evanet Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I've been a big fan and almost exclusive pilot of the Level-D B767 for about a year and a half now, and love the plane. I've also had ActiveSky Advanced installed since it came out, and for months enjoyed flying the 767 with ASA's direct wind control. Issues with FSX's default wind, including unrealistic 100+ knot wind shear, rapid changes in speed, and S-Turns were a thing of the past, and I was quite happy with my setup. Recently I joined a virtual airline that was on the VAFS network and for that I needed to install the unreigstered version of FSUIPC which I did without issue. The VA I belong to (Boston Virtual ATC's Cape Air Virtual) flies only twin Cessnas, so for a little while (less than a month) I hadn't flown the 767 with FSUIPC installed. With FSUIPC still installed (but VAFS not running) and running ASA as well, I noticed some major changes with the weather (specifically upper wind) when I did return to the 767. Suddenly it seemed like the default weather was back. While things weren't quite as bad as the pre-ASA days, I noticed dramatically shifting wind speed (the wind indicator would jump very rapidly by 2-3 knots, rarely indicating a consistent wind speed), and unrealistic, excessive turbulence re-appeared, to the point where the 767 would be doing S-Turns for the entire flight. The only configuration change was the installation of FSUIPC. Despite trying various options within FSUIPC's dialog ("Weather Settings Off", etc.), I was unable to get back the pre-FSUIPC days. After speaking with Jim (ASA support), I tried uninstalling FSUIPC (by changing the name of FSUIPC4.dll) and things were back to normal -- no more S-Turns, wind shifts, or strange weather (although neither Jim nor I believed that FSUIPC had any impact on weather). So for the past few weeks I've simply been de-activating FSUIPC when I don't need it by changing the name of the file back and forth as necessary. As an administrator of Boston Virtual ATC, I've spoken with a number of members who also fly the Level-D and have noticed similar issues with FSUIPC, although I have not confirmed in any of these cases that uninstalling FSUIPC would solve the problem. Does FSUIPC (the unregistered version) affect upper winds in the way I've described, and is this intentional? If that's the case, I'll happily continue uninstalling/installing FSUIPC as necessary to fly for my VA and fly my beloved 767. However, if there is an issue, please let me know if there's anything I can do to help troubleshoot. I understand FSUIPC is one of the most widely used pieces of software in conjunction with FSX and a ton of add-on aircraft, and hope that, if other people are experiencing this issue, we can find a resolution. Thanks, Evan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 I noticed dramatically shifting wind speed (the wind indicator would jump very rapidly by 2-3 knots, rarely indicating a consistent wind speed), and unrealistic, excessive turbulence re-appeared, to the point where the 767 would be doing S-Turns for the entire flight. The only configuration change was the installation of FSUIPC. Despite trying various options within FSUIPC's dialog ("Weather Settings Off", etc.), I was unable to get back the pre-FSUIPC days. FSUIPC does no weather control at all. ASA uses either SimConnect directly, or FSUIPC, depending how you set it up. But there is nothing FSUIPC, by default, does with weather. Does FSUIPC (the unregistered version) affect upper winds in the way I've described, and is this intentional? No: if unregistered it does nothing at all except obey commands from programs which interface to it. If registered there are options to do things like smooth wind changes (which works quite well, despite the bugs in FSX weather). But unless you register it is merely an interface program, a window into FS for other programs, modules, and gauges, nothing more. If you are getting different behaviour with and without an unregistered FSUIPC installed then you have something interfacing to it and using it. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanet Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 That's what I thought -- that FSUIPC would have no impact. And yet, whenever FSUIPC is ENABLED, I get the strange behaviour with constant wind variation, and whenever FSUIPC is DISABLED, this behaviour goes away. What do you think could be interfacing to FSUIPC to make this happen (I know that's something of a crazy question given its scope)? I just installed a clean copy today and am seeing the same behaviour (I also notice the same behaviour in different aircraft, including Captain Sim's B757 which seems to require FSUIPC). According to Jim from HiFi Simulations, FSUIPC is not supposed to have any effect on ActiveSky Advanced or the weather, yet it's not just in my own setup that I've seen this issue. By the way, I've tried uninstalling Acceleration and am seeing the same error (without Acceleration and a new plane)... so that's not the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 That's what I thought -- that FSUIPC would have no impact. And yet, whenever FSUIPC is ENABLED, I get the strange behaviour with constant wind variation, and whenever FSUIPC is DISABLED, this behaviour goes away. What do you think could be interfacing to FSUIPC to make this happen (I know that's something of a crazy question given its scope)? No idea, sorry. But something is. Uninstall one add-on at a time till you find the culprit. Didn't you say you were flying on-line? Are you sure you've switched the on-line weather control off? You most certainly don't want both. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanet Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Do you know of any way to check whether add-ons (or any) might be interfacing through FSUIPC? The only add-ons I run with FSX are ASA, FSUIPC (sometimes), and then the Level-D B767 and Captain Sim 757. All my flights are on multiplayer, and I do not believe there's a way to turn off or affect any of the online weather settings. By default, ASA appears to override any default FSX weather (even if it's real-world weather with updates) and do its own thing (that is, unless FSUIPC is enabled). Do you know if FSUIPC might be preventing ASA from overriding the default weather? It almost looks like, at times, the game is trying to decide whether to use weather from one source or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Do you know of any way to check whether add-ons (or any) might be interfacing through FSUIPC? Not these days, not since i removed checking on what was allowed to connect. You could enable IPC write and maybe Weather Logging in the FSUIPC options and see when commands are being seen and processed. The only add-ons I run with FSX are ASA, FSUIPC (sometimes), and then the Level-D B767 and Captain Sim 757. Well ASA doesn't by default (it uses SimConnect unless it is told to interface to FS9 and sees FSUIPC.DLL in the Modules folder), but I think the others may do. However not for weather, no doubt. But what about the on-line interface? All my flights are on multiplayer, and I do not believe there's a way to turn off or affect any of the online weather settings. Multiplayer supplies the other aircraft you can see , but I didn't think it did everything. I'd check with your on-line flight program support if I were you. Or at least eliminate it as a possibility by flying off-line to check. By default, ASA appears to override any default FSX weather (even if it's real-world weather with updates) and do its own thing (that is, unless FSUIPC is enabled). Anything setting weather in FS will override anyone else setting weather in FS. That's a good way of getting conflicts. Nothing can "own" the weather. Do you know if FSUIPC might be preventing ASA from overriding the default weather? If ASA is interfacing via SimConnect, as it does by default, FSUIPC has no control over it, but neither can ASA exert any control over anything else trying to set the weather, whether via FSUIPC or directly via SimConnect. It almost looks like, at times, the game is trying to decide whether to use weather from one source or another. Then your on-line connection is the most likely suspect. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanet Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Pete, I probably should have mentioned this earlier... I'm using FSX, and the standard multiplayer that comes with it to connect directly to a server (no GameSpy). I'm not using any third-part multiplayer connection software, just the default FSX. I've seen the same issues offline and online with the same settings for weather (that is, real-world weather with 15 minute updates in FSX and running ASA on top of that). Based on what I've read through ASA, I don't believe that the settings you make in FSX's weather options will make a difference to what ASA outputs. You could enable IPC write and maybe Weather Logging in the FSUIPC options and see when commands are being seen and processed. I haven't used FSUIPC much... so would I simply go to the "Logging" tab, check the boxes for "Weather", "IPC Reads", "IPC Writes", and then... what? Where does that info go, and what other options should I choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 I probably should have mentioned this earlier... I'm using FSX, and the standard multiplayer that comes with it to connect directly to a server (no GameSpy). I'm not using any third-part multiplayer connection software, just the default FSX. Oh, not VATSIM or IVAP? sorry, then I've no idea for sure. I've seen the same issues offline and online with the same settings for weather (that is, real-world weather with 15 minute updates in FSX and running ASA on top of that). Based on what I've read through ASA, I don't believe that the settings you make in FSX's weather options will make a difference to what ASA outputs. Of course they don't, unless you keep going into FSX's weather menus and changing things. Then it depends how often ASA sets the weather afresh to undo what you've done. You could enable IPC write and maybe Weather Logging in the FSUIPC options and see when commands are being seen and processed. I haven't used FSUIPC much... so would I simply go to the "Logging" tab, check the boxes for "Weather", "IPC Reads", "IPC Writes", and then... what? Where does that info go, and what other options should I choose? Not IPC reads -- why would you be interested in that? Only the two I mentioned. And everything being logged goes into the Log file, which is ALWAYS produced and sits in the Modules folder along with everything else for FSUIPC. There is a chapter about the Logging tab in the User Guide. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanet Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Oh, not VATSIM or IVAP? sorry, then I've no idea for sure. No, just the standard multiplayer interface in FSX. You could enable IPC write and maybe Weather Logging in the FSUIPC options and see when commands are being seen and processed. I took a look through the user guide and located the log. I get a few interesting lines: Wind smoothing fix is fully installed 1888 Weather Mode now = Global 50825 Weather Mode now = Real World 260506 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled And then a whole lot of this: 7459438 WRITE0 0924, 2 bytes: A8 2D .- 7459438 WRITE0 0BB6, 2 bytes: 59 14 Y. 7459500 WRITE0 088C, 2 bytes: A8 2D .- 7459500 WRITE0 0924, 2 bytes: A8 2D .- 7459500 WRITE0 0BB6, 2 bytes: 59 14 Y. 7459562 WRITE0 088C, 2 bytes: A8 2D .- 7459562 WRITE0 0924, 2 bytes: A8 2D .- 7459562 WRITE0 0BB6, 2 bytes: 59 14 Y. 7459625 WRITE0 088C, 2 bytes: A8 2D .- 7459625 WRITE0 0924, 2 bytes: A8 2D .- 7459625 WRITE0 0BB6, 2 bytes: 59 14 Y. ... and a few of these: 8110492 WRITE0 0BC0, 2 bytes: AF 12 .. 8110523 WRITE0 0BB6, 2 bytes: ED 10 .. 8110523 WRITE0 0BC0, 2 bytes: A4 12 .. 8110617 Weather Read request (Global set) to area 1: ICAO="GLOB", Req=0 8110617 Weather Read request (Nr Station) to area 8: Lat=37.25, Lon=-80.02, Alt=0.0, Req=1 8110617 Weather Received (type 1 request, AtStation): "GLOB&A0 131615Z 252118KT&D457LG 252118KT&A914NM 252118KT&A1829MG 252118KT&A2743SG 252118KT&A3658NG 252118KT&A5486NG 252118KT&A7315LG 252118KT&A9144NG 252118KT&A10363NG 252118KT&A11887NG 252118KT&A13411NG 252118KT&A14935NG 100KM&B-1500&D29500 0ST000&ST001FLMN000N 15/12 Q1013 @@@ 30 15 252 118 | 60 15 252 118 | 90 15 252 118 | 120 15 252 118 | 180 15 252 118 | 240 15 252 118 | 300 15 252 118 | 340 15 252 118 | 390 15 252 118 | 440 15 252 118 | 490 15 252 118 | " 8110617 WX Received in 0 mSecs, WX request type 1, ICAO=GLOB 8110617 Weather Received (type 5 request, Nearest): "KROA&A355 131654Z 256134KT&D457NM 256134KT&A552NM 256134KT&A554NM 256134KT&A559LM 256134KT&A1467LG 256134KT&A1469LG 256134KT&A1474MG 256134KT&A2381NG 256134KT&A2383NG 256134KT&A2388NG 256134KT&A3296NG 256134KT&A3298NG 256134KT&A3303LG 256134KT&A5124LG 256134KT&A5126LG 256134KT&A5131MG 256134KT&A6953NG 256134KT&A6955NG 256134KT&A6960NG 256134KT&A8782NG 256134KT&A8784NG 256134KT&A8789LG 256134KT&A10001NG 256134KT&A10003NG 256134KT&A10008NG 256134KT&A11525NG 256134KT&A11527NG 256134KT&A11532NG 256134KT&A13049NG 256134KT&A13051NG 256134KT&A13056NG 256134KT&A14573NG 256134KT&A14575NG 256134KT&A14580NG 100KM&B-1855&D29500 0CU000&CU001FMMN000N 15/12 09/06&A554 09/06&A559 03/00&A1469 03/00&A1474 -2/-5&A2383 -2/-5&A2388 -8/-11&A3298 -8/-11&A3303 -20/-23&A5126 -20/-23&A5131 -32/-35&A6955 -32/-35&A6960 -44/-47&A8784 -44/-47&A8789 -52/-55&A10003 -52/-55&A10008 -56/-59&A11527 -56/-59&A11532 -56/-59&A13051 -56/-59&A13056 -56/-59&A14575 -56/-59&A14580 Q1013 @@@ 30 9 256 134 | 30 9 256 134 | 30 9 256 134 | 60 3 256 134 | 60 3 256 134 | 60 3 256 134 | 90 -2 256 134 | 90 -2 256 134 | 90 -2 256 134 | 120 -8 256 134 | 120 -8 256 134 | 120 -8 256 134 | 180 -20 256 134 | 180 -20 256 134 | 180 -20 256 134 | 240 -32 256 134 | 240 -32 256 134 | 240 -32 256 134 | 300 -44 256 134 | 300 -44 256 134 | 300 -44 256 134 | 340 -52 256 134 | 340 -52 256 134 | 340 -52 256 134 | 390 -56 256 134 | 390 -56 256 134 | 390 -56 256 134 | 440 -56 256 134 | 440 -56 256 134 | 440 -56 256 134 | 490 -56 256 134 | 490 -56 256 134 | 490 -56 256 134 | " 8110617 WX Received in 0 mSecs, WX request type 8, Lat=37.2493, Lon=-80.0239, Alt=0.0m 8110617 **** METAR errors: length=1528, spurious layers removed: Wind 22, Temp 11 8110617 WRITE0 0BB6, 2 bytes: 97 13 .. 8110617 WRITE0 0BC0, 2 bytes: 98 12 .. 8110648 WRITE0 0BB6, 2 bytes: 65 16 e. 8110648 WRITE0 0BC0, 2 bytes: 8B 12 .. The second part really doesn't mean a whole lot to me, but the first part seems a little less cryptic. What is the wind smoothing fix and advanced weather interface? Since you said FSUIPC doesn't do anything with weather, I assume that's something to do with ASA or the default weather? I know you don't need to help here, but I really do appreciate the effort. Thanks Pete! Evan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Wind smoothing fix is fully installed 1888 Weather Mode now = Global 50825 Weather Mode now = Real World 260506 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled The wind smoothing won't be activated since your FSUIPC isn't registered. The Weather modes entries merely records settings made by ASA -- though I find it odd that it is setting Global first THEN "real world". I suspect that second setting is actually being made by a Flight being loaded. Since you've edited the log we can't see it here -- but maybe you have a flight saved with FSX real weather mode set, and that is loading AFTER ASA has initialised and so destroying its "Global" mode setting? That may well explain the conflicts -- though not why having FSUIPC present or not changes it, unless it is merely a matter of timing. I'm surprised you are using ASA's Global weather mode -- that makes all the world's weather the same, everywhere, and ASA then tries to change it as you fly. I use it's normal options which would be logged as "Custom Weather" And then a whole lot of this: 7459438 WRITE0 0924, 2 bytes: A8 2D .- 7459438 WRITE0 0BB6, 2 bytes: 59 14 Y. 7459500 WRITE0 088C, 2 bytes: A8 2D .- 7459500 WRITE0 0924, 2 bytes: A8 2D .- 7459500 WRITE0 0BB6, 2 bytes: 59 14 Y. 7459562 WRITE0 088C, 2 bytes: A8 2D .- 7459562 WRITE0 0924, 2 bytes: A8 2D .- 7459562 WRITE0 0BB6, 2 bytes: 59 14 Y. 7459625 WRITE0 088C, 2 bytes: A8 2D .- 7459625 WRITE0 0924, 2 bytes: A8 2D .- 7459625 WRITE0 0BB6, 2 bytes: 59 14 Y. The 0924s and 088Cs are throttle settings being written. 0BB6 is the Aileron input to FSX. ... and a few of these: 8110492 WRITE0 0BC0, 2 bytes: AF 12 .. 8110523 WRITE0 0BB6, 2 bytes: ED 10 .. 8110523 WRITE0 0BC0, 2 bytes: A4 12 ..0BC0 is the elevator trim input. 8110617 Weather Read request (Global set) to area 1: ICAO="GLOB", Req=0 8110617 Weather Read request (Nr Station) to area 8: Lat=37.25, Lon=-80.02, Alt=0.0, Req=1 8110617 Weather Received (type 1 request, AtStation): "GLOB&A0 131615Z 252118KT&D457LG 252118KT&A914NM 252118KT&A1829MG 252118KT&A2743SG 252118KT&A3658NG 252118KT&A5486NG 252118KT&A7315LG 252118KT&A9144NG 252118KT&A10363NG 252118KT&A11887NG 252118KT&A13411NG 252118KT&A14935NG 100KM&B-1500&D29500 0ST000&ST001FLMN000N 15/12 Q1013 @@@ 30 15 252 118 | 60 15 252 118 | 90 15 252 118 | 120 15 252 118 | 180 15 252 118 | 240 15 252 118 | 300 15 252 118 | 340 15 252 118 | 390 15 252 118 | 440 15 252 118 | 490 15 252 118 | " 8110617 WX Received in 0 mSecs, WX request type 1, ICAO=GLOB 8110617 Weather Received (type 5 request, Nearest): "KROA&A355 131654Z 256134KT&D457NM 256134KT&A552NM 256134KT&A554NM 256134KT&A559LM 256134KT&A1467LG 256134KT&A1469LG 256134KT&A1474MG 256134KT&A2381NG 256134KT&A2383NG 256134KT&A2388NG 256134KT&A3296NG 256134KT&A3298NG 256134KT&A3303LG 256134KT&A5124LG 256134KT&A5126LG 256134KT&A5131MG 256134KT&A6953NG 256134KT&A6955NG 256134KT&A6960NG 256134KT&A8782NG 256134KT&A8784NG 256134KT&A8789LG 256134KT&A10001NG 256134KT&A10003NG 256134KT&A10008NG 256134KT&A11525NG 256134KT&A11527NG 256134KT&A11532NG 256134KT&A13049NG 256134KT&A13051NG 256134KT&A13056NG 256134KT&A14573NG 256134KT&A14575NG 256134KT&A14580NG 100KM&B-1855&D29500 0CU000&CU001FMMN000N 15/12 09/06&A554 09/06&A559 03/00&A1469 03/00&A1474 -2/-5&A2383 -2/-5&A2388 -8/-11&A3298 -8/-11&A3303 -20/-23&A5126 -20/-23&A5131 -32/-35&A6955 -32/-35&A6960 -44/-47&A8784 -44/-47&A8789 -52/-55&A10003 -52/-55&A10008 -56/-59&A11527 -56/-59&A11532 -56/-59&A13051 -56/-59&A13056 -56/-59&A14575 -56/-59&A14580 Q1013 @@@ 30 9 256 134 | 30 9 256 134 | 30 9 256 134 | 60 3 256 134 | 60 3 256 134 | 60 3 256 134 | 90 -2 256 134 | 90 -2 256 134 | 90 -2 256 134 | 120 -8 256 134 | 120 -8 256 134 | 120 -8 256 134 | 180 -20 256 134 | 180 -20 256 134 | 180 -20 256 134 | 240 -32 256 134 | 240 -32 256 134 | 240 -32 256 134 | 300 -44 256 134 | 300 -44 256 134 | 300 -44 256 134 | 340 -52 256 134 | 340 -52 256 134 | 340 -52 256 134 | 390 -56 256 134 | 390 -56 256 134 | 390 -56 256 134 | 440 -56 256 134 | 440 -56 256 134 | 440 -56 256 134 | 490 -56 256 134 | 490 -56 256 134 | 490 -56 256 134 | " 8110617 WX Received in 0 mSecs, WX request type 8, Lat=37.2493, Lon=-80.0239, Alt=0.0m 8110617 **** METAR errors: length=1528, spurious layers removed: Wind 22, Temp 11 All that is merely FSUIPC regularly reading the weather so it can populate weather data for applications which might want to read it.The second part really doesn't mean a whole lot to me, but the first part seems a little less cryptic. What is the wind smoothing fix and advanced weather interface? Since you said FSUIPC doesn't do anything with weather, I assume that's something to do with ASA or the default weather?To me, it looks like ASA's Global Weather mode is being lost, resetting FSX to downloading weather. Thereafter you'll get conflicts as ASA tries to update weather. Try first NOT running ASA, and then try starting it later, after everything has loaded and ready to fly.RegardsPete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanet Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Since you've edited the log we can't see it here -- but maybe you have a flight saved with FSX real weather mode set, and that is loading AFTER ASA has initialised and so destroying its "Global" mode setting? Ok, here's the rest of the beginning of the log file (not edited, except I shortened a few of the paths): ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.53 by Pete Dowson ********* Reading options from "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" User Name="" User Addr="" FSUIPC4 not user registered WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired Running inside FSX on Windows Vista (using SimConnect Acc/SP2 Oct07) Module base=61000000 Wind smoothing fix is fully installed DebugStatus=0 31 System time = 13/12/2009 09:51:23 78 FLT UNC path = \Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\" 78 FS UNC path = "\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\" 453 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 453 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 1357 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 1357 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 1357 FSUIPC Menu entry added 1373 \Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM.FLT 1373 \Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\Aircreation_582SL\Aircreation_582SL.AIR 1888 Weather Mode now = Global 50825 Weather Mode now = Real World 114380 \Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\CS_B757-200\cs757-200.AIR 190150 System time = 13/12/2009 09:54:33, Simulator time = 06:52:34 (11:52Z) 259929 Weather Mode now = Global 260506 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 289881 **** No SimConnect events or states being received! Re-connecting now**** 289881 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 289881 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61472.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0) 289881 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 289881 FSUIPC Menu entry added I'm surprised you are using ASA's Global weather mode -- that makes all the world's weather the same, everywhere, and ASA then tries to change it as you fly. I use it's normal options which would be logged as "Custom Weather" I didn't know there was a difference, and/or how you can make that change. Is it somewhere in ASA's options? To me, it looks like ASA's Global Weather mode is being lost, resetting FSX to downloading weather. Thereafter you'll get conflicts as ASA tries to update weather. Try first NOT running ASA, and then try starting it later, after everything has loaded and ready to fly. Good idea, I'll try this same flight but will wait until everything is up and running to start ASA. Evan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 1888 Weather Mode now = Global 50825 Weather Mode now = Real World 114380 \Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\CS_B757-200\cs757-200.AIR 190150 System time = 13/12/2009 09:54:33, Simulator time = 06:52:34 (11:52Z) 259929 Weather Mode now = Global Now you've not removed it, i see there's another Global weather mode setting later one (about 4 minutes later. Is that perhaps how long ASA takes to finish its initial setting up?). So maybe my earlier theory doesn't apply. Maybe you should search the log for other "weather Mode now" references, though? I didn't know there was a difference, and/or how you can make that change. Is it somewhere in ASA's options? Yes, and i thought it was off unless you turned it on (I think it's part of "Direct Wind Control" or DWC, and also related to one of the visibility options or cloud options. There are explanations in the program. I'll try this same flight but will wait until everything is up and running to start ASA. Yes. And try with FSX weather instead, as part of a process of elimination. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanet Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Now you've not removed it, i see there's another Global weather mode setting later one (about 4 minutes later. Is that perhaps how long ASA takes to finish its initial setting up?). So maybe my earlier theory doesn't apply. Maybe you should search the log for other "weather Mode now" references, though? That's what I thought as well. Beyond those three references, there are no other "Weather Mode now" references/changes. Yes. And try with FSX weather instead, as part of a process of elimination. Will do... but that may take a few more minutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanet Posted December 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 To me, it looks like ASA's Global Weather mode is being lost, resetting FSX to downloading weather. Thereafter you'll get conflicts as ASA tries to update weather. Try first NOT running ASA, and then try starting it later, after everything has loaded and ready to fly. Gave it a try -- same result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dowson Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 To me, it looks like ASA's Global Weather mode is being lost, resetting FSX to downloading weather. Thereafter you'll get conflicts as ASA tries to update weather. Try first NOT running ASA, and then try starting it later, after everything has loaded and ready to fly. Gave it a try -- same result. Sorry, I'm lost then. Seems there's something odd going on in the aircraft in their use of FSUIPC. Regards Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanet Posted December 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Ok, Pete, thanks for your help. I'll continue doing what I'm doing -- installing and de-installing FSUIPC each time I want to fly. Evan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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