FSUIPC PROBLEM AFTER ADD-ON IN FS2004

[wilevs337]

Hi.

After a lot of problems I manually installed the Captainsim F104 using their code as auto-install would not work. On starting FS2004 a message appeared stating that the wrong version of FSUIPC was being used and that it would close. FS2004 would not start at all after that, although I had removed my hard won F104 the same error message appeared at every attempt.

The only way I could get FS2004 to start was by purchasing the latest version of FSUIPC.

The question is - if I try the CaptainSim F104 again will it be accepted, or is this linked to an earlier version of Fsuipc?

I would not like to risk the loss of FS2004 again.

I have other Captain Sim products which have been problem free.

I also forgot to note the versions listed in the error message - but I was in shock at the time!

Cheers

[Pete Dowson]

After a lot of problems I manually installed the Captainsim F104 using their code as auto-install would not work. On starting FS2004 a message appeared stating that the wrong version of FSUIPC was being used and that it would close. FS2004 would not start at all after that, although I had removed my hard won F104 the same error message appeared at every attempt.

FSUIPC cannot be responsible for any of that. Evidently something installed an old and incompatible version, that's all. To deal with that simply delete the FSUIPC.DLL from the Modules folder or replace it with a later version. There's nothing complicated about FSUIPC installation. It is either there, or it isn't. When it isn't it cannot possibly do anything at all.

The only way I could get FS2004 to start was by purchasing the latest version of FSUIPC.

Purchasing? Why purchasing? I know of no problem whatsoever that necessitates any purchase! I think you are severely misunderstanding things.

The question is - if I try the CaptainSim F104 again will it be accepted, or is this linked to an earlier version of Fsuipc?

I have no idea what CaptainSim F104 is. If you want support of such products you must ask those that make or support it. I cannot possible answer for them or what they do.

I would not like to risk the loss of FS2004 again.

There is no way any program of mine EVER causes any loss of anything. They are all simple modules which are either installed or not. When you delete FSUIPC.DLL it is gone, has no effect, same as never existing!

Pete

[wilevs337]

Hi Pete,

A lot of us out here only have a vague idea of the inner workings of MFS and have to work pretty much in the dark. I suspected that an early version of FSUIPC had been installed with the F104 but the problem was that FS2004 simply would not start, despite the error message indicating that only the F104 would be unsupported. I have finally obtained the information from the CaptainSim support team indicating that this is what happened and that replacing their installation of the dll with the new, should fix the problem.

Whilst FSUIPC might simply work away in the background it does seem to have some influence on the general working of the sim because nothing worked until I updated.

Anyway, thanks for the information.

Cheers

[Pete Dowson]

Hi Pete,

A lot of us out here only have a vague idea of the inner workings of MFS and have to work pretty much in the dark. I suspected that an early version of FSUIPC had been installed with the F104 but the problem was that FS2004 simply would not start, despite the error message indicating that only the F104 would be unsupported.

Well, the only "not start" condition I know which can be caused by FSUIPC is when FSUIPC finds it doesn't know the version of FS it is in and then it does actually provides a message telling you it is the wrong version. And for that to happen the version of FSUIPC installed has to pre-date the version of FS -- presumably in this case 9.1. That makes that FSUIPC at least 4 years out of date. Any other reasons for "not starting" are certainly nothing to do with FSUIPC, but may be due to the bad behaviour of some add-ons. There is absolutely no way I can support other add-ons, and especially not bad ones!

I have finally obtained the information from the CaptainSim support team indicating that this is what happened and that replacing their installation of the dll with the new, should fix the problem.

Exactly, so that's where you should have gone in the first place.

Whilst FSUIPC might simply work away in the background it does seem to have some influence on the general working of the sim because nothing worked until I updated.

That simply cannot be true. FS must always work without FSUIPC, otherwise Microsoft would have withdrawn it long ago. You DO NOT NEED FSUIPC to have a WORKING version of FS. You never, ever have! It is NOT an essential part, but an additional facility.

What you simply cannot expect is to install any old piece of software into the FS9 modules folder and expect FS to work -- it doesn't matter if it is an ancient version of FSUIPC or any other DLL you might pull from a hat. If it gets loaded into FS and messes it up, it won't run properly. At least FSUIPC does tell you exactly what the problem is. If you didn't want to update it to a supported version, less old than 4 years of so, you only needed to delete it!

Pete

[wilevs337]

Hi Pete,

First, I did search the Captain Sim F104 support pages but the problem was not indicated, only coming to light later as problem No. 290 on their list of more general problems affecting other products too. Also, Captain Sim produce some state-of-the-art add-ons, such as the C130 Hercules and one could expect their products work as advertised.

Sure, once the problem is identified it is easy to fix. The F104 now works just fine, as does FS2004 with the newer FSUIPC dll installed after the F104 but, as I said, for some of us this is just working in the dark.

Perhaps I should have titled the post " Older add-on causes FSUIPC conflict," but I am genuinely grateful for any information that leads to a better understanding of MFS.

Cheers