Maybe OT - FSUIPC and PMDG 737 and 747 (FS2004)

[FlyingAxx]

Hi all,

Maybe here somebody can give me a hint regarding a problem that I posted in the PMDG forum at the end of July without getting any response up to now.

For quite a long time now some of my buddies and I are flying connected via FSHOST and Teamspeak around the world (zigzagging with a couple hundred legs now). I have no problem watching them in any TCAS system (freeware or payware) except in those of my PMDG B737-800/900 and as well the of my B747-400 (both in CD version with all updates available). I tried the settings in either mode (FS2004 and FSUIP, the latter I found recommended in PMDG OPS) in the PMDG options menu but without any success. Off-line all the AI traffic is visible as it should. I'm not using VATSIM & Co so I cannot judge how it works with those networks.

Question: is there anything in the interface which might work different when using FSHost compared to other online networks? BTW, I'm using a registered FSUIPC and mostly a recent version. It's nothing that really hurts as we are using FSNAV as well where the traffic is shown (BTW, could this be the reason, as FSNav opens a second communication channel from inside FS2004? I can try this next Sunday), just a question whether it should work or not.

Regards,

Axel

[Pete Dowson]

For quite a long time now some of my buddies and I are flying connected via FSHOST and Teamspeak around the world (zigzagging with a couple hundred legs now). I have no problem watching them in any TCAS system (freeware or payware) except in those of my PMDG B737-800/900 and as well the of my B747-400 (both in CD version with all updates available). I tried the settings in either mode (FS2004 and FSUIP, the latter I found recommended in PMDG OPS) in the PMDG options menu but without any success. Off-line all the AI traffic is visible as it should.

Does my TrafficLook utility show the traffic? Are those freeware/payware TCAS systems using FSUIPC to obtain their data?

If TrafficLook shows the on-line traffic, then FSHost or something (AIBridge?) must be injecting them into FSUIPC. If this is the case, and PMDG TCAS displays use FSUIPC for this, then I can only think that the PMDG gauge is making some discrinmination based on the ID of the injected aircraft.

If TrafficLook does not show the aircraft, then you have nothing telling FSUIPC about the on-line aircraft, so the information is not available to any add-on reading the data from FSUIPC. As far as I remember, for FS2004 the data either needed Jose Oliveiras "AIBridge", or the automatic injection from Squawkbox 3. I don't know anything about FSHost and that method.

It's nothing that really hurts as we are using FSNAV as well where the traffic is shown

FSNav does not use FSUIPC.

Regards

Pete

[FlyingAxx]

Does my TrafficLook utility show the traffic? Are those freeware/payware TCAS systems using FSUIPC to obtain their data?

If TrafficLook shows the on-line traffic, then FSHost or something (AIBridge?) must be injecting them into FSUIPC. If this is the case, and PMDG TCAS displays use FSUIPC for this, then I can only think that the PMDG gauge is making some discrinmination based on the ID of the injected aircraft.

If TrafficLook does not show the aircraft, then you have nothing telling FSUIPC about the on-line aircraft, so the information is not available to any add-on reading the data from FSUIPC. As far as I remember, for FS2004 the data either needed Jose Oliveiras "AIBridge", or the automatic injection from Squawkbox 3. I don't know anything about FSHost and that method.

Thanks for the hint. I'll try it out latest on Sunday and will report the results.

FSNav does not use FSUIPC.

Yes I know. I thought about a sort of "misguided communication".

Thanks Pete.

Regards,

Axel

[FlyingAxx]

If TrafficLook does not show the aircraft, then you have nothing telling FSUIPC about the on-line aircraft, so the information is not available to any add-on reading the data from FSUIPC. As far as I remember, for FS2004 the data either needed Jose Oliveiras "AIBridge", or the automatic injection from Squawkbox 3. I don't know anything about FSHost and that method.

Thanks for the hint. I'll try it out latest on Sunday and will report the results.

Hello Pete,

Obviously there is no way tracking the traffic via FSUIPC as it doesn't show up in TrafficLook --> no TCAS display in PMDG aircraft. :(

Does AIBridge "inject" remote traffic in a way that makes it visible for FSUIPC? Today I had no chance bringing AIBridge to connect as I'm running FS normally with restricted user rights and AIBridge failed passing the Windows Firewall. Well, I did not want to make my buddies waiting any longer so I have to prepare this one a bit better next time. Anyway, thanks for the hints.

Regards,

Axel

[Pete Dowson]

Does AIBridge "inject" remote traffic in a way that makes it visible for FSUIPC?

That is, or maybe was, its entire purpose. I think it was invented to work with an earlier version of SquawkBox, so I don't know if it'll work with anything else. Squawkbox 3 was enhanced to do the job itself, so AIbridge fell into disuse I think.

Regards

Pete

[FlyingAxx]

If TrafficLook does not show the aircraft, then you have nothing telling FSUIPC about the on-line aircraft, so the information is not available to any add-on reading the data from FSUIPC. As far as I remember, for FS2004 the data either needed Jose Oliveiras "AIBridge", or the automatic injection from Squawkbox 3. I don't know anything about FSHost and that method.

Hello Pete,

Sometimes it takes a bit longer... However, meanwhile I made some more research an found out that PMDG obviously is using the TCAS gauge (of Lee Hetherington that can principally two different interfaces, one to FSUIPC and as an alternative to TrafficInfo of MS. Yesterday I was able to verify, that the latter is working, indeed and I have no idea why it didn't in my tests before when switching the multilplayer mode to FS2004 in the PMDG options. Anyway, thank you very much since you gave me the push for searching the right keywords. :D

Regards,

Axel

[Pete Dowson]

Yesterday I was able to verify, that the latter is working, indeed and I have no idea why it didn't in my tests before when switching the multilplayer mode to FS2004 in the PMDG options. Anyway, thank you very much since you gave me the push for searching the right keywords. :D

Aha! Glad you found the solution!

Pete