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Thomas, I'll have PFC check out the controller. In the meantime, I'll manually configure the detents as shown in the User Guide. Interestingly, I checked and the PMDG 747-8i's flap detents, and they are similarly structured, but the bottom detents are somewhat further apart and it never caused me a problem. Thanks again for your assistance, Robert

Hi Thomas, As you requested, attached is a copy of my fsuipc6.ini as it pertains to the PMDG 737 NGXu. Please remember that in the fsupc GUI the Flaps pane indicates that there are 9 detents for the Flaps and that the increments are 4094. I don't see where this information is set forth in the ini settings. Thanks for your assistance. Robert Robert's fsuipc ini for PMDG 737 NGXu.pdf

I have a problem with my hardware flaps lever and the PMDG 737 NGXu in P3Dv5. I am using fsuipc 6. I am using a PFC USB TQ which has a flaps lever that is assigned and calibrated through fsuipc. The problem is that the detent settings are grossly uneven. For instance, the range of motion for Flaps 1, 2, 5, 10 and 15 takes up more than 4/5 of the lever’s entire range of motion. This means that Flaps 25, 30 and 40 are squeezed into the last 1/5 of the range of motion. It is almost impossible to set Flaps 30 because with the limited range of motion you almost always go from Flaps 25 to Flaps 40 instead. We’re talking about almost infinitesimal movement of the lever in this lower range between flap settings. Fsuipc indicates that there are 9 detents for the lever and that the increments are 4094. In all the years I’ve used fsuipc and the PMDG 737, I’ve never encountered this problem. There’s always been a sufficient space between flap settings so that the correct setting could be attained without making micro adjustments. Any thoughts on what might be the problem here and how I might fix it? Let me be clear. My lever does not have physical detents. It is a smooth flowing lever and has always relied on fsuipc’s ability to determine the number of detents and separate them accordingly over the lever’s range of motion. Thanks for your assistance. Robert

Good point. Indeed, I'm currently using your built-in utility for this purpose with my Saitek TQs and had forgotten that. I appreciate that whether I were to use fsuipc or your built-in utility, either should theoretically work with the PFC turboprop TQ. I was simply looking for some reassurance from someone who has actually been able to setup the detents with this particular hardware. PFC's sales department has been very discouraging in this regard. Essentially, they've told me to use X-Plane if I want to use their TQs. Due to their stiff restocking fee, I was hoping to get some further actual user feedback before taking the plunge. Thanks for your input. Robert

I would like to know if anyone has experience using the PFC USB turboprop TQ with the Real Air Turbo Duke v2 and the Majestic Q400. I am most interested in learning if you've been able to use fsuipc to program the detents built into the TQ for the beta range on these planes. Thanks, Robert

Pete, thanks for clarifying this for me. While awaiting your response, I ran across your Profiles in Separate Files announcement and think I will give it a try. It is a feature that may make the conversion process worthwhile for me. Thanks again for the support. Robert

Pete, thanks. Now, one more question, since you brought up the Profile facilities in fsuipc a few posts back. I’ve been reluctant to implement this feature because I go way back with fsuipc, and have stuck with using the “aircraft-specific” facilities for each plane in my hangar, which has worked well for me—though a bit tedious when changing hardware. Now that I’m about to change my yoke, pedals, joystick, and TQ, it may be time to reconsider the Profiles facilities you introduced several years ago. I appreciate that a single set of assignments for levers can work for a defined type of aircraft, e.g., single engine prop, twin engine prop, twin engine turbo, twin engine jet, etc. But what I’ve been concerned about—and what has prevented me from pursuing implementation of fsuipc’s Profile facilities—is how do I handle the unique characteristics of the various planes within these broad categories. For example, how do I use different slope settings for different aircraft within the same broad category such as twin engine jet? Do I have to setup a new profile for each jet aircraft, based on my default jet profile, and then edit it to include my slope settings for that particular aircraft if it doesn’t follow my default slope settings? Similarly, how do I customize different button commands for each plane’s popup windows within a broad category? I use my yoke buttons to popup 2D windows using the Shift+n commands. But each plane usually has different popups and different Shift+n assignments for these popups. So, again, do I have to setup a new profile, based on the default profile for that particular type of aircraft, and then edit it to include the specific button settings for that particular aircraft’s popup windows? Or is there a simpler way to accomplish this customization? If not, then, for me anyway, there seems to be no advantage to using Profiles. Thanks for your assistance. Robert

Pete, thanks for this important info. Let me make sure I understand what you’re saying about the PMDG and Airbus aircraft. I think you’re saying that I won’t be able to assign fsuipc’s reverser axis command (in the pull down command list on the left side of the axis assignment window) to the dedicated reverser levers on the PFC USB TQ. Instead, I will have to use P3D’s F2 key command. Here’s how I would anticipate utilizing this F2 command. Please let me know if this is what you have in mind. I would go to fsuipc’s Axis Assignment window and move the TQ’s dedicated reverser lever for Throttle 1 to select it. Then, in the right side area of the fsuipc window, I would setup a range for the upper part of the lever and assign it to the Throttle 1 Cut command in the pull down list. Then, I would setup a second range for the lower part of the lever and assign it to the Throttle 1 Decr command in the pull down list and have it repeat if found to be necessary. Then, I would repeat this process for the Throttle 2 reverser lever using the Throttle 2 commands. In this way I can utilize the PFC USB TQ’s dedicated reverser levers as though I’d assigned a reverser axis command to them. Am I on track? Thanks, Robert

In that case, here's what I'm most concerned about: 1. Will the PFC USB turboprop TQ work with the Real Air Turbo Duke v2 and the Majestic Q400? I am most interested in the ability to use fsuipc to program the detents built into the TQ for the beta range. 2. Will the PFC USB two-engine enhanced jet TQ work with the PMDG 737 and 777 and the Aerosoft Airbus? I am most interested in the ability to use fsuipc to program the TQ's dedicated reverser levers. Thanks, Robert

Thanks, Pete. I very much appreciate your prompt input. Now, I'd like to hear from anyone who is actually using the PFC USB TQs, and learn if they have any tips for setting them up with fsuipc. No one seems to post about this, and perhaps that indicates that it's really trouble free, which I hope is the case. Thanks, Robert

Before investing in the PFC jet throttle quadrant with dedicated reverser levers and the PFC turboprop twin engine throttle quadrant with detents for the beta range, I wanted to make sure that others have been able to get these TQs to work properly in P3D v3.1 using fsuipc in Windows 7. PFC sales isn’t terribly helpful, and they stress that they do not support P3D and profess a buyer beware attitude. I suspect that their USB TQs will work just fine with P3D but they don’t want to be bothered with supporting the required fsuipc configuration. In this regard, there is an October 2014 post in the Avsim forum that indicates that they should work. See http://www.avsim.com/topic/449386-pfc-throttle-quadrant-not-working-in-p3d-v23/. I was hoping that Pete (who I think uses the serial version of PFC hardware but who may have some experience with the USB TQ devices) or some others who actually use the PFC USB TQs might be able to give me some reassurance. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Robert

Peter T, thanks for posting this solution. I'm sure it will be helpful to others who might experience this problem. It parallels somewhat my own experience that I never documented here because I couldn't be sure what I'd done exactly and I also felt it was probably a one off. I gave up on my TQ and arranged for Saitek to send me a new one. I can't remember now whether they sent me a PS2 or a USB replacement, but I believe it was USB. I unplugged my PS2 TQ and plugged in the new one. I never messed with the Device Manager at all. But even with the new TQ I still had the same problem as before. So I planned to return it, removed it, and plugged my old TQ back in. Lo and behold, FSX and fsuipc both suddenly recognized the axis on my original TQ that had been giving me the problem. Thanks, Robert

Pete, it appears that when I copied over my settings from the FSX fsuipc.ini, I didn't notice that the default ini for P3D already had a Buttons section. So I wound up with 2 Buttons sections and fsuipc looked at the first one in the ini and found nothing. Later in the ini is my default FSX Buttons section that wasn't being read. [Buttons] // Default - use for all aircraft 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 ; S 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 ; Shift+S 3=RY,3,C65615,0 ; Elevator Trim Up 4=RY,2,C65607,0 ; Elevator Trim Down 5=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,3,K189,8 ; Zoom Out 6=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,2,K187,8 ; Zoom In 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 ; center Track IR 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 ; toggle Track IR 9=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,5,C66530,0 ; Eyepoint Reset (Control+Space Bar) 10=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,5,C65561,0 ; Pause Toggle (P) 11=CR(+Y,8)Y,18,C65880,0 ; Heading Bug Left (Dec) 12=CR(+Y,8)Y,19,C65879,0 ; Heading Bug Right (Inc) Thanks for pointing this out. I will make the necessary corrections. Robert

Pete, here's the log file for the ini which has the default button commands included in the aircraft specific button section. I may not have messed up my earlier post but here it is anyway just in case I did. ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.923 by Pete Dowson ********* Running inside Prepar3D v2 on Windows 7 Module base=565C0000 User Name="Robert Chartoff" User Addr="macwino@mac.com" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WideFS7 Key is provided 483 System time = 16/12/2013 20:35:04 499 FLT UNC path = "\\FLIGHTSIM2\Users\Robert\Documents\Prepar3D v2 Files\" 499 Trying C:\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\Modules\SimConnectP3D2.dll 499 Found it: trying to connect 515 FS UNC path = "\\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\" 795 LogOptions=40000000 00000001 795 SIM1 Frictions access gained 795 Wind smoothing fix is fully installed 795 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 795 Trying to use SimConnect Prepar3D 8751 Running in "Lockheed MartinÆ Prepar3DÆ v2", Version: 2.0.9448.0 (SimConnect: 2.0.0.0) 8751 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 8751 FSUIPC Menu entry added 8767 \\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\FLIGHTS\OTHER\Prepar3D.FXML 8767 \\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\SimObjects\Airplanes\IRIS Raptor Driver\Raptor.AIR 36535 \\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\SimObjects\Airplanes\Carenado A36 BONANZA P3D\A36.AIR 66331 System time = 16/12/2013 20:36:10, Simulator time = 15:35:36 (23:35Z) 66331 Aircraft="Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary" 67345 Starting everything now ... 68063 KEYDOWN: VK=80, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 68063 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 68281 KEYUP: VK=80, Waiting=0 69249 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=2 69249 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 69732 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 69732 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 69763 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 69763 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 69810 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 69810 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 69841 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 69841 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 69888 KEYDOWN: VK=190, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=2 69888 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 70044 KEYUP: VK=190, Waiting=0 70216 KEYUP: VK=17, Waiting=0 70855 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 94599 Weather Mode now = Custom 94786 Weather Mode now = Theme 94786 Weather Mode now = Custom 116064 KEYDOWN: VK=80, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 116064 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 116205 KEYUP: VK=80, Waiting=0 118217 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 118217 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 118217 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 118217 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 118217 SendKeyToFS(0000007E=[F15], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 118217 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 118217 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 118217 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 118217 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=126 (Scan code 102), Ctr=1 118326 SendKeyToFS(0000007E=[F15], KEYUP) ctr=0 118326 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=126 (Scan code 102), Ctr=1 118420 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 118420 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 118420 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 118420 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 118420 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 118420 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 118420 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 119637 KEYDOWN: VK=76, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 119637 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 119777 KEYUP: VK=76, Waiting=0 123537 KEYDOWN: VK=13, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=4 123537 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 123740 KEYUP: VK=13, Waiting=0 127328 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 127328 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 127328 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 127328 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 127328 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 127328 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 127328 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 127328 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 127328 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 127453 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 127453 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 127515 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 127515 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 127515 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 127515 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 127515 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 127515 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 127515 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 132367 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 132367 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 132367 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 132367 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 132367 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 132367 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 132367 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 132367 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 132367 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 132476 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 132476 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 132601 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 132601 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 132601 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 132601 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 132601 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 132601 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 132601 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 139714 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 139714 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 139714 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 139714 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 139714 SendKeyToFS(0000007E=[F15], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 139714 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 139714 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 139714 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 139714 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=126 (Scan code 102), Ctr=1 139855 SendKeyToFS(0000007E=[F15], KEYUP) ctr=0 139855 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 139855 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 139855 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 139855 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 139855 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 139855 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 139855 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 139855 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=126 (Scan code 102), Ctr=1 145034 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Pressed 145034 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 145034 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 145034 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 145034 SendKeyToFS(00000053=[S], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 145034 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 145034 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 145034 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 145034 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=1 145174 SendKeyToFS(00000053=[S], KEYUP) ctr=0 145174 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=1 145299 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Released 145299 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 145299 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 145299 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 145299 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 145299 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 145299 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 147655 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 147655 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 147655 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 147655 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 147655 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 147655 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 147655 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 147655 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 147655 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 147795 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 147795 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 147795 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 147795 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 147795 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 147795 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 147795 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 147795 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 147811 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 149948 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Pressed 149948 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 149948 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 149948 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 149948 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 149948 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 149948 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 149948 SendKeyToFS(00040053=[shft+S], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 149948 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=16 (Shift) (Scan code 42), Ctr=2 149979 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=1 150057 SendKeyToFS(00040053=[shft+S], KEYUP) ctr=0 150057 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=2 150088 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=16 (Shift) (Scan code 42), Ctr=1 150166 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Released 150166 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 150166 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 150166 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 150166 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 150166 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 150166 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 155190 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 155190 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 155190 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 155190 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 155190 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 155190 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 155190 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 155190 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 155205 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 155314 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 155314 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 155439 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 155439 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 155439 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 155439 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 155439 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 155439 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 155439 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 184877 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 184877 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 184877 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 184877 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 184877 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 184877 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 184877 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 184877 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 184877 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 185017 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 185017 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 185017 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 185017 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 185017 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 185017 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 185017 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 185017 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 185017 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 185298 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Pressed 185298 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 185298 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 185298 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 185298 SendKeyToFS(00000053=[S], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 185298 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 185298 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 185298 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 185298 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=1 185376 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Released 185376 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 185376 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 185376 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 185376 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 185376 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 185376 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 185438 SendKeyToFS(00000053=[S], KEYUP) ctr=0 185438 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=1 200492 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Pressed 200492 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 200492 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 200492 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 200492 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 200492 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 200492 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 200492 SendKeyToFS(00040053=[shft+S], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 200492 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=16 (Shift) (Scan code 42), Ctr=2 200508 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=1 200633 SendKeyToFS(00040053=[shft+S], KEYUP) ctr=0 200633 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Released 200633 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 200633 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 200633 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 200633 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 200633 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 200633 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 200633 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=2 200648 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=16 (Shift) (Scan code 42), Ctr=1 201413 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 201413 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 201413 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 201413 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 201413 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 201413 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 201413 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 201413 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 201413 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 201537 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 201537 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 201662 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 201662 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 201662 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 201662 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 201662 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 201662 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 201662 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 205110 KEYUP: VK=13, Waiting=0 205219 KEYUP: VK=18, Waiting=0 206155 KEYDOWN: VK=27, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 206155 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 206171 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 140 secs = 21.7 fps 218323 System time = 16/12/2013 20:38:42, Simulator time = 15:37:26 (23:37Z) 218323 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Average frame rate for running time of 140 secs = 21.7 fps Memory managed: 60 Allocs, 60 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed *********** Thanks, Robert

Pete, the second set of attached files above may contain the wrong log file. The log file I attached may have been for the first ini with only the custom button commands. I will attach the proper log file in a few minutes after I setup a flight using the second ini, which is the one with the default button commands included in the aircraft specific button section. Sorry for the confusion. Robert

Pete, here are the files you asked for. I used the default Carenado A36 for these tests since I no longer have the A2A C172 installed for it didn't work very well with P3D v2. The problematic behavior is the same with either plane. Here's my fsuipc.ini file with a Default Button section and an A36 Button section with just a single custom key command since there are no other popups I'm interested in. Only the custom command works. None of the commands in the Default Button section work. [General] UpdatedByVersion=4923 History=9HZK9DQE9YMKZ3FJ85ZKK InitDelayDevicesToo=No UseSystemTime=No UseMidMouseBtn=Yes MouseWheelMove=No MouseWheelTrim=No MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1 JoystickTimeout=20 PollGFTQ6=Yes BlankDisplays=No FixControlAccel=No FixMachSpeedBug=No DeleteVehiclesForAES=Yes AutoScanDevices=Yes VisibilityOptions=No OneCloudLayer=No CloudTurbulence=No CloudIcing=No GenerateCirrus=No SuppressCloudTurbulence=No MaxIce=-4 MinIce=-4 UpperWindGusts=No SuppressWindTurbulence=No SuppressWindVariance=No WindTurbulence=No TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0 TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40 SuppressAllGusts=No MaxSurfaceWind=0 WindLimitLevel=200 WindDiscardLevel=400 WindAjustAltitude=No WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000 SmoothBySimTime=No WindSmoothing=No WindSmoothness=2 WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes PressureSmoothness=0 TemperatureSmoothness=0 DisconnTrimForAP=No ZeroElevForAPAlt=No ThrottleSyncAll=No WhiteMessages=No ShowPMcontrols=No SpoilerIncrement=512 MagicBattery=No RudderSpikeRemoval=No ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No AileronSpikeRemoval=No ReversedElevatorTrim=No ClockSync=No ClockSyncMins=5 ClearWeatherDynamics=No OwnWeatherChanges=No TimeForSelect=4 LoadFlightMenu=No LoadPlanMenu=No PauseAfterCrash=No BrakeReleaseThreshold=75 //BrakeReleaseThreshold=0 // changed to 0 for A2A C172 but then back to 75 when 0 no longer worked SaveDataWithFlights=No ZapSound=firework ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring UseProfiles=No EnableMouseLook=No //AxesWrongRange=No // changed to yes on 3/15/13 for Citation X AxesWrongRange=Yes TCASid=Flight TCASrange=40 AxisCalibration=No DirectAxesToCalibs=No ShowMultilineWindow=Yes SuppressSingleline=No SuppressMultilineFS=No AxisIntercepts=No DontResetAxes=No InitDelay=0 GetNearestAirports=No OOMcheck=Yes WeatherReadFactor=2 WeatherRewriteSeconds=1 CustomWeatherModify=No SimConnectStallTime=1 InitialStallTime=10 NormalStallTime=1 LuaRerunDelay=66 Console=No LogButtonsKeys=Yes FSVersionUsed="Lockheed MartinÆ Prepar3DÆ v2",2.0.9448.0 SimConnectUsed=2.0.0.0 [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=No 0=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals 0.GUID={66D3E1A0-8C5B-11E1-8001-444553540000} P=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals P.GUID={66D3E1A0-8C5B-11E1-8001-444553540000} 1=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke 1.GUID={66D3E1A0-8C5B-11E1-8002-444553540000} Y=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke Y.GUID={66D3E1A0-8C5B-11E1-8002-444553540000} 2=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant 2.GUID={66D408B0-8C5B-11E1-8003-444553540000} Q=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant Q.GUID={66D408B0-8C5B-11E1-8003-444553540000} 3=MotioninJoy Virtual Game Controller 3.GUID={B602D7B0-4FA3-11E3-8003-444553540000} G=MotioninJoy Virtual Game Controller G.GUID={B602D7B0-4FA3-11E3-8003-444553540000} 4=Pro Flight Cessna Trim Wheel 4.GUID={26F71C20-9014-11E1-8001-444553540000} T=Pro Flight Cessna Trim Wheel T.GUID={26F71C20-9014-11E1-8001-444553540000} [Buttons] ButtonRepeat=20,10 [AutoSave] Next=1 Interval=60 Files=10 SaveOnGround=No AutoSaveEnabled=No [GPSout] GPSoutEnabled=No [GPSout2] GPSoutEnabled=No [WideServer] WideFSenabled=Yes AdvertiseService=1 Port=8002 Port2=9002 [Sounds] Path=C:\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\Sound\ Device1=Primary Sound Driver Device2=Speakers (Sennheiser 3D G4ME1) Device3=SPDIF-Out (Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro) Device4=Realtek Digital Output(Optical) (Realtek High Definition Audio) Device5=Speaker (Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro) Device6=Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio) [Buttons] // Default - use for all aircraft 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 ; S 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 ; Shift+S 3=RY,3,C65615,0 ; Elevator Trim Up 4=RY,2,C65607,0 ; Elevator Trim Down 5=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,3,K189,8 ; Zoom Out 6=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,2,K187,8 ; Zoom In 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 ; center Track IR 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 ; toggle Track IR 9=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,5,C66530,0 ; Eyepoint Reset (Control+Space Bar) 10=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,5,C65561,0 ; Pause Toggle (P) 11=CR(+Y,8)Y,18,C65880,0 ; Heading Bug Left (Dec) 12=CR(+Y,8)Y,19,C65879,0 ; Heading Bug Right (Inc) [Axes] // Default for single engine aircraft or multi-engine controlled by 1 axis 0=PX,256,D,7,0,0,0 1=PY,256,D,8,0,0,0 2=PR,256,D,3,0,0,0 3=YX,256,D,1,0,0,0 4=YY,256,D,2,0,0,0 5=YZ,256,D,4,0,0,0 6=YU,256,D,5,0,0,0 7=YV,256,D,6,0,0,0 //8=YP,0,F,66416,0,0,0 8=QX,256,D,23,0,0,0 9=QY,256,D,21,0,0,0 10=QZ,256 11=QZ,U,6400,16383,66079,0 12=QZ,D,-16253,-7672,66080,0 13=TX,256,D,21,0,0,0 RangeRepeatRate=10 [JoystickCalibration] // Default for single engine aircraft or multi-engine controlled by 1 axis ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380 Elevator=-16384,-512,512,16383 Rudder=-15213,-512,512,16256 Throttle=-16380,16380 PropPitch=-13133,16256 Mixture=-14563,16383 Flaps=-16383,16383/16 ElevatorTrim=-16380,-512,512,16256 LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16 RightBrake=-16384,16383/16 AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No SlopeAileron=5 SlopeElevator=5 SlopeRudder=5 [Buttons.Carenado A36] 13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K49,9 ; Carenado GPS (Shift+1) //14=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,6,K50,9 ; (Shift+2) //15=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,6,K51,9 ; (Shift+3) //16=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,7,K52,9 ; (Shift+4) [Buttons.C337 Skymaster] 13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K49,9 ; Carenado GPS (Shift+1) //14=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,6,K50,9 ; (Shift+2) //15=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,6,K51,9 ; (Shift+3) //16=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,7,K52,9 ; (Shift+4) 17=CP(+Y,8)Y,15,C65758,0 ; Flaps Down 18=CP(+Y,8)Y,14,C65759,0 ; Flaps Up 19=CP(+Y,8)Y,17,C66080,0 ; Gear Down 20=CP(+Y,8)Y,16,C66079,0 ; Gear Up [Axes.C337 Skymaster] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=PX,256,D,7,0,0,0 1=PY,256,D,8,0,0,0 2=PR,256,D,3,0,0,0 3=YX,256,D,1,0,0,0 4=YY,256,D,2,0,0,0 5=YZ,256,D,9,0,0,0 6=YU,256,D,10,0,0,0 7=YV,256,D,17,0,0,0 //8=YP,0,F,66416,0,0,0 8=QX,256,D,18,0,0,0 9=QY,256,D,13,0,0,0 10=QZ,256,D,14,0,0,0 [JoystickCalibration.C337 Skymaster] SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380/8 Elevator=-16384,-512,512,16383/8 Rudder=-15213,-512,512,16256/8 LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16 RightBrake=-16384,16383/16 Throttle1=-14190,-14190,-14190,16383/40 Throttle2=-14190,-14190,-14190,16383/40 PropPitch1=-16384,-14563,-11182,16383 PropPitch2=-16384,-14823,-11182,16383 Mixture1=-16384,-14693,-10142,16383 Mixture2=-16384,-15473,-12483,16256 ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SlopeAileron=5 SlopeElevator=5 SlopeRudder=5 AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No [Buttons.Aerosoft DHC-6] // Aerosoft Twin Otter X Extended //13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K53,9 ; RXP GNS WAAS(Shift+5) 14=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,6,K50,9 ; Checklist (Shift+2) 15=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,6,K51,9 ; Panel Selector (Shift+3) 16=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,7,K52,9 ; Stock GPS (Shift+4) 17=CP(+Y,8)Y,15,C65758,0 ; Flaps Down 18=CP(+Y,8)Y,14,C65759,0 ; Flaps Up [Axes.Aerosoft DHC-6] // Aerosoft Twin Otter X Extended RangeRepeatRate=10 0=PX,256,D,7,0,0,0 1=PY,256,D,8,0,0,0 2=PR,256,D,3,0,0,0 3=YX,256,D,1,0,0,0 4=YY,256,D,2,0,0,0 5=YZ,256,D,9,0,0,0 6=YU,256,D,10,0,0,0 7=YV,256,D,17,0,0,0 //8=YP,0,F,66416,0,0,0 8=QX,256,D,18,0,0,0 9=QY,256,D,13,0,0,0 10=QZ,256,D,14,0,0,0 [JoystickCalibration.Aerosoft DHC-6] // Aerosoft Twin Otter X Extended ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16380,0,512,16380 Elevator=-16384,0,512,16383 Rudder=-16319,-512,512,16383 LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16 RightBrake=-16384,16383/16 Throttle1=-16384,-2000,2000,16383/24 Throttle2=-16384,-2000,2000,16383/24 Mixture1=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/56 Mixture2=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/56 PropPitch1=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/56 PropPitch2=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/56 SlopeAileron=5 SlopeElevator=5 SlopeRudder=5 AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No [Buttons.Lockheed L049] // P3D Default Connie 13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K50,9 ; Radio Panel (Shift+2) 14=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,6,K51,9 ; Auto Pilot (Shift+3) 15=RY,20,C65602,0 ; Throttle Decrease - Reversers On 16=UY,20,C65604,0 ; Throttle Cut - Reversers Off and Idle 17=CP(+Y,8)Q,0,C66243,0 ; Cowl Flaps Open 18=CP(+Y,8)Q,1,C66244,0 ; Cowl Flaps Close [Buttons.Lockheed C69] // P3D Default Connie 13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K50,9 ; Radio Panel (Shift+2) 14=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,6,K51,9 ; Auto Pilot (Shift+3) 15=RY,20,C65602,0 ; Throttle Decrease - Reversers On 16=UY,20,C65604,0 ; Throttle Cut - Reversers Off and Idle 17=CP(+Y,8)Q,0,C66243,0 ; Cowl Flaps Open 18=CP(+Y,8)Q,1,C66244,0 ; Cowl Flaps Close [ClientNames] 1=FLIGHTSIM [Monitor] Monitor0=0,024C,4,0 Now, here's the log file for a brief flight using this ini so you can see what's happening: ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.923 by Pete Dowson ********* Running inside Prepar3D v2 on Windows 7 Module base=547E0000 User Name="Robert Chartoff" User Addr="macwino@mac.com" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WideFS7 Key is provided 983 System time = 16/12/2013 20:04:22 998 FLT UNC path = "\\FLIGHTSIM2\Users\Robert\Documents\Prepar3D v2 Files\" 998 Trying C:\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\Modules\SimConnectP3D2.dll 998 Found it: trying to connect 998 FS UNC path = "\\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\" 1263 LogOptions=40000000 00000001 1263 SIM1 Frictions access gained 1279 Wind smoothing fix is fully installed 1279 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 1279 Trying to use SimConnect Prepar3D 1279 Running in "Lockheed MartinÆ Prepar3DÆ v2", Version: 2.0.9448.0 (SimConnect: 2.0.0.0) 1279 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 1279 FSUIPC Menu entry added 1295 \\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\FLIGHTS\OTHER\Prepar3D.FXML 1295 \\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\SimObjects\Airplanes\IRIS Raptor Driver\Raptor.AIR 29437 \\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\SimObjects\Airplanes\Carenado A36 BONANZA P3D\A36.AIR 58890 System time = 16/12/2013 20:05:20, Simulator time = 15:04:45 (23:04Z) 58906 Aircraft="Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary" 61215 KEYDOWN: VK=80, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 61215 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 61355 KEYUP: VK=80, Waiting=0 62260 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=2 62260 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 62759 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 62759 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 62790 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 62790 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 62821 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 62821 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 62853 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 62853 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 62899 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 62899 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 62931 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 62931 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 62962 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 62962 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 62993 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 62993 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 63024 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 63024 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 63055 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 63055 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 63102 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 63102 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 63133 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 63133 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 63165 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 63165 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 63196 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 63196 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 63227 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 63227 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 63258 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 63258 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 63289 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 63289 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 63336 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=Y, Shifts=2 63336 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 63367 KEYDOWN: VK=190, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=2 63367 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 63492 KEYUP: VK=190, Waiting=0 63695 KEYUP: VK=17, Waiting=0 63804 Starting everything now ... 67314 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 82509 KEYDOWN: VK=80, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 82509 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 82618 KEYUP: VK=80, Waiting=0 84271 KEYDOWN: VK=80, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 84271 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 84396 KEYUP: VK=80, Waiting=0 90246 Weather Mode now = Custom 90434 Weather Mode now = Theme 90434 Weather Mode now = Custom 92976 KEYDOWN: VK=80, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 92976 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 93070 KEYUP: VK=80, Waiting=0 97001 KEYDOWN: VK=76, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 97001 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 97173 KEYUP: VK=76, Waiting=0 135783 KEYDOWN: VK=190, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 135783 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 135877 KEYUP: VK=190, Waiting=0 171211 KEYDOWN: VK=83, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 171211 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 171398 KEYUP: VK=83, Waiting=0 185875 KEYDOWN: VK=16, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=1 185875 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 186187 KEYDOWN: VK=83, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=1 186187 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 186343 KEYUP: VK=83, Waiting=0 186390 KEYUP: VK=16, Waiting=0 189713 KEYDOWN: VK=27, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 189713 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 189713 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 131 secs = 29.4 fps 200352 KEYDOWN: VK=91, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=32 200352 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 200617 KEYDOWN: VK=13, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=32 200617 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 200711 KEYUP: VK=13, Waiting=0 200789 KEYUP: VK=91, Waiting=0 201381 KEYDOWN: VK=13, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=4 201381 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 201506 KEYUP: VK=13, Waiting=0 201615 KEYUP: VK=18, Waiting=0 224423 System time = 16/12/2013 20:08:05, Simulator time = 15:06:42 (23:06Z) 224423 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Average frame rate for running time of 140 secs = 29.4 fps Memory managed: 58 Allocs, 58 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed *********** FWIW, I will now attach the fsuipc.ini file where I include the default button commands in the aircraft specific button section, which gives me access to the commands. The log file when using this ini is also attached afterwards. [General] UpdatedByVersion=4923 History=9HZK9DQE9YMKZ3FJ85ZKK InitDelayDevicesToo=No UseSystemTime=No UseMidMouseBtn=Yes MouseWheelMove=No MouseWheelTrim=No MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1 JoystickTimeout=20 PollGFTQ6=Yes BlankDisplays=No FixControlAccel=No FixMachSpeedBug=No DeleteVehiclesForAES=Yes AutoScanDevices=Yes VisibilityOptions=No OneCloudLayer=No CloudTurbulence=No CloudIcing=No GenerateCirrus=No SuppressCloudTurbulence=No MaxIce=-4 MinIce=-4 UpperWindGusts=No SuppressWindTurbulence=No SuppressWindVariance=No WindTurbulence=No TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0 TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40 SuppressAllGusts=No MaxSurfaceWind=0 WindLimitLevel=200 WindDiscardLevel=400 WindAjustAltitude=No WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000 SmoothBySimTime=No WindSmoothing=No WindSmoothness=2 WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes PressureSmoothness=0 TemperatureSmoothness=0 DisconnTrimForAP=No ZeroElevForAPAlt=No ThrottleSyncAll=No WhiteMessages=No ShowPMcontrols=No SpoilerIncrement=512 MagicBattery=No RudderSpikeRemoval=No ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No AileronSpikeRemoval=No ReversedElevatorTrim=No ClockSync=No ClockSyncMins=5 ClearWeatherDynamics=No OwnWeatherChanges=No TimeForSelect=4 LoadFlightMenu=No LoadPlanMenu=No PauseAfterCrash=No BrakeReleaseThreshold=75 //BrakeReleaseThreshold=0 // changed to 0 for A2A C172 but then back to 75 when 0 no longer worked SaveDataWithFlights=No ZapSound=firework ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring UseProfiles=No EnableMouseLook=No //AxesWrongRange=No // changed to yes on 3/15/13 for Citation X AxesWrongRange=Yes TCASid=Flight TCASrange=40 AxisCalibration=No DirectAxesToCalibs=No ShowMultilineWindow=Yes SuppressSingleline=No SuppressMultilineFS=No AxisIntercepts=No DontResetAxes=No InitDelay=0 GetNearestAirports=No OOMcheck=Yes WeatherReadFactor=2 WeatherRewriteSeconds=1 CustomWeatherModify=No SimConnectStallTime=1 InitialStallTime=10 NormalStallTime=1 LuaRerunDelay=66 Console=No LogButtonsKeys=Yes FSVersionUsed="Lockheed MartinÆ Prepar3DÆ v2",2.0.9448.0 SimConnectUsed=2.0.0.0 [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=No 0=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals 0.GUID={66D3E1A0-8C5B-11E1-8001-444553540000} P=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals P.GUID={66D3E1A0-8C5B-11E1-8001-444553540000} 1=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke 1.GUID={66D3E1A0-8C5B-11E1-8002-444553540000} Y=Saitek Pro Flight Yoke Y.GUID={66D3E1A0-8C5B-11E1-8002-444553540000} 2=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant 2.GUID={66D408B0-8C5B-11E1-8003-444553540000} Q=Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant Q.GUID={66D408B0-8C5B-11E1-8003-444553540000} 3=MotioninJoy Virtual Game Controller 3.GUID={B602D7B0-4FA3-11E3-8003-444553540000} G=MotioninJoy Virtual Game Controller G.GUID={B602D7B0-4FA3-11E3-8003-444553540000} 4=Pro Flight Cessna Trim Wheel 4.GUID={26F71C20-9014-11E1-8001-444553540000} T=Pro Flight Cessna Trim Wheel T.GUID={26F71C20-9014-11E1-8001-444553540000} [Buttons] ButtonRepeat=20,10 [AutoSave] Next=1 Interval=60 Files=10 SaveOnGround=No AutoSaveEnabled=No [GPSout] GPSoutEnabled=No [GPSout2] GPSoutEnabled=No [WideServer] WideFSenabled=Yes AdvertiseService=1 Port=8002 Port2=9002 [Sounds] Path=C:\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\Sound\ Device1=Primary Sound Driver Device2=Speakers (Sennheiser 3D G4ME1) Device3=SPDIF-Out (Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro) Device4=Realtek Digital Output(Optical) (Realtek High Definition Audio) Device5=Speaker (Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro) Device6=Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio) [Buttons] // Default - use for all aircraft 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 ; S 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 ; Shift+S 3=RY,3,C65615,0 ; Elevator Trim Up 4=RY,2,C65607,0 ; Elevator Trim Down 5=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,3,K189,8 ; Zoom Out 6=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,2,K187,8 ; Zoom In 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 ; center Track IR 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 ; toggle Track IR 9=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,5,C66530,0 ; Eyepoint Reset (Control+Space Bar) 10=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,5,C65561,0 ; Pause Toggle (P) 11=CR(+Y,8)Y,18,C65880,0 ; Heading Bug Left (Dec) 12=CR(+Y,8)Y,19,C65879,0 ; Heading Bug Right (Inc) [Axes] // Default for single engine aircraft or multi-engine controlled by 1 axis 0=PX,256,D,7,0,0,0 1=PY,256,D,8,0,0,0 2=PR,256,D,3,0,0,0 3=YX,256,D,1,0,0,0 4=YY,256,D,2,0,0,0 5=YZ,256,D,4,0,0,0 6=YU,256,D,5,0,0,0 7=YV,256,D,6,0,0,0 //8=YP,0,F,66416,0,0,0 8=QX,256,D,23,0,0,0 9=QY,256,D,21,0,0,0 10=QZ,256 11=QZ,U,6400,16383,66079,0 12=QZ,D,-16253,-7672,66080,0 13=TX,256,D,21,0,0,0 RangeRepeatRate=10 [JoystickCalibration] // Default for single engine aircraft or multi-engine controlled by 1 axis ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380 Elevator=-16384,-512,512,16383 Rudder=-15213,-512,512,16256 Throttle=-16380,16380 PropPitch=-13133,16256 Mixture=-14563,16383 Flaps=-16383,16383/16 ElevatorTrim=-16380,-512,512,16256 LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16 RightBrake=-16384,16383/16 AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No SlopeAileron=5 SlopeElevator=5 SlopeRudder=5 [Buttons.Carenado A36] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 ; S 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 ; Shift+S 3=RY,3,C65615,0 ; Elevator Trim Up 4=RY,2,C65607,0 ; Elevator Trim Down 5=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,3,K189,8 ; Zoom Out 6=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,2,K187,8 ; Zoom In 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 ; center Track IR 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 ; toggle Track IR 9=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,5,C66530,0 ; Eyepoint Reset (Control+Space Bar) 10=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,5,C65561,0 ; Pause Toggle (P) 11=CR(+Y,8)Y,18,C65880,0 ; Heading Bug Left (Dec) 12=CR(+Y,8)Y,19,C65879,0 ; Heading Bug Right (Inc) 13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K49,9 ; Carenado GPS (Shift+1) //14=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,6,K50,9 ; (Shift+2) //15=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,6,K51,9 ; (Shift+3) //16=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,7,K52,9 ; (Shift+4) [Buttons.C337 Skymaster] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 ; S 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 ; Shift+S 3=RY,3,C65615,0 ; Elevator Trim Up 4=RY,2,C65607,0 ; Elevator Trim Down 5=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,3,K189,8 ; Zoom Out 6=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,2,K187,8 ; Zoom In 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 ; center Track IR 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 ; toggle Track IR 9=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,5,C66530,0 ; Eyepoint Reset (Control+Space Bar) 10=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,5,C65561,0 ; Pause Toggle (P) 11=CR(+Y,8)Y,18,C65880,0 ; Heading Bug Left (Dec) 12=CR(+Y,8)Y,19,C65879,0 ; Heading Bug Right (Inc) 13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K49,9 ; Carenado GPS (Shift+1) //14=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,6,K50,9 ; (Shift+2) //15=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,6,K51,9 ; (Shift+3) //16=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,7,K52,9 ; (Shift+4) 17=CP(+Y,8)Y,15,C65758,0 ; Flaps Down 18=CP(+Y,8)Y,14,C65759,0 ; Flaps Up 19=CP(+Y,8)Y,17,C66080,0 ; Gear Down 20=CP(+Y,8)Y,16,C66079,0 ; Gear Up [Axes.C337 Skymaster] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=PX,256,D,7,0,0,0 1=PY,256,D,8,0,0,0 2=PR,256,D,3,0,0,0 3=YX,256,D,1,0,0,0 4=YY,256,D,2,0,0,0 5=YZ,256,D,9,0,0,0 6=YU,256,D,10,0,0,0 7=YV,256,D,17,0,0,0 //8=YP,0,F,66416,0,0,0 8=QX,256,D,18,0,0,0 9=QY,256,D,13,0,0,0 10=QZ,256,D,14,0,0,0 [JoystickCalibration.C337 Skymaster] SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380/8 Elevator=-16384,-512,512,16383/8 Rudder=-15213,-512,512,16256/8 LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16 RightBrake=-16384,16383/16 Throttle1=-14190,-14190,-14190,16383/40 Throttle2=-14190,-14190,-14190,16383/40 PropPitch1=-16384,-14563,-11182,16383 PropPitch2=-16384,-14823,-11182,16383 Mixture1=-16384,-14693,-10142,16383 Mixture2=-16384,-15473,-12483,16256 ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SlopeAileron=5 SlopeElevator=5 SlopeRudder=5 AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No [Buttons.Aerosoft DHC-6] // Aerosoft Twin Otter X Extended 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 ; S 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 ; Shift+S 3=RY,3,C65615,0 ; Elevator Trim Up 4=RY,2,C65607,0 ; Elevator Trim Down 5=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,3,K189,8 ; Zoom Out 6=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,2,K187,8 ; Zoom In 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 ; center Track IR 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 ; toggle Track IR 9=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,5,C66530,0 ; Eyepoint Reset (Control+Space Bar) 10=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,5,C65561,0 ; Pause Toggle (P) 11=CR(+Y,8)Y,18,C65880,0 ; Heading Bug Left (Dec) 12=CR(+Y,8)Y,19,C65879,0 ; Heading Bug Right (Inc) //13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K53,9 ; RXP GNS WAAS(Shift+5) 14=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,6,K50,9 ; Checklist (Shift+2) 15=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,6,K51,9 ; Panel Selector (Shift+3) 16=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,7,K52,9 ; Stock GPS (Shift+4) 17=CP(+Y,8)Y,15,C65758,0 ; Flaps Down 18=CP(+Y,8)Y,14,C65759,0 ; Flaps Up [Axes.Aerosoft DHC-6] // Aerosoft Twin Otter X Extended RangeRepeatRate=10 0=PX,256,D,7,0,0,0 1=PY,256,D,8,0,0,0 2=PR,256,D,3,0,0,0 3=YX,256,D,1,0,0,0 4=YY,256,D,2,0,0,0 5=YZ,256,D,9,0,0,0 6=YU,256,D,10,0,0,0 7=YV,256,D,17,0,0,0 //8=YP,0,F,66416,0,0,0 8=QX,256,D,18,0,0,0 9=QY,256,D,13,0,0,0 10=QZ,256,D,14,0,0,0 [JoystickCalibration.Aerosoft DHC-6] // Aerosoft Twin Otter X Extended ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 Aileron=-16380,0,512,16380 Elevator=-16384,0,512,16383 Rudder=-16319,-512,512,16383 LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16 RightBrake=-16384,16383/16 Throttle1=-16384,-2000,2000,16383/24 Throttle2=-16384,-2000,2000,16383/24 Mixture1=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/56 Mixture2=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/56 PropPitch1=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/56 PropPitch2=-16384,-16384,-16384,16383/56 SlopeAileron=5 SlopeElevator=5 SlopeRudder=5 AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No [Buttons.Lockheed L049] // P3D Default Connie 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 ; S 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 ; Shift+S 3=RY,3,C65615,0 ; Elevator Trim Up 4=RY,2,C65607,0 ; Elevator Trim Down 5=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,3,K189,8 ; Zoom Out 6=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,2,K187,8 ; Zoom In 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 ; center Track IR 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 ; toggle Track IR 9=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,5,C66530,0 ; Eyepoint Reset (Control+Space Bar) 10=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,5,C65561,0 ; Pause Toggle (P) 11=CR(+Y,8)Y,18,C65880,0 ; Heading Bug Left (Dec) 12=CR(+Y,8)Y,19,C65879,0 ; Heading Bug Right (Inc) 13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K50,9 ; Radio Panel (Shift+2) 14=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,6,K51,9 ; Auto Pilot (Shift+3) 15=RY,20,C65602,0 ; Throttle Decrease - Reversers On 16=UY,20,C65604,0 ; Throttle Cut - Reversers Off and Idle 17=CP(+Y,8)Q,0,C66243,0 ; Cowl Flaps Open 18=CP(+Y,8)Q,1,C66244,0 ; Cowl Flaps Close [Buttons.Lockheed C69] // P3D Default Connie 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 ; S 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 ; Shift+S 3=RY,3,C65615,0 ; Elevator Trim Up 4=RY,2,C65607,0 ; Elevator Trim Down 5=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,3,K189,8 ; Zoom Out 6=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,2,K187,8 ; Zoom In 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 ; center Track IR 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 ; toggle Track IR 9=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,5,C66530,0 ; Eyepoint Reset (Control+Space Bar) 10=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,5,C65561,0 ; Pause Toggle (P) 11=CR(+Y,8)Y,18,C65880,0 ; Heading Bug Left (Dec) 12=CR(+Y,8)Y,19,C65879,0 ; Heading Bug Right (Inc) 13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K50,9 ; Radio Panel (Shift+2) 14=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,6,K51,9 ; Auto Pilot (Shift+3) 15=RY,20,C65602,0 ; Throttle Decrease - Reversers On 16=UY,20,C65604,0 ; Throttle Cut - Reversers Off and Idle 17=CP(+Y,8)Q,0,C66243,0 ; Cowl Flaps Open 18=CP(+Y,8)Q,1,C66244,0 ; Cowl Flaps Close [ClientNames] 1=FLIGHTSIM [Monitor] Monitor0=0,024C,4,0 And here's the log file for this ini: ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.923 by Pete Dowson ********* Running inside Prepar3D v2 on Windows 7 Module base=54770000 User Name="Robert Chartoff" User Addr="macwino@mac.com" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WideFS7 Key is provided 765 System time = 16/12/2013 19:55:04 765 FLT UNC path = "\\FLIGHTSIM2\Users\Robert\Documents\Prepar3D v2 Files\" 765 Trying C:\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\Modules\SimConnectP3D2.dll 765 Found it: trying to connect 780 FS UNC path = "\\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\" 1046 LogOptions=40000000 00000001 1046 SIM1 Frictions access gained 1046 Wind smoothing fix is fully installed 1046 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 1046 Trying to use SimConnect Prepar3D 1046 Running in "Lockheed MartinÆ Prepar3DÆ v2", Version: 2.0.9448.0 (SimConnect: 2.0.0.0) 1046 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 1046 FSUIPC Menu entry added 1077 \\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\FLIGHTS\OTHER\Prepar3D.FXML 1077 \\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\SimObjects\Airplanes\IRIS Raptor Driver\Raptor.AIR 29703 \\FLIGHTSIM2\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\SimObjects\Airplanes\Carenado A36 BONANZA P3D\A36.AIR 233347 System time = 16/12/2013 19:58:56, Simulator time = 15:55:27 (23:55Z) 233347 Aircraft="Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary" 234267 Starting everything now ... 234953 KEYDOWN: VK=80, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 234953 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 235359 KEYUP: VK=80, Waiting=0 237512 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=2 237512 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 237777 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 237871 KEYDOWN: VK=188, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=2 237871 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 237980 KEYUP: VK=188, Waiting=0 238183 KEYUP: VK=17, Waiting=0 240928 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=2 240928 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 241209 KEYDOWN: VK=188, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=2 241209 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 241303 KEYUP: VK=188, Waiting=0 241365 KEYUP: VK=17, Waiting=0 246841 KEYDOWN: VK=17, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=2 246841 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 247246 KEYDOWN: VK=190, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=2 247246 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 247356 KEYUP: VK=190, Waiting=0 247683 KEYUP: VK=17, Waiting=0 301067 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 301067 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 301067 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 301067 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 301067 SendKeyToFS(0000007E=[F15], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 301067 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 301067 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 301067 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 301067 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=126 (Scan code 102), Ctr=1 301176 SendKeyToFS(0000007E=[F15], KEYUP) ctr=0 301176 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=126 (Scan code 102), Ctr=1 301269 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 301269 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 301269 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 301269 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 301269 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 301269 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 301269 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 303173 Weather Mode now = Custom 303360 Weather Mode now = Theme 303360 Weather Mode now = Custom 307494 KEYDOWN: VK=80, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 307494 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 307634 KEYUP: VK=80, Waiting=0 309350 KEYDOWN: VK=80, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 309350 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 309522 KEYUP: VK=80, Waiting=0 316214 KEYDOWN: VK=76, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 316214 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 316402 KEYUP: VK=76, Waiting=0 325668 KEYDOWN: VK=66, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 325668 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 325933 KEYUP: VK=66, Waiting=0 332688 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=7, Pressed 332688 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K49,9 332688 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 332688 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 332688 SendKeyToFS(00040031=[shft+1], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 332688 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=16 (Shift) (Scan code 42), Ctr=2 332704 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=49 (Scan code 2), Ctr=1 332719 KEYDOWN: VK=16, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=1 332719 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 332719 KEYDOWN: VK=49, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=1 332719 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 332813 SendKeyToFS(00040031=[shft+1], KEYUP) ctr=0 332813 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=49 (Scan code 2), Ctr=2 332828 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=16 (Shift) (Scan code 42), Ctr=1 332828 KEYUP: VK=49, Waiting=0 332828 KEYUP: VK=16, Waiting=0 332969 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=7, Released 332969 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K49,9 332969 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 332969 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 337571 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=7, Pressed 337571 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K49,9 337571 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 337571 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 337571 SendKeyToFS(00040031=[shft+1], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 337571 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=16 (Shift) (Scan code 42), Ctr=2 337587 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=49 (Scan code 2), Ctr=1 337602 KEYDOWN: VK=16, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=1 337602 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 337602 KEYDOWN: VK=49, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=1 337602 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 337696 SendKeyToFS(00040031=[shft+1], KEYUP) ctr=0 337696 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=49 (Scan code 2), Ctr=2 337696 KEYUP: VK=49, Waiting=0 337711 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=16 (Shift) (Scan code 42), Ctr=1 337743 KEYUP: VK=16, Waiting=0 337805 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=7, Released 337805 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K49,9 337805 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 337805 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 341237 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=7, Pressed 341237 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K49,9 341237 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 341237 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 341471 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=7, Released 341471 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 13=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,7,K49,9 341471 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 341471 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 345402 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 345402 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 345402 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 345402 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 345402 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 345402 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 345402 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 345402 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 345402 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 345527 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 345543 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 345574 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 345574 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 345574 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 345574 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 345574 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 345574 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 345574 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 346681 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 346681 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 346681 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 346681 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 346681 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 346681 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 346681 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 346681 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 346681 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 346806 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 346806 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 346806 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 346806 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 346806 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 346806 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 346806 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 346806 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 346806 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 356447 KEYDOWN: VK=190, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 356447 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 356681 KEYUP: VK=190, Waiting=0 366852 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 366852 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 366852 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 366852 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 366852 SendKeyToFS(0000007E=[F15], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 366852 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 366852 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 366852 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 366852 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=126 (Scan code 102), Ctr=1 366962 SendKeyToFS(0000007E=[F15], KEYUP) ctr=0 366962 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=126 (Scan code 102), Ctr=1 367055 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 367055 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 367055 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 367055 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 367055 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 367055 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 367055 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 416897 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 416897 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 416897 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 416897 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 416897 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 416897 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 416897 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 416897 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 416897 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 417022 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 417022 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 417100 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 417100 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 417100 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 417100 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 417100 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 417100 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 417100 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 417568 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Pressed 417568 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 417568 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 417568 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 417568 SendKeyToFS(00000053=[S], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 417568 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 417568 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 417568 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 417568 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=1 417599 KEYDOWN: VK=83, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 417599 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 417677 SendKeyToFS(00000053=[S], KEYUP) ctr=0 417677 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=1 417709 KEYUP: VK=83, Waiting=0 417833 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Released 417833 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 417833 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 417833 .... Condition (-Y,0) = TRUE 417833 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 417833 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 417833 .... Condition (+Y,0) = FALSE 432966 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Pressed 432966 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 432966 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 432966 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 432966 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 432966 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 432966 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 432966 SendKeyToFS(00040053=[shft+S], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 432966 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=16 (Shift) (Scan code 42), Ctr=2 432981 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=1 432997 KEYDOWN: VK=16, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=1 432997 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 432997 KEYDOWN: VK=83, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=1 432997 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 433075 SendKeyToFS(00040053=[shft+S], KEYUP) ctr=0 433075 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=83 (Scan code 31), Ctr=2 433090 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=16 (Shift) (Scan code 42), Ctr=1 433106 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=1, Released 433106 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 1=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,1,K83,8 433106 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 433106 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 433106 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 2=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,1,K83,9 433106 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 433106 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 433106 KEYUP: VK=83, Waiting=0 433106 KEYUP: VK=16, Waiting=0 434385 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Pressed 434385 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 434385 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 434385 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 434385 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 434385 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 434385 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 434385 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYDOWN) ctr=0 434385 Sending WM_KEYDOWN, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 434494 SendKeyToFS(0000007D=[F14], KEYUP) ctr=0 434494 Sending WM_KEYUP, Key=125 (Scan code 101), Ctr=1 434526 Button changed: bRef=0, Joy=1 (Y), Btn=4, Released 434526 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 7=CP(+Y,8)(-Y,0)Y,4,K126,8 434526 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 434526 .... Condition (-Y,0) = FALSE 434526 [Buttons.Carenado A36 Bonanza 60th Anniversary] 8=CP(+Y,8)(+Y,0)Y,4,K125,8 434526 .... Condition (+Y,8) = TRUE 434526 .... Condition (+Y,0) = TRUE 447442 KEYDOWN: VK=91, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=32 447442 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 447614 KEYDOWN: VK=13, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=32 447614 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 447723 KEYUP: VK=13, Waiting=0 447723 KEYUP: VK=91, Waiting=0 448971 KEYDOWN: VK=13, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=4 448971 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 449096 KEYUP: VK=13, Waiting=0 449205 KEYUP: VK=18, Waiting=0 454197 KEYDOWN: VK=27, Waiting=0, Repeat=N, Shifts=0 454197 .. Key not programmed -- passed on to FS 454197 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 221 secs = 29.4 fps 471872 System time = 16/12/2013 20:02:55, Simulator time = 15:58:16 (23:58Z) 471872 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Average frame rate for running time of 221 secs = 29.4 fps Memory managed: 88 Allocs, 88 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed *********** I hope I've done this right and it will enable you to see what I'm doing wrong. Thanks, Robert

OK, I've been able to diagnose what I believe is the source of the problem. It has nothing to do with the A2A C172. I I think the problem lies with P3D and how it's interacting with fsuipc. The Button, Axis and Calibration sections were read for the Twin Otter because my ini had full instructions for all commands contained in the relevant sections. However, for single engine planes I use a default set of ini settings for these three sections. Then, for each such plane, I have a separate ini button section that is aircraft specific and that generally handles the yoke keys that control the Shift+n popups, which usually differ from plane to plane. With the A2A C172 it turns out I was able to access all of the aircraft specific ini commands (usually there are just 4 lines of commands) but none of the ini commands contained in the default button ini section. However, if I copied the default button ini commands into the aircraft specific button ini section for the A2A C172, then I had access to the commands. I have found that this is the case for any single engine plane that I install in P3D v2. My default Axis and Calibration ini settings are recognized. My aircraft specific Button ini settings are recognized. But my default Button ini settings are not recognized. One other thing of note, I do not have the aircraft specific ini button commands override those in the default set of button ini commands. The aircraft specific button commands are for unique buttons on my yoke that are not assigned in the default button ini section. So what I have is the default Axis and Calibration settings being recognized but not the default Button settings. Any thoughts? I can obviously live with just expanding the aircraft specific button section in the ini to contain all the settings found in the default button ini section, which is what I am now doing. But this is not how it worked in FSX. Robert

I think this is more a P3D or A2A C172 problem than an fsuipc problem, but I thought I would post just in case anyone has some thoughts on what the problem might be. I am running the very latest fsuipc designed for P3D v2. I got the A2A C172 into P3D using the Estonian Migration Tool. The plane responds to my axes assignments and their calibration. However, it does not recognize any of my yoke and TQ button commands. I have controllers disabled in P3D. I am old school and use customized fsuipc.ini entries for each plane, not profiles. I just copied over my A2A C172 button, axes, and calibration settings from FSX to P3D for this plane. The ini section headings for the plane all use the same title for the plane and match up with the Title in the aircraft.cfg. For some reason, however, my yoke and TQ see the fsuipc axes assignments but do not see the fsuipc button assignments. I have brought into P3D one other plane from FSX - the Aerosoft Twin Otter -and it has not experienced this problem. All the button and axes assignments are recognized by the plane. Thanks, Robert

Pete, with your encouragement, I will pursue this with Saitek support again. I will keep you posted. Thanks again for your support. Robert

Pete, Saitek support is unable to help me. They say that if the lever checks out in the Windows calibration pane, then it's functioning properly. They have no idea why it's not being properly recognized in FSX or fsuipc. So that's been a dead end for me. At the moment, I'm resigned to living without this lever. It's not worth it to me to spend a week reinstalling Windows, FSX and all my addons in the hope that this might resolve the problem. I'll just wait until I build a new machine to do all that. And it doesn't appear that getting a new TQ will help given that my present one is found faultless by Saitek. In any event, at least since April of last year all Saitek TQs have been - to my mind - defective because they lack firm detents at the bottom of the lever path. Compared to earlier production runs, you hardly know the detents are there. Saitek is aware of this problem and has told me that it will be corrected in the future when their present inventory is exhausted. Robert

I've explored all the suggestions mentioned so far in this thread, and none leads to an explanation of, or solution to, this vexing problem. Thanks for all your input. Robert

Before posting, I did search the Saitek forum and the only possible relevant post I could find dealt with a situation where the TQ didn't calibrate properly in the Windows calibration pane - the one you access through the Control Panel. In my case, the calibration looks just fine in this pane; it is only when you get to FSX or fsuipc that a problem arises with the left lever. I will contact Saitek support again today and see if I can get some more assistance since there seems to be a fix out there. Thanks for the input. Robert FWIW, here is the relevant portion of the post I found: To recalibrate in Windows, first remove the USB plug for your controller from the PC. Press and hold the Windows key on your keyboard and then press the letter R. This will open the Run box. Type regedit and then click ok. The Registry Editor will have a list of folders on the left hand side. Go down into the following folders in order by clicking the + next to the folder name. +HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE (CURRENT_USER if on Vista) +System +CurrentControlSet +Control +Media Properties +Private Properties +Direct Input Delete any folder inside the Direct Input folder that begins VID_06A3. Once deleted, close the editor, then plug the USB back into the original port. Move all the axes of the controller through their full range of movement four times. Now go to Control Panel > Game Controllers > Properties to check the axes on the test screen. If the issue persists then test the controller on another PC to see if the issue is replicated. If it is replicated then it is most likely a fault with the controller which will need to be replaced if it is still within warranty.

I am posting here and in the Avsim hardware forum in the hope that someone might have a solution to this problem. I have a Saitek yoke and attached TQ with 3 levers. The first lever, the one on the left, is no longer being recognized properly by FSX or fsuipc, as I will explain below. First, let me make clear that this axis is recognized in the Windows 7 control panel Devices and Printers. When you go to the Game Controller Settings you see the three axes for the three levers on this TQ. These are labeled Z Axis, X Rotation and Y Rotation. All three vertical graphs show a red bar with full, smooth movement from top to bottom for the three levers. However, the first lever, the one identified as the Z Axis in the Windows control panel, is not properly recognized in FSX or in fsuipc. For example, if I assign the Throttle command to this axis in FSX, and I then go to calibrate it in FSX, the window shows that the X and Y Rotation axes move fully and smoothly through the full range on the horizontal graphic representation. But this Z axis, which I’ve assigned to the Throttle command, is only 50% filled in with color (which may be normal) but jumps from no color to 50% color when you move the lever (which is not normal). There is no graduated movement from one end to the other. Just an immediate jump from no fill color to 50% fill color. Then, when you go to calibrate the Z axis, the horizontal bar in the Windows calibration pane is devoid of any color and does not fill up as it should when you move the lever representing this Z axis through its range of motion. However, if you check the “Display raw data” box it shows movement from 0 to 255. In FSX, this translates into a throttle control that goes from idle to full throttle with the slightest upward movement of the lever. Also, if you pull the lever from full throttle all the way back, you cannot get back to idle but instead get to about 20% throttle. For what it’s worth, you can control the throttle with the F1-F4 key commands, which work properly. The same result happens if I assign and calibrate this Z Axis lever in fsuipc, which is how I ordinarily assign and calibrate this axis. First, of course, I delete any axis throttle assignments in FSX so there will be no conflict and then do the assignment and calibration in fsuipc. The two boxes on the far left of the Throttle section of the Main Flight Controls pane in fsuipc jump from 0 to 16383 when you move the lever. There is no graduated movement. I’ve tried manually setting the fsuipc.ini file to reflect a full range of movement but it makes no difference. In FSX, I get the same behavior that I’ve described above when I do the assignment and calibration within FSX. I’ve spoken with Saitek tech support about this, and they say that as long as the Windows 7 control panel Devices and Printers shows full and gradual movement for this lever there is not a hardware problem and it is software related. I’ve rebuilt the fsx.cfg but this didn’t help. I’ve assigned the Throttle command to the other two levers on the TQ and they work properly. In fact, any command I might assign to this problematic Z Axis doesn’t work as it should. I should add that this lever worked properly before. It is only suddenly that it no longer works. Any input will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Robert

Peter, thanks for the clarification. Refreshing scenery or the aircraft don't seem to solve the problem for me, but sometimes - at least on an approach - reducing AI traffic can make a difference. I've never tried reloading panels and will do so. It's interesting, but you are the cause of my having OOMs, at least in Orbx PNW. Let me explain. Previously, my flights in PNW were of very short duration for I was plagued by g3d.dll errors. You solved that problem. But now that I was able to actually fly in PNW for more than 10 or 15 minutes, I then became subject to these OOMs. So I went from the frying pan into the fire. How about a fix for the OOMs? If anyone is going to do it, it is going to be you. Thanks for all your assistance. Robert

Peter, in this thread you indicate that in order to possibly avoid the OOM when you're aware it is near, you can try "saving the flight and maybe doing something like reloading memory or aircraft, to force a memory defrag." I know how to save a flight and how to reload an aircraft, but I don't know how one goes about "reloading memory." Could you please explain this further? Thanks, Robert