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Peter

I originally had problems with the Add-on menu but thanks to information on your forum I traced it to the my Firewall. Now removed I get the add-on menu. However I am still having issues, specifically after a few minutes of flight, I would crash to the desktop. After loading version 4.06 of FSUIPC4 I would no longer crash but the screen would go dark, I will see the 100% load dialog box then the game would continue. Below is the FSUIPC4.log from that event. Can you provide any insight as to what may be occuring.

********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.06 by Pete Dowson *********

User Name="Michael Bowie"

User Addr="mdbowie@rogers.com"

FSUIPC Key is provided

WIDEFS not user registered, or expired

Running inside FSX

Module base=61000000

LogOptions=00000001

DebugStatus=15

203 System time = 16:25:47

203 FLT UNC path = "\\CR504304-A\C\Documents and Settings\FSX\My Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\"

203 FS UNC path = "E:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\"

3610 SimConnect_Open succeeded: proceeding to initialise interface!

21047 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.60905.0 (SimConnect: 2.0.60905.0)

39625 SimStart Event: Initialising SimConnect data requests

39625 FSUIPC Menu entry added

39844 C:\Documents and Settings\FSX\My Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\Startup.FLT

39844 E:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\F1_Cessna_172\F1_Cessna_172.AIR

40235 System time = 16:26:27, FSX time = 16:26:03 (21:26Z)

40703 Aircraft="Skyhawk 172R"

42125 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled

73110 AppKey="9G9LCNT2MDUY"

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143250 **** Simconnect Data Stalled! Re-connecting now****

143250 SimConnect_Open succeeded: proceeding to initialise interface!

143250 Initialising SimConnect data requests now

143250 FSUIPC Menu entry added

143344 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.60905.0 (SimConnect: 2.0.60905.0)

144000 System time = 16:28:11, FSX time = 16:26:03 (21:26Z)

146344 **** Simconnect Data Stalled! Re-connecting now****

146344 SimConnect_Open succeeded: proceeding to initialise interface!

146344 Initialising SimConnect data requests now

146344 FSUIPC Menu entry added

146375 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.60905.0 (SimConnect: 2.0.60905.0)

147016 System time = 16:28:14, FSX time = 16:26:03 (21:26Z)

149157 NWI weather clear actioned

149157 External weather discarded

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Thanks Mike

Posted

I originally had problems with the Add-on menu but thanks to information on your forum I traced it to the my Firewall. Now removed I get the add-on menu. However I am still having issues, specifically after a few minutes of flight, I would crash to the desktop. After loading version 4.06 of FSUIPC4 I would no longer crash but the screen would go dark, I will see the 100% load dialog box then the game would continue.

That seems to happen quite a lot with FSX. It's normal to see the Traffic reloading if the time has been changed by more than a minute or so, and it might even be reloading if the weather is changed significantly. I see you are running ActiveSky -- is that the 6.5 update? Do these events coincide with a weather update?

Below is the FSUIPC4.log from that event. Can you provide any insight as to what may be occuring.

Well, this doesn't look good:

143250 **** Simconnect Data Stalled! Re-connecting now****

...

146344 **** Simconnect Data Stalled! Re-connecting now****

Seems that something is preventing Simconnect operations here.

Do you have any other SimConnect client programs or DLLs running? Simconnect seems to stumble quite easily at present when more than one program is using it.

Then:

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...

etc

seems to be ActiveSky repeating its initialisation attempts again, over and over, every 6-7 seconds. I'm not sure what would make it do that. Possibly the new (third) connection to Simconnect isn't functioning properly either?

IIn a P.S> below you'll find directions for getting a Simconnect Log, which may help work out what it is doing. At least it may provide more detailed evidence to send to Microsoft. I hope and expect that they are working furiously on fixing all these things right now, but to what timescales I really have no idea I'm afraid.

Regards

Pete

To get a Simconnect LOG:

Create a file containing these lines:

[simConnect]

level=Verbose

console=No

file=C:\SimConnect%01u.Log

file_max_index=9

and save it as Simconnect.ini in your "My Documents\Flight Simulator X files" folder.

The Log will be found, after or even during your FSX session, in the C:\ root folder. You can of course set the path to somewhere more convenient. With the options as shown you will get s file "SimConnect1.Log" first, then on the next FSX session "SimConnect2.Log" and so on, with it cycling back to 1 after 9, overwriting previous copies.

Posted
Well, this doesn't look good:

143250 **** Simconnect Data Stalled! Re-connecting now****

...

146344 **** Simconnect Data Stalled! Re-connecting now****

Seems that something is preventing Simconnect operations here.

Do you have any other SimConnect client programs or DLLs running? Simconnect seems to stumble quite easily at present when more than one program is using it.

I am running TrackIR Pro 3 Beta 4 software as well as the ActiveSky 6.5 Build 536. I am not sure if TrackIR use the SimConnect. They originally had a problem with Beta 3 where it would not connect. Other than that I I don't think there is anything else

One additional item that I did not mention but may in some way be related. When FSX starts and is running, it seems to consume 50% of the processing on one thread of the processor, very little is happening on the other thread. But FSX seems to take over the machine, switching tasks "Alt Tab" takes forever and sometimes will hang the machine completely.

Will try the SimConnect log and see if I can determine anything

Mike

Followup

Peter Captured the simconnect log. I have a ttached an edited version of the Simconnect to reduce size and also the FSUIPC4 log.

Mike

logs.zip

Posted

I am running TrackIR Pro 3 Beta 4 software as well as the ActiveSky 6.5 Build 536. I am not sure if TrackIR use the SimConnect.

Yes, it does.

One additional item that I did not mention but may in some way be related. When FSX starts and is running, it seems to consume 50% of the processing on one thread of the processor, very little is happening on the other thread.

Yes, all versions of FS are like that. They do not make good use of multiple processors.

But FSX seems to take over the machine, switching tasks "Alt Tab" takes forever and sometimes will hang the machine completely.

Yes, FSX is very demanding and quite fragile, especially if you run it in full screen mode. If you want to do other things I would recommend you only ever run it in Windowed mode (ALT + ENTER). It also seems less likely to crash or hang in Windowed mode.

Will try the SimConnect log and see if I can determine anything

It sounds very much like a typical Simconnect problem with two Simconnect clients running. Please gather all the information you have on this, including what you've told me here and send it to tell_fs@microsoft.com.

It might be a good idea to try FS with one one of the Simconnect clients at a time, just to prove that it is okay then.

Peter Captured the simconnect log. I have a ttached an edited version of the Simconnect to reduce size and also the FSUIPC4 log.

Okay. I'll have a look ...

... Hmmm. Odd. No useful information in the SimConnect Log, because just after Active Camera has started, two other starts must occur but all the information has been replaced by ".... info removed"! How did that happen?

Here:

> 17.03827 [63, 10]CameraSetRelative6DOF:fDeltaX=0.000021, fDeltaY=-0.000020, fDeltaZ=0.000188, fPitchDeg=-0.012608, fBankDeg=0.000000, fHeadingDeg=-0.015277

>............................ Info removed

>............................................

> 319.95280 [61, 4994]TransmitClientEvent:ObjectID=0, EventID=65764, dwData=1557, GroupID=2, Flags=0

Active Camera is client #63somewhere in the intervening 302 seconds (which you've removed?) FSUIPC starts, and presumably restarts? Or something else? The following line is about Client #61, so a whole client #62 has come and gone already! Why is this a secret?

If you are going to send any stuff to MS I would advise not to delete all the possibly important parts! ;-)

Anyway, try a complete flight with Active Sky but without Active Camera.

Regards

Pete

Posted
Yes, FSX is very demanding and quite fragile, especially if you run it in full screen mode. If you want to do other things I would recommend you only ever run it in Windowed mode (ALT + ENTER). It also seems less likely to crash or hang in Windowed mode.

Will try the windowed mode and see what happens

It sounds very much like a typical Simconnect problem with two Simconnect clients running. Please gather all the information you have on this, including what you've told me here and send it to tell_fs@microsoft.com.

Will tell_fs

It might be a good idea to try FS with one one of the Simconnect clients at a time, just to prove that it is okay then.

I am out of town for the week but will do some experimenting on my return

... Hmmm. Odd. No useful information in the SimConnect Log, because just after Active Camera has started, two other starts must occur but all the information has been replaced by ".... info removed"! How did that happen?

I had removed the information (my comment) to reduce the file size for attachment

Active Camera is client #63somewhere in the intervening 302 seconds (which you've removed?) FSUIPC starts, and presumably restarts? Or something else? The following line is about Client #61, so a whole client #62 has come and gone already! Why is this a secret?

Not intentional, file size, believe me! :oops:

If you are going to send any stuff to MS I would advise not to delete all the possibly important parts! ;-)

Anyway, try a complete flight with Active Sky but without Active Camera.

Will do and thanks, appreciate your efforts and contribution

Mike

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