filippoporcari

hi pete, always appreciated your fast replies and work! i didn't want to appear "nasty" because criticism is far from my normal attitude...,i found your way of facing my statements a bit too critic. but nevermind...talking (writing) helps communication as it did in this occasion at least on my side. in your post sent late yesterday night (or early this morning) u said the key was sent to fs which is fully correct...could have helped if U wrote that it appeared the command was not received....but now everything is clear...and i can investigate and hopefully report to u all the best fil

to add something...just did another test: assigned to a joy button the key Q.....as expected pushing the joy button did not toggle the sound...pushing the physical Q letter on the keyboard toggled the sound. the log: 73250 [Buttons] 1=P0,0,K81,8 73250 SendKeyToFS(00000051=[Q], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 73266 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=81 (Scan code 16), Ctr=1 73359 SendKeyToFS(00000051=[Q], KEYUP) ctr=0 73359 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=81 (Scan code 16), Ctr=1 73484 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=0, Released 73484 [Buttons] 1=P0,0,K81,8 74625 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=0, Pressed 74625 [Buttons] 1=P0,0,K81,8 74625 SendKeyToFS(00000051=[Q], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 74625 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=81 (Scan code 16), Ctr=1 74734 SendKeyToFS(00000051=[Q], KEYUP) ctr=0 74734 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=81 (Scan code 16), Ctr=1 74906 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=0, Released 74906 [Buttons] 1=P0,0,K81,8 77656 KEYDOWN: VK=81, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 77656 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 77781 KEYUP: VK=81, Waiting=0 78563 KEYDOWN: VK=81, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 78563 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 78703 KEYUP: VK=81, Waiting=0 81156 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=0, Pressed 81156 [Buttons] 1=P0,0,K81,8 81156 SendKeyToFS(00000051=[Q], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 81156 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=81 (Scan code 16), Ctr=1 81297 SendKeyToFS(00000051=[Q], KEYUP) ctr=0 81297 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=81 (Scan code 16), Ctr=1 81422 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=0, Released 81422 [Buttons] 1=P0,0,K81,8 84344 KEYDOWN: VK=27, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 84344 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS at my unexperienced eye i see a difference when physical keyboard buttons are pressed the line 77656 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS says PASSED ON TO FS....when joy button are pressed there's no PASSED word in the log but 81156 SendKeyToFS(00000051=[Q], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 ...is that still correct to your experienced eye? those lines in my unexperienced opinion look different from the lines in the log u posted above about your test on the win10 machine...i wanted to perform the exact same test u did because i'm not a programmer but a pragmatic person fil

hi peter, and thx for your reply. i didn't push the button "hundred" of times to create "hundred of examples" but just for personal testing purposes while sim was running. i reported the full log session with "hundred of examples" because i didn't know which lines could interest u or not (u know i'm not a programmer). to answer your question: yes i see that line! and NO i don't know the real meaning of it (i can guess it means the command was sent to FS ) because as stated above i'm a location sound mixer and not a programmer...that's why i was asking to the programmer. no one knows what happened afterwards...one thing is sure CTRL+F9 triggers the show/hide ivap panel....and pushing CTRL+F9 on the keyboard shows/hides ivap....pushing the joy button doesn't show/hide it even if the command is sent to FS. as stated in my very first post i didn't write u to "accuse" fsuipc of not doing its job...but just to make u aware of a potential issue other users could write about. as stated again never had problems with buttons-to-key in the past (win xp/fs9...win7/fsx, p3d 2 and steam) but now with p3d 3.3.5/win10 the problem is there and it is a fact: made two clean installations of win10 and the problem is still there. what i'm a bit astonished about is your way of face a potential issue: i imagine u get tons of messages, emails from people claiming for a solution....i fully understand your point "it's not fsuipc concerned, fsuipc does its job" and i would probably behave the same if i were in your shoes. what i didn't expect was all that rhetorical questioning and that pointing the finger as if the user is always responsible to have created a mess in the computer, the user can't read lines and the user has no programming skills to understand lines of code....well sadly peter the user is free not to be a programmer...and also if being a poor street man is entitled to get respectful answers as a customer. the fact u created and still fully support/update one of the MOST USEFUL AND POWERFUL utilities for flight simulation doesn't entitle u to threat customers like idiots. all the best fil

hi peter, sorry to disturb again but i tried again enabling fsuipc buttons logging... i tried pushing many times a joy button whom has been assigned sending the key CTRL+F9 after that i quit the sim pushing the ESC key. this is the log i got: 135281 LogOptions changed, now 40000000 00000001 155969 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 155969 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 155969 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 155969 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 155984 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 156109 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 156109 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 156125 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 156203 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 156203 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 156609 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 156609 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 156609 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 156625 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 156641 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 156719 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 156719 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 156734 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 156781 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 156781 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 157734 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 157734 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 157734 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 157750 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 157766 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 157844 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 157844 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 157859 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 157984 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 157984 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 168625 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 168625 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 168625 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 168625 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 168641 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 168750 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 168766 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 168781 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 168891 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 168891 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 169266 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 169266 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 169266 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 169266 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 169281 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 169375 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 169375 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 169391 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 169531 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 169531 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 170281 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 170281 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 170281 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 170297 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 170313 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 170391 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 170391 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 170406 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 170453 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 170453 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 171281 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 171281 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 171281 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 171281 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 171297 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 171406 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 171422 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 171438 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 171484 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 171484 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 171891 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 171891 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 171891 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 171891 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 171906 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 172031 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 172031 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 172047 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 172125 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 172125 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 172938 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 172938 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 172938 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 172953 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 172969 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 173047 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 173047 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 173063 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 173156 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 173156 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 173359 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 173359 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 173359 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 173359 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 173375 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 173484 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 173500 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 173516 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 173531 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 173531 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 174688 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 174688 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 174688 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 174688 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 174703 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 174813 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 174828 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 174844 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 174922 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 174922 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 175297 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 175297 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 175297 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 175297 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 175313 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 175438 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 175438 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 175453 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 175531 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 175531 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 179953 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 179953 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 179953 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 179953 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 179969 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 180094 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 180094 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 180109 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 180156 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 180156 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 180391 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 180391 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 180391 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 180391 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 180406 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 180500 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 180500 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 180516 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 180594 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 180594 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 180906 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 180906 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 180906 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 180906 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 180922 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 181031 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 181047 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 181063 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 181078 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 181078 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 181281 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 181281 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 181281 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 181281 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 181297 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 181406 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 181422 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 181438 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 181453 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 181453 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 181578 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Pressed 181578 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 181578 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 181578 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=2 181594 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=1 181688 SendKeyToFS(00020078=[ctl+F9], KEYUP) ctr=0 181688 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=120 (Scan code 67), Ctr=2 181703 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=17 (Control) (Scan code 29), Ctr=1 181750 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=0, Btn=2, Released 181750 [Buttons] 7=P0,2,K120,10 184063 KEYDOWN: VK=27, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 184063 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 184078 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 48 secs = 29.3 fps does everything look correct to u? was the key CTRL+F9 sent to FS? thx again fil

i feel necessary a reply from my side... sorry if i generated confusion of course it was not in my mind. i don't see the contraddictions u encountered but nevermind. i just tried to make a report of what i changed in my system and which results i had...of course i thought win10 was responsible and that's why i attached the two links in my first post. sorry to have confused u peter and thx for your time fil

of course win10 and p3d were a change...they were THE change :) after that nothing was changed in the system apart windows updates...which never gave me this kind of issues. i'm in the cockpit buildings for some 12 years now...built a 737 dstd...then a 320 dstd which i currently own and fly...sorry if i was confusing, not my intention indeed. so if the windows updated could have caused this...this should be windows related. regards fil

hi peter, i'll check windows services and report but this looks strange to me. yes win10 was a huge change...but as reported during first days it worked flawlessly now not. believe me NO CHANGES at all when all this started...that's why i'm puzzled. sorry for KEYSEND....my mistake of course i meant button(joy) to key. regards fil

hi peter, maybe i've not been clear: after they two win10 reinstalls ans after starting testings, flights and keysend working/not working nothing was changed in the system. the main change was switching to win 10 and p3d 3.3.5....that's all. yes all the windows updates are in... all the best fil

hi peter, thx SO MUCH for your fast reply ans your fast testing! (yed ssd speed is amazing :) ) i own a 320 homecockpit and on the server computer there's not so much running...btw i'll cross check it again and report to u asap. i'm running p3d 3.3.5....may be differences between fsx steam and p3d? what looks pretty strange here is that for the first week afterr the format and clean reinstall of everything keysends worked...then they started working some flights yes and some flights no...from 3 days they never work. i hate when things follow the random rule. i stress the point that NOTHING was changed in the system...no hardware and not a single line of new soft installed. an example: i have the PTT button of my sidesticks mapped to F12 thru fsuipc...F12 is assigned in Teamspeak...used this mapping for years starting from fs9 times....when button-to-key is not working the strange thing is that pressing F12 on the keyboard doesn't trigger the teamspeak ptt! only way to have it working is opening teamspeak window and pushing F12 on the keyboard with teamspeak in focus! this really looks odd and that's why i thought win10 or p3d was responsible because only differences in my setup are win10 and p3d 3.3.5. for your info this is a second win10 clean install because first time saw this i also thought win 10 could have been corrupted and so made a clean reinstall formatting. now i strongly doubt a second win10 corruption can occour :) thx really a lot for your time ans work fil

hi all. i'm also having troubles sending keystrokes non only thru FSUIPC but also using other programs. i was going to get crazy about this when i discovered this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31846863/sending-key-strokes-with-c-sharp-in-win10-outside-of-app and this http://visualbasic.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/visualbasic-l/win10-sendkeys-error-in-ide-5837488 i never got this problem in some 10 years...and now that i moved to win 10 for p3d 3.3.5 i got it! could win10 be responsible? all the best fil