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[avan1001]

Hi Pete,

[JoystickCalibration]

ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes

ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes

ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=0

RudderTrimControl=0

CowlFlaps1Control=0

CowlFlaps2Control=0

CowlFlaps3Control=0

CowlFlaps4Control=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

Rudder=-16380,-512,512,16380/8

Aileron=-16380,-512,512,10000/8

Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380/8

LeftBrake=0,0/16

RightBrake=0,0/16

[Axes]

0=0R,256,D,0,0,0,36

1=1X,256,D,1,0,0,0

2=1Y,256,D,0,2,0,0

3=2X,256,D,0,0,0,7

4=2Y,256,D,0,0,0,8

5=2Z,256,D,0,0,3,0

[JoyNames]

AutoAssignLetters=No

0=WingMan Extreme Digital 3D

1=Logitech Attack 3

2=CH PRO PEDALS USB

After installing on a new PC...

Aileron and elevator is not moving smoothly and position gets stuck.

Ive tried several USB connections in vain.

The only thing "weird" I can find is that :

The aileron IN and OUT are showing 16380 but when setting the axis it always only shows 10000, as you can see from above extract of the .ini file.

Can you assist pse?

Kind regards

Tony

[Pete Dowson]

I've reversed your message -- seems odd starting a postiing with a file. Best to put the question first, please?

After installing on a new PC...

Aileron and elevator is not moving smoothly and position gets stuck.

Ive tried several USB connections in vain.

The only thing "weird" I can find is that :

The aileron IN and OUT are showing 16380 but when setting the axis it always only shows 10000, as you can see from above extract of the .ini file.

Actually, it appears that you've yet properly calibrated any of the axes at all. The -16380,-512,512,16380 are default values -- ones FSUIPC assumed if you do nothing! Surely they can't be exactly right? It never happens in my experience! You need to go through the process properly, establishing small null zones at either extreme, and a nice centre.

And you have enabled the Filtering option on the three main axes, too. Why? That's only needed if you have bad jitter -- usually caused by poor power supplies. It was added for a user in the jungles of South East Asia! The disadvantage of filters is that the slwo response down.

The brakes won't work with 0,0 calibration, either:

LeftBrake=0,0/16

RightBrake=0,0/16

And what have you done here:

[Axes]

0=0R,256,D,0,0,0,36

1=1X,256,D,1,0,0,0

2=1Y,256,D,0,2,0,0

3=2X,256,D,0,0,0,7

4=2Y,256,D,0,0,0,8

5=2Z,256,D,0,0,3,0

Only in the case of the aileron have you used the first line assignment. The others seem to be randomly distributed over the 2nd, 3rd or 4th assignments, intended for use when you have more than one control to assign. Why haven't you used the first one each time?

It should still work, but it is a bit worrying as the facility is not at all designed to be used like that. I don't understand, when you have a list of things, why you'd leave the top few empty and use one in the middle or bottom?

I'd recommend re-doing those, making a ll your first assignments the first assigned. Then go to the calibration screen and actually calibrate each axis properly -- please follow the numbered steps for this in the User Guide. You'll find things work MUCH better when calibrated! That's what you are using FSUIPC for in the first place, probably, so its a waste having it do worse than FS would alone! Oh, and un-check those Filters!

Also, I see you have a steering tiller assigned, but apparently not enabled in the calibration -- so that won't work.

I see no Throttles assigned. Do you use the keyboard for throttle control? If you have a throttle axis and it is operating through FS, not through FSUIPC, it implies that you have a joystick enabled in FS as well as in FSUIPC. if you mix thing like this, do take care that you don't have the same axes assigned in both places. The symptoms you complain of could most certainly arise from such a mixture! You should really either do everything in FS or everything in FSUIPC, else it is easy to get it really messy.

Regards

Pete

[avan1001]

Much later :

It appears to be an hydraulic problem.

With engines running all moves smoothly.

Speaking about a realistic model.....

Thanks Pete for your detailed response.

There was definitely something wrong with my "calibration" work.

After another thorough reading of the numbered steps of your manual and following your remarks I obtained the undermentioned .ini file.

Regrettably the Yoke's aileron and elevator still stutters and gets stuck in different positions.

The steering tiller is working fine, with our without calibrating.

As regards the throttle ( Both Yoke and throttle are made by Van den Broeck in Belgium) it is connected to a client PC and running with a driver and phidgets.msi.

Ive never had any trouble before with this set-up.

Can you pse have a look again at the ini-file and give me your comment :

[JoystickCalibration]

ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes

ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes

ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes

SepRevsJetsOnly=No

ApplyHeloTrim=No

FlapsSetControl=0

FlapDetents=No

ReverserControl=66292

Reverser1Control=66422

Reverser2Control=66425

Reverser3Control=66428

Reverser4Control=66431

MaxThrottleForReverser=256

AileronTrimControl=0

RudderTrimControl=0

CowlFlaps1Control=0

CowlFlaps2Control=0

CowlFlaps3Control=0

CowlFlaps4Control=0

MaxSteerSpeed=60

Rudder=-16384,-512,0,16383

Aileron=-16125,-512,0,16383

Elevator=-16384,-512,0,16383

LeftBrake=-16251,2340

RightBrake=-16384,0

SteeringTiller=-16384,0,512,16383

[Axes]

0=0R,256,D,36,0,0,0

1=1X,256,D,1,0,0,0

2=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

3=2X,256,D,7,0,0,0

4=2Y,256,D,8,0,0,0

5=2Z,256,D,3,0,0,0

[JoyNames]

AutoAssignLetters=No

0=WingMan Extreme Digital 3D

1=Logitech Attack 3

2=CH PRO PEDALS USB

Kind regards

Tony

[Pete Dowson]

Regrettably the Yoke's aileron and elevator still stutters and gets stuck in different positions.

...

Rudder=-16384,-512,0,16383

Aileron=-16125,-512,0,16383

Elevator=-16384,-512,0,16383

LeftBrake=-16251,2340

RightBrake=-16384,0

SteeringTiller=-16384,0,512,16383

I still find your calibration results rather weird. -16384 and +16383 are the very minimum and maximum values possible, which means you've no leeway for slight changes at the extremes, and having the centre so precisely -512 to 0 or similar is so unlikely it just looks wrong, as if the devices are either software (not hardware at all and subject to any physical variations). In other words, they still look uncalibrated, pretty much.

As for your axes:

[Axes]

0=0R,256,D,36,0,0,0

1=1X,256,D,1,0,0,0

2=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,0

3=2X,256,D,7,0,0,0

4=2Y,256,D,8,0,0,0

5=2Z,256,D,3,0,0,0

[JoyNames]

AutoAssignLetters=No

0=WingMan Extreme Digital 3D

1=Logitech Attack 3

2=CH PRO PEDALS USB

Are those ALL of the axes on each device -- i.e. does the Wingman only have one axis (0R)? Are you sure there are no other axes being assigned in FS?

What you describe can really only be caused by bad hardware, bad wiring, bad USB port, or multiple assignment. The last could be multiple assignments in FS conflicting with those in FSUIPC. Or maybe from that "driver and phidgets.msi" part. You did say:

Both Yoke and throttle are made by Van den Broeck in Belgium) it is connected to a client PC and running with a driver and phidgets.msi.

Ive never had any trouble before with this set-up

So why is the throttle taking a different route to the yoke? Are you sure you've not got your setup all wrong there? If it all worked "before" you need to determine what made the "after" different. Maybe you need to talk to Mr. Van den Broeck?

Regards

Pete