FSX crashes when flying in the dark

[janjansen]

Don't know if I have to open an new topic of it because there already exist one, but old http://forums.simflight.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=71095

If not, let me know and I will post furtheron in the old topic.

Now the problem: have exactly the same problem as described in the old thread http://forums.simflight.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=71095, it occurred when I installed an add-on which also installed the unregistered version 4.28 (I believe) of FSUIPC.

Before that I was flying with version 4.20.

Yes, I have the CH yoke and pedals but I guess that these are not the cause of the problems.

In daytime NO problems, when flying in the dark an complete system crash after 10-15 minutes will follow!

Has made an complete new fresh setup, system, FSX and addons but it still happens.

Installed version 4.53, still crashes.

Installed version 4.533 still crashes.

Had luckely version 4.20, installed it, problems gone!!

System:

QX9770

XFX 790I

2 x 8800 GT in sli

2x2GB DDR3 1800mhz

CH yoke

CH pedal

24"TFT (yammie, yammie)

[Pete Dowson]

it occurred when I installed an add-on which also installed the unregistered version 4.28 (I believe) of FSUIPC.

Before that I was flying with version 4.20.

Neither of those are supported. The minimum version number for any support is 4.53.

In daytime NO problems, when flying in the dark an complete system crash after 10-15 minutes will follow!

Has made an complete new fresh setup, system, FSX and addons but it still happens.

Installed version 4.53, still crashes.

Installed version 4.533 still crashes.

Had luckely version 4.20, installed it, problems gone!!

It must be complete coincidence of timing. There is nothing in FSUIPC which knows anything about day or night, nor cares. Not only that, but an unregistered copy is actually doing nothing at all -- only passing on anything from your applications to FS via SimConnect.

It is most likely to be a video driver problem, or simply that you have your settings rather too high. For some reason I've never fathomed, FS has always imposed much more of a load on the system with night renditions compared to day. Weird but true.

Regards

Pete

[janjansen]

Wel, for 1 1/2 hrs it is now flying behing me with version 4.20, that's more then with version 4.53 for 10 minutes and crashing!

I still believe that there is something wrong with FSUIPC, how could you explain that with version 4.20 FSX is flying without crashes and with version 4.53 FSX IS crashing?

Furtheron, see the old topic, I am not the only one with this problem.

[Pete Dowson]

Wel, for 1 1/2 hrs it is now flying behing me with version 4.20, that's more then with version 4.53 for 10 minutes and crashing!

I still believe that there is something wrong with FSUIPC, how could you explain that with version 4.20 FSX is flying without crashes and with version 4.53 FSX IS crashing?

It's simply got to be either a difference in the add-ons using FSUIPC, or simply a slight difference in timings of paths through FSUIPC or memory occupied. Without registration FSUIPC is simply a window for applications to talk to FS, nothing else. And the difference between day and night time flying is only a difference in video driver load and FS performance.

Furtheron, see the old topic, I am not the only one with this problem.

Fair enough, but the same argument applies.

Sorry, but FSUIPC is a scapegoat for all these sorts of things, and it does become rather tiring. It's been the same old argument for 10 years now.

Since you are unregistered and actually need no support from me (you've sorted it yourself, at least to your satisfaction), there's really nothing else i can help you with, is there now?

Regards

Pete

[janjansen]

First off all, I AM AN REGISTERED USER!!!!!!!!

Secondly, you won't like it I suppose, in my opinion it is an cheap way to solve the problems to say that I..... and that you......

Registered or not IT IS YOUR PROGRAM WHAT IS CAUSING PROBLEMS and not mine program, furtheron your program is essential for FS, even M$ delivers FS with your (unregistered) program!

It is very strange that version 4.53 or 4.533 is crashing the system and version 4.20 is doing what it should do, flying.

[Pete Dowson]

First off all, I AM AN REGISTERED USER!!!!!!!!

Oh, right. I was misled by your statement

it occurred when I installed an add-on which also installed the unregistered version 4.28 (I believe) of FSUIPC.

You see, it isn't the copy or version of FSUIPC which is registered or unregistered, and nothing can make you unregistered unless it deletes your KEY file. There aren't "registered" and "unregistered" versions!

even M$ delivers FS with your (unregistered) program!

Really? Where? :shock: :o

It is very strange that version 4.53 or 4.533 is crashing the system and version 4.20 is doing what it should do, flying.

Yes, but it is specific to your system, so we need to delve a lot deeper to find out why. There is certainly nothing at all in FSUIPC which cares or depends on day or night. The changes between day and night affect textures and video load, so it has simply got to be a timing issue where a small difference in milliseconds through an FSUIPC path, or a small difference in memory usage, is edging a situation which was close to failure onto failure.

Really, whenever there has been any problem like this, in the whole history of FS, it has been a tweak here and a tweak there which fixes it. Unfortunately there are no texture or video tweaks in FSUIPC because FSUIPC has nothing to do with either, so it means looking at video drivers, video settings, scenery settings and so forth.

Sorry, but there's really no other way.

Regards

Pete