KeySend solution?

[RobertVdb]

Hello Pete and other readers,

I use a GF-RP48 as an EFIS for my PM screen (PFD). This module is directly connected to the FS PC.

When I program one of the push buttons as "PM ND rose mode" it doesn't change my display from arc to rose, although all other button features like APT, VOR, NDB and WX work well. So, I tried to work that around by a KeySend1=67 (="C") in the client PC and configured the button as Keysend with parameter 1 in FSUIPC. When I push te button the lower toolbar appears in the PFD monitor (I use PFD in full screen mode) but nothing else happens. I have tried with the extention run1 (because PFD is started with run1), but it doesn't help. Pushing "C" on the keyboard of the client PC does the job well.

My question is: what the best solution for a button to toggle the PFD between arc and rose and why is none of the above ways working?

Thanks

Robert

[Pete Dowson]

When I program one of the push buttons as "PM ND rose mode" it doesn't change my display from arc to rosewhat the best solution for a button to toggle the PFD between arc and rose and why is none of the above ways working?

Can you please post this on the PM support webboard. It is something which I am sure can be better answered there. All the FSUIPC "PM control" facilities are doing are toggling bits in PM-owned offsets. What happens then is totally in PM's hands.

As for KeySends, that really isn't a route I'd take with any PM modules -- they are far better controlled through their offsets, and that is, in fact, how they communicate with each other in the first place. However, you say:

So, I tried to work that around by a KeySend1=67 (="C") in the client PC and configured the button as Keysend with parameter 1 in FSUIPC. When I push te button the lower toolbar appears in the PFD monitor (I use PFD in full screen mode) but nothing else happens.

What, here, do you mean by "lower toolbar"? I'm really not sure why you can't produce a 'C' keypress aimed at PM, but if you show me the settings I may be able to help. However, I do think it's the poorer method, by far.

The most likely difficulty you have with PM ND modes is due to developments in PM -- there have been a lot of changes and unfortunately I think some of the bits originally allocated for functions no longer operate in the same way. I have not been able to keep up with all the changes that occur in PM.

You may find that you need to send a value to the general "PM GC Controls" offset instead. There's an FSUIPC control for that too. If you look in the FSUIPC Advanced User's guide you will see a list of parameter values, including Boeing "classic" mode 'MAP CTR' (your 'rose') and the new ND mode 'CTR pushbutton'.

I think which works will depend on how you've configured your ND in the PFD .INI file (or via the options on screen) as PM does support so many different ways of doing things now. Possibly, the only reason you've had any problems is because you'vce abandoned the 'classic' mode settings and gone to the 'new' modes.

Sorry I can't help much more. I tend to get equally confused as PM changes and i cannot see what does what. But folks will have sussed it out, and they will be on the PM support web site/newsgroup, which is where I think you should be?

Okay?

Regards,

Pete

[RobertVdb]

Thank you , Pete, for your prompt answer.

I appreciate very much your efforts for the FS community.

I didn't realize that the problem could reside in PM, and I will surely put it on the forum there.

The keyboard command for toggling between rose and arc on the ND screen is just "C". By emulating this command by KeySend I hoped to made it possible to toggle between arc and rose.

With the lower toolbar I mean that in using full window PDF-ND the toolbar with "start" and the running programs titels appear.

I will also try the other PM 2999 command and see what that gives.

Thanks again

Robert

[Pete Dowson]

The keyboard command for toggling between rose and arc on the ND screen is just "C". By emulating this command by KeySend I hoped to made it possible to toggle between arc and rose.

Well, yes, that should easily be possible but ...

With the lower toolbar I mean that in using full window PDF-ND the toolbar with "start" and the running programs titels appear.

... this really indicates that you have something wrong with your parameters in the WideClient INI file. No way pressing "C" should bring up the Windows taskbar. You are somehow causing a different keypress, or having it addressed to the wrong program, one minimised to the task bar. If you want me to check that you'll need to tell me what programs are running on that PC and show me your INI file.

Regards,

Pete

[RobertVdb]

Well, Pete, meanwhile, I have tried a few other things such as putting the button command ...C2999,6 (corresponds to New ND modes - CTR pushbutton) in the FSUIPC.INI and believe it or not, it works! It toggles nicely between rose and arc. This means that the special MP commands still work fine. Thank you for that hint. So, I will not work further with KeySend.

Best regards

Robert

[Pete Dowson]

Well, Pete, meanwhile, I have tried a few other things such as putting the button command ...C2999,6 (corresponds to New ND modes - CTR pushbutton) in the FSUIPC.INI and believe it or not, it works! It toggles nicely between rose and arc. This means that the special MP commands still work fine.

Right -- I suspect that the bits changed by the other PM ND control you used was programmed for the older mode and that's why it doesn't work with the new one.

I don't think Enrico properly maintains the use of the toggle bits method those FSUIPC PM commands use, preferring things to go via the general parameter-driven interface. I think this comes about because of the complications with assorted modes and first/second officer differentiation.

Regards,

Pete

[RobertVdb]

Good to know.

Thanks again

Robert