve heard a lot about of FSUIPC and I know it is good software; I just need to understand how to use it right. One of the suggestion was: “Important: Delete all the axis settings within FSX (ie aileron, elevator, rudder, throttles, brakes)It is a bit wierd that the elevator, throttles, aileron and rudder are set up then calibrated in 2 separate tabs within FSUIPC.Ihave yet to do FSUIPC mouse macros and buttons, I still use saitek smart-tech for buttons, but will use FSUIPC when I get around to it.” Manual states: “REASSIGNMENT OF THROTTLE QUADRANT AXES WITH FSUIPC” and steps how to that. So that’s why I said I was trying to assign throttles via FSUIPC. So I don’t know the right wording when I’m dealing with FSUIPC, if I should say Assign or Set up controls, axes…whatever. So my goal is to make my controls working. I was advised by many users to delete all the axis settings within FSX (ie aileron, elevator, rudder, throttles, brakes) and do that within FSUIPC and disable controls in FSX settings and I did that. Q. I asked, what is it you want to achieve by assigning in FSUIPC instead of FSX? The main use of FS to improve controls is calibration. Assignment in FSUIPC is not necessary for proper and accurate calibration. When I used FS calibration it messed up all throttle quadrant completely and folks on forums suggested me stop doing this within FSX and go with FSUIPC. Q. So not when you assigned in FSUIPC, only calibrated? I had assigned and calibrated within FSUIPC. Is this with default FSX aircraft? Yes. Q. How did you calibrate -- following the numbered steps in the User Guide? Sorry, but for me it was lack of information on original FSUIPC user guide came with download and I had to use additional one from SimSamurai. The person who wrote it explained it in very details how to assign and calibrate controls. I used those steps carefully. I am not saying original manual worse but for me it was a bit difficult to understand. I believe when I get more experience using FSUIPC I will be using original manual more often. It’s just me, nothing personal. Sorry. Q. Assigning or calibrating? You are confusing me now. If you assign in FSUIPC to the FS controls it is exactly the same as assigning in FS. If you assign in FSUIPC "direct to FSUIPC calibration" then you MUST then calibrate -- that's what it means "direct to calibration". Like I said most of users advised me not to deal with FSX anymore, delete all axes and disable controls in FS settings and go to FSUIPC. And I did. I was trying to assign (I hope the wordings is right, huh..) controls in FSUIPC and calibrate them as well inside of FSUIPC. I left FS alone. I hope at this time I explained my problem better. If not, please be patient to me, I am still learning. Thank you.

Thank you for the response. "First off, why do you want to assign axes in FSUIPC? That's a facility mainly airmed at those either wishing to have different controls automatically assigned for different aircraft types, or for those wishing to do unusual things with their axes or to assign axes which aren't supported by FS directly. You can calibrate controls in FSUIPC even when they are assigned in FS, and that is the more usual way to proceed. FSUIPC has offered those facilities for a very long time. The axis assignments were added for cockpit builders and those more ambitious users." Sorry. I might be misspelled something, I was trying to assign controls using those tabs you were saying about. I was able to assign one of the lever for speedbrake via FSUIPC. That one seems to work fine. I know my saitek pro yoke and pedals work. Problems began when I re-installed FSX and after assigning controls via FSX they worked till I calibrated it within FSX. I was trying to assign each lever for each engine and problems began. Everything worked fine except thrust lever. It spikes power very fast. When I disabled and deleted everything in FSX and went to FSUIPC I was able to assign spoiler lever only. Throttles still messed up. Rudder pedals and yoke don't work as well (like I said it worked in FSX fine). So I am more than sure controls are operable. Either I am doing something wrong withing FSUIPC or there is something else I do not understand. Thank you.

Hello everyone. I am new guy here and of course people like me has lots of questions right away. I purchased FSUIPC and I already have issues. After spending few days reading manuals (including simsamuray ) I was unable to assign any controls other than spoiler lever. I spend whole day today but still no luck. I followed exactly same procedures as shown in all manuals but still no luck. FSX does not see my saitek controls. I was trying to find a right topic for me but there are 300+ pages and if I read all of them I will turn 60. If anyone had same issues at the beginning please point me out to the right place where I can find more information how to assign Axis in FSUIPC. Like I said I was following all steps in manuals carefully but no luck. FSUIPC is not doing anything for me at the moment. Thank you.