Pete.
cheched ouput with portmon and the output is ok, tried changing the interval as you suggested and I now get the following on the hyperterminal
$GPGGA,171640.00,4725.8904,N,12218.4798,W,1,05,0.0,131.9,M,,,,*2C
$GPGSA,A,3,01,02,03,,,,,,,,,,3.0,3.0,3.0*31
$PGRMZ,432.9,f,2*08
$GPGLL,4725.8904,N,12218.4798,W,171640.00,A*18
Which I guess is some where near right.
It is poss that the cable is incorrect as Ive Had to mak up a plug and socket to get a straight cable to a null modem but I think it is correct and hyperterminal produces the corrrect characters on the opp screen both ways,
but autoroute still does not see a gps connected,
regards
Peter