Perfect Flight Cirrus yoke, pedal, throttle ? for Pete

[brannons]

Hello. I have a question about the perfect flight cirrus yoke, and pedals with the pfc.dll. I understand that you make a pfc.dll for the serial throttle quadrant. Are there any advantages to having the yoke and pedals wired to the quadrant via serial connections versus usb connections directly connected to the PC?

PFC is asking me if I want the yoke and pedals to be usb or serial. If they are serial, they plug into the throttle quadrant and the quadrant plugs into the PC serial port.

Otherwise, I could get them with usb cables and they would connect directly to the pc. I understand that the rudder trim wouldn't work, but I'm more concearned with being sure that that the yoke and pedals are as realistic as possible.

Doesn't the fsuipc.dll make yokes and pedals more realistic?

Thanks for all of your hard work by the way.

Brannon

[Pete Dowson]

Hello. I have a question about the perfect flight cirrus yoke, and pedals with the pfc.dll.

Not heard of "perfect flight cirrus". Are they the PFC devices marketed under someone else's brand?

I understand that you make a pfc.dll for the serial throttle quadrant.

The PFC.DLL I provide is for all PFC devices using the digital controllers, connected to the PC either via a serial port link, or possibly a USB one using a serial port adapter or driver.

Are there any advantages to having the yoke and pedals wired to the quadrant via serial connections versus usb connections directly connected to the PC?

Sorry, I've really no idea as I've never had PFC devices connected directly. I think you'd need them re-wired in any case to route them via the digital controller.

However, these are most certainly questions you should direct to PFC if they are, indeed, the makers of your devices.

PFC is asking me if I want the yoke and pedals to be usb or serial. If they are serial, they plug into the throttle quadrant and the quadrant plugs into the PC serial port.

Oh, you've not even got them yet? Where does this "Perfect Flight" name come into it? I'm a bit confused now. "PFC" is "Precision Flight Controls".

Otherwise, I could get them with usb cables and they would connect directly to the pc. I understand that the rudder trim wouldn't work, but I'm more concearned with being sure that that the yoke and pedals are as realistic as possible.

I don't see why connecting them as game devices direct to the PC and having standard Windows drivers handle them makes them any better than what I can do with them via PFC.DLL. I would have thought having an integrated system would be more an advantage. The only advantage i can thing of having them as separate standard-type deives is that you could seel them separately. If they only work with a controller you'd have to sell them as a complete system.

Doesn't the fsuipc.dll make yokes and pedals more realistic?

More realistic than what? I wrote FSUIPC.DLL and PFC.DLL. Why should I deliberately make one worse or better than the other?

Regards

Pete

[brannons]

I'm sorry for the confusion. Let me try again. I confused myself.

http://www.flypfc.com/specials/specials.html

I'm looking at purchasing the "flight simulator combo $1,295.00" at the above Precision Flight Control's site.

The throttle quadrant is what it is, a serial device.(You write the drivers for these, I'm told, in the form of the pfc.dll). The yoke and pedals in the above package come in one of two ways.

1. Both the yoke and the pedals plug directly into the throttle quadrant(DB9 connection). The quadrant then plugs into the PC via a serial cable.

2. The yoke and pedals have usb cables and can be plugged into the pc directly. The throttle quadrant still plugs into the pc via a serial cable .

My question is, besides the rudder trim knob on the throttle quadrant, is there any benefit from you PFC.dll to having the yoke and pedals(option 1) connected directly to the throttle quadrant.

If not, I'll order the yoke and pedals wired with usb connections isolated from the throttle quadrant.

I spoke with Precision Flight controls, and they told me to read your documentation about the pfc.dll to decide how I want the yoke and pedals wired.

[Pete Dowson]

The throttle quadrant is what it is, a serial device.(You write the drivers for these, I'm told, in the form of the pfc.dll

Yes, as I said.

The yoke and pedals in the above package come in one of two ways.

1. Both the yoke and the pedals plug directly into the throttle quadrant(DB9 connection). The quadrant then plugs into the PC via a serial cable.

2. The yoke and pedals have usb cables and can be plugged into the pc directly. The throttle quadrant still plugs into the pc via a serial cable .

Yes, I understand that as well. they do the normal game device USB versions to sell as separate units to folks who don't need or don't want one of the units with the digital controllers (it is their digital controllers which my PFC.DLL interfaces to across a serial connection).

My question is, besides the rudder trim knob on the throttle quadrant, is there any benefit from you PFC.dll to having the yoke and pedals(option 1) connected directly to the throttle quadrant.

That I cannot answer as I've never had them connected any other way. I prefer it all to be controlled from one place. I have no idea what their Windows joystick driver for those is like, nor whether it supports all of the switches on the yoke. Sorry.

I would have thought that the only possible advantage of having them as separate devices is that you can sell them separately if you like, rather than have to dispose of them as a complete set, should you ever want to sell them in the first place. I cannot judge any possible disadvanges because I don't have such devices to try.

As far as the facilities in my driver are concerned why not just download it and read the user documentation?

I spoke with Precision Flight controls, and they told me to read your documentation about the pfc.dll to decide how I want the yoke and pedals wired.

There you aregreat minds;-)

Pete

[flypfc]

Brannon

The only advantage to using the USB is that it looks to windows as a joystick and can be used in other games that don’t have a PFC driver

If you are only using the hardware in FS and X-plane it is best to connect to the quadrant