mr_ramiro

I also had this same issue when arriving at KMCO with the E190, thought it was the gusty wind...seems like extending Flaps to Full reduce the drag. Indeed that day I was using Flaps 5, and couldn’t understand why the plane was gaining speed.

Hi, would you mind uploading it again? The link is down... Did you fix the higher pitch trim required to maintain aircraft pitch during approach? abcs!

I'm using the Payload manager...

Well, I'm following the approach speeds that are on Feelthere's E-Jets V3 Manual. By setting this speed, the aircraft should be with a proper pitch trim, not on its top range of 13 UP. Please, have a look at my first post, on the second picture with Flaps Full, according to the "195 Landing V-Speeds Table - No icing conditions", weight of 42300 kgs aprox, VREF is 123kt, so VAPP is 128. Maybe the Slats and Flaps are not giving the correct amount of lift, and the CG, although is correctly positioned on "Fuel and Payload" menu, I'm quite sure that is fully foward. This explains the sudden pitch down movement when we touch down on the runway; this happens so fast that my counterreaction of trying to ease the nose gear touch (pulling the joystick) raises the aircraft nose again, sometimes making it fly again. During the other flight phases, I don't remember of having flight controlability issues.

Hi there! Feelthere team, please, are you aware of this issue? It has been a month without a statement from Feelthere. I read the fixed topic that you said it may take a while for our requests/doubts/issues to be answered, but a month it's not what we customers, are supposed to expect from a serious add-on development company. In addition, the price we pay for your products requires a good support team that doesn't take too long to answer their costumers complaints. So, I'd like to ask again if you are still working on an update to fix this issue, that the pitch trim, with Flaps Full, and an approach speed of VREF Full + 5, requires full pitch trim up (13 degrees up), so that the autopilot can't maintain, while on FPA Mode, a descent angle of -3.0? Before the SP1, there were no concerns regarding the pitch trim, however, during approach, aircraft pitch were almost 10 degress up. Now this issue seems to have been partialy solved, because the aircraft pitch with Flaps Full, as Trevor said, should be about 2 to 2.5 instead of 5 or 6, but how do you explain the excess of pitch trim during approach and the heavy nose after touching down with main gears? Caio

Check if the fuel quantity is the same or almost the same on both wing tanks. I noticed that a difference greater than 50kg (110lbs) on each tank causes these roll tendencies you mentioned when in manual flight. I did a flight and forgot to turn off the apu after engines start, when I turned off the AP there was a imabalance of 300kg (660lbs) and it was difficult to keep the aircraft with wings leveled (APU burned fuel of the right tank and there was a tendency of turning to the left)...something that must be corrected on the next SP, small imabalances won't cause controlability issues.

Yes, I confirmed with a friend of mine who flies the real acft, the attitude for flaps full is what you said, 2 to 2.5. However, following the speeds that are on the manual (VREF Full + 5, on E175/195), to maintain a FPA of -3.0, pitch angle is still around 5 or 6 up, and worse, with autopilot on and LNAV lateral mode and FPA vertical mode active, it won’t be able to maintain that angle, due to the pitch trim required (it reaches the limit of 13 up, as I have mentioned before), so the acft will descend with a angle steeper than -3. What I’m doing to have a pitch attitude similar to the real aircraft, with the unreliable speed tables my friend provided me, is to consider VREF+10 for flaps 5 and VREF Icing+10 for flaps full, regardless of weather conditions

Hi! First of all, I'd like to congratulate Feelthere's team for developing this amazing aircraft! I've this aircraft installed before SP1 release, and many things has been improved, but there are things that still needs to be fixed. I was talking about this on another post, related to the aircraft jumping during rotation. I also mentioned on that topic that during landing, the aircraft's nose falls on the ground, like and acft that has its CoG on fwd limit. Maybe this heavy nose when touching the ground also explains why the aircraft needs too much, if not, full pitch trim up (13 up) with Flaps Full during approach and landing. When using Flaps 5, about 9 to 11 up. As far as I remember, the aircraft didn't have this excessive need of pitch trim during these phases before SP1, nor this heavy nose when touching the ground. One thing that has been corrected was the high aircraft's pitch attitude during approach and landing. However, it seems that the aircraft's pitch is still a little bit higher; with the aircraft on landing configuration, with a FPA of -3.0 and Flaps 5, pitch should be around 4 degrees up or less. Same situation with Flaps Full, pitch required to maintain a glide path of -3 is also 5 degrees up. I don't fly this aircraft on real world, but I guess that many jet aircrafts uses lower attitude pitch angles when landing with Flaps Full compared to a degree of flap before its full extension (e.g. Boeing 737, Flaps 40 requires a pitch attitude lower than Landing with Flaps 30, Airbus A320 with Conf 3 and Conf Full), so, maybe our E-Jets needs less than 4 degrees of pitch attitude during landing. I'm saying the attitude required on approach based on youtube videos of real-world operations. All those issues were observed on E175/E195 aircrafts, on P3D V4.5 HF2, Win10 Pro 64bit. Sending also links with landing pictures, with flaps 5 and Full. Thanks! https://imgur.com/a/3vyePz2 https://imgur.com/a/hpFCmpA

Hi, I'm having the same problem, too! No matter how smooth you pull the joystick, the aircraft's nose seems to jump. I guess that the jump @etopsbr mentioned isn't related to graphics issues, but aircraft handling. I've been using 3,5 to 5,5 of trim up for takeoff with Flaps 1, 2, 3 and 4, and we must care when rotating the aircraft, specially the streched 195. I couldn't find in the manual the recommended flight controls sensibility and null zone. Also during landing, when the aircraft touches the ground, the nose "falls" out like a heavy stone. I've also noticed that the acft needs full range of pitch trim during landing, from 9 to 13 up. Seems that the center of gravity was displaced to it's fwd limit, even with the acft being loaded via load manager and checking the CG position on "fuel and payload" P3D menu. I've been doing these test flights with the E195.