Gjcame Posted March 12, 2014 Report Posted March 12, 2014 Hi Peter, I know this topic has been mentioned before but despite following those instructions I can not get an acceptance saved. Occasionally I select the yes box to the warning and get as far as what appears to be acceptance of the module - to the point where I can fly for that session using the program, however when I go back the next time the same routine applies except for the fact that saying yes to the warning FSX freezes to the point that I have to cancel my FS session. I have been through this so many times now that I want to give up as so many things depend on the module working such as reverse thrust, gauges and many of the Orbix features. I have been using FSUIPC modules for many years and never had anything like this before. I run the install again and get the message that it was loaded into FSX again only for it to hang up as before. Among the things I have tried include going back to an fsx.cfg that I know was working only to get back to the same routine again. FSX is now probably very confused and I could not bear to go through another reinstall I am using the 4.929 module, Windows 7 with updates and FSX with all of its updates. I have tried to copy my FSUIPC files but have not had any success If you could possibly help or point me in the right direction that would be great. I am a paraplegic with limited use of my hands and FS gives me a lot of joy usually. Thank you in advance Regards Graeme
Pete Dowson Posted March 12, 2014 Report Posted March 12, 2014 I know this topic has been mentioned before but despite following those instructions I can not get an acceptance saved. Occasionally I select the yes box to the warning and get as far as what appears to be acceptance of the module - to the point where I can fly for that session using the program, however when I go back the next time the same routine applies except for the fact that saying yes to the warning FSX freezes to the point that I have to cancel my FS session. I have been through this so many times now that I want to give up as so many things depend on the module working such as reverse thrust, gauges and many of the Orbix features. I have been using FSUIPC modules for many years and never had anything like this before. I run the install again and get the message that it was loaded into FSX again only for it to hang up as before. Among the things I have tried include going back to an fsx.cfg that I know was working only to get back to the same routine again. FSX is now probably very confused and I could not bear to go through another reinstall I am using the 4.929 module, Windows 7 with updates and FSX with all of its updates. I have tried to copy my FSUIPC files but have not had any success If you could possibly help or point me in the right direction that would be great. I am a paraplegic with limited use of my hands and FS gives me a lot of joy usually. I do wish I could actually reproduce this sort of problem, because it has never occurred here on any of 4 systems. And I run all sorts of add-ons, a different selection on each PC. I can only think that there's some bad interaction between two or more of the add-ons you have loading via DLL.XML or EXE.XML. The only things I can think of trying are: 1) re-ordering the loading of things in DLL.XML 2) more drastically, removing everything else except FSUIPC4 from the DLL.XML, and loading any EXEs separately, later, instead of via EXE.XML. 3) trying the FSUIPC4_Loader to change the timings 4) Using the Initdelay parameter in FSUIPC's INI file. to delay its Simconnect interaction. When you get the loading failure is the a part of an FSUIPC log file produced at all? If so it would be a good idea to show it to me so I can see where it got to. If not, then the problem certainly lies in SimConnect's loading sequences. Pete
Gjcame Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Posted March 17, 2014 Hi Peter, Thank you for your reply. As best I could I tried the things you mentioned including a number of add-on deletions. However the same old routine occurs. I will endeavour to attach a couple of log files but unfortunately no success. I tried both options but they say I can't upload this type of file One thought I had was to see if I could apply a Registry Cleaner or one of the CC Cleaner type things and see if I can't get rid of some junk files. I would appreciate your thought on this and advise me as to how I can send you a copy of the log files. Thank, Graeme
Pete Dowson Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 I will endeavour to attach a couple of log files but unfortunately no success. I tried both options but they say I can't upload this type of file They are just text, so just paste them into a message. Note that if FSUIPC is actually generating a run-time log file (FSUIPC4.LOG), then it IS getting loaded and is running. You said: As best I could I tried the things you mentioned including a number of add-on deletions. However the same old routine occurs. which I don't fully understand. What is "the same old routine"? I recall you saying: FSX freezes to the point that I have to cancel my FS session. How do you "cancel" it? What exactly is this "freeze"? A hang, or just a slow-down? And when, exactly, does it occur? For instqance, this suggestion of mne: 4) Using the Initdelay parameter in FSUIPC's INI file. to delay its Simconnect interaction should certainly have changed the timing of events. Pete
Gjcame Posted April 15, 2014 Author Report Posted April 15, 2014 Dear Peter, Sorry for taking so long to get back to you with the results of my endeavours, unfortunately a few health issues got in the way. The bottom line is that I can finally report success. These are what I tried: added FSUIPC4_Loader.dll into FSX - on its own no solution. I then started on the InitDelay=1 using various times and at first used 2 and got an initial acceptance however the next time I opened FSX no go again, freeze up. I then used random ones like 15,20, 60, 5 etc., and can now say with confidence that for me, 5 is the magic no. Copy of files below for your info. This was the only way I could include them. Thank you for all of your help and patience Regards Graeme FSUIPC4.ini [General]UpdatedByVersion=4929History=JZE3DYBTSJOWZYXTJJCX3MouseWheelMove=NoMouseWheelTrim=NoMouseWheelTrimSpeed=1JoystickTimeout=20PollGFTQ6=YesBlankDisplays=NoFixControlAccel=NoFixMachSpeedBug=NoDeleteVehiclesForAES=YesAutoScanDevices=YesVisibilityOptions=NoOneCloudLayer=NoCloudTurbulence=NoCloudIcing=NoGenerateCirrus=NoSuppressCloudTurbulence=NoMaxIce=-4MinIce=-4UpperWindGusts=NoSuppressWindTurbulence=NoSuppressWindVariance=NoWindTurbulence=NoTurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40SuppressAllGusts=NoMaxSurfaceWind=0WindLimitLevel=200WindDiscardLevel=400WindAjustAltitude=NoWindAjustAltitudeBy=2000SmoothBySimTime=NoWindSmoothing=NoWindSmoothness=2WindSmoothAirborneOnly=YesPressureSmoothness=0TemperatureSmoothness=0DisconnTrimForAP=NoZeroElevForAPAlt=NoThrottleSyncAll=NoWhiteMessages=NoShowPMcontrols=NoSpoilerIncrement=512MagicBattery=NoRudderSpikeRemoval=YesElevatorSpikeRemoval=YesAileronSpikeRemoval=YesReversedElevatorTrim=NoClockSync=NoClockSyncMins=5ClearWeatherDynamics=NoOwnWeatherChanges=NoTimeForSelect=4LoadFlightMenu=YesLoadPlanMenu=NoPauseAfterCrash=YesBrakeReleaseThreshold=75SaveDataWithFlights=YesZapSound=fireworkShortAircraftNameOk=NoUseProfiles=YesEnableMouseLook=NoAxesWrongRange=NoTCASid=FlightTCASrange=40AxisCalibration=NoDirectAxesToCalibs=NoShowMultilineWindow=YesSuppressSingleline=NoSuppressMultilineFS=NoAxisIntercepts=NoDontResetAxes=NoGetNearestAirports=YesWeatherReadFactor=2WeatherRewriteSeconds=1CustomWeatherModify=NoSimConnectStallTime=1LuaRerunDelay=66Console=NoInitDelayDevicesToo=YesUseMidMouseBtn=YesInitDelay=5OOMcheck=YesUseSystemTime=NoNewInterceptTextMenu=NoDelayedMouseLookZoom=NoFSVersionUsed="Microsoft Flight Simulator X",10.0.61472.0SimConnectUsed=10.0.61259.0 [JoyNames]AutoAssignLetters=No0.GUID={9B0D6310-0B06-11E0-8004-444553540000}2.GUID={9B0D6310-0B06-11E0-8006-444553540000}3.GUID={9B0D6310-0B06-11E0-8007-444553540000}0=CH PRO PEDALS USB 2=CH THROTTLE QUADRANT3=CH FLIGHT SIM YOKE USB 1=CH FLIGHTSTICK PRO1.GUID={9B0D6310-0B06-11E0-8005-444553540000} [buttons]ButtonRepeat=20,10 [AutoSave]Next=9Interval=60Files=10SaveOnGround=YesAutoSaveEnabled=Yes1=Mon 2200062=Mon 2201053=Mon 2202054=Mon 2203045=Mon 2204046=Mon 2205047=Mon 2206038=Mon 2207039=Mon 21580710=Mon 215906 [GPSout]GPSoutEnabled=NoPort=COM0Speed=4800Interval=2000PosTo6Decimal=NoSentences=SimModeIndicator=No [GPSout2]GPSoutEnabled=NoPort=<none set>Speed=4800Interval=2000PosTo6Decimal=NoSentences=SimModeIndicator=No [WideServer]WideFSenabled=Yes [sounds]Path=D:\FSX\Sound\Device1=Primary Sound DriverDevice2=Realtek HD Audio 2nd output (Realtek High Definition Audio)Device3=Realtek Digital Output(Optical) (Realtek High Definition Audio)Device4=Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)Device5=Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio) [JoystickCalibration]AllowSuppressForPFCquad=YesExcludeThrottleSet=YesExcludeMixtureSet=YesExcludePropPitchSet=YesSepRevsJetsOnly=NoApplyHeloTrim=NoUseAxisControlsForNRZ=NoFlapsSetControl=0FlapDetents=NoReverserControl=66292Reverser1Control=66422Reverser2Control=66425Reverser3Control=66428Reverser4Control=66431MaxThrottleForReverser=256AileronTrimControl=66731RudderTrimControl=66732CowlFlaps1Control=66162CowlFlaps2Control=66163CowlFlaps3Control=66164CowlFlaps4Control=66165SteeringTillerControl=0MaxSteerSpeed=60Throttle1=-16256,-11225,-10709,14732Throttle3=0,0,512,16380Throttle2=-16256,-11741,-11612,13843 FSUIPC4 Install.log Installer for FSUIPC4.DLL version 4.929 Looking in registry for FSX install path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator\10.0 Parameter"SetupPath"... >>> OK! FOUND FSX! <<< ...Looking in registry for ESP install path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Microsoft ESP\1.0 Parameter"SetupPath"Not there, so looking in: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ESP Parameter"AppPath"... NOT found! ...Looking in registry for Prepar3D install path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\LockheedMartin\Prepar3D Parameter"SetupPath"Not there, so looking in: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Prepar3D Parameter"AppPath"... NOT found! ...Looking in registry for Prepar3D v2 install path: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2 Parameter"SetupPath"Not there, so looking in: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Prepar3D v2 Parameter"AppPath"... NOT found! ...=========================================================== INSTALLATION FOR FSX:SetupPath="D:\FSX\"Checking version of the FSX EXE:... Version 10.0.61472.0 (Need at least 10.0.60905.0)Checking compatibility with installed SimConnect: Found SimConnect build 60905 (Original) Found SimConnect build 61242 (SP1 May07) Found SimConnect build 61259 (Acc/SP2 Oct07)Checking if there's already a version of FSUIPC4 installed in: D:\FSX\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL... Version 4.929 found.FSX Modules folder already exists.Okay -- installed FSUIPC4 into "D:\FSX\Modules\FSUIPC4.DLL"Looking for the current user's Application Data path:... found as "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\AppData\Roaming"Now finding \Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG for all users, including this oneLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\.classicsonline\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\AppData\Roaming"Found FSX.CFG in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\FSX.CFG"Now checking DLL.XML ...... There is a previous DLL.XML, checking for FSUIPC4 section.... FSUIPC4_Loader section already exists but will be replaced. (with FSUIPC4_Loader entry)... FSUIPC4 section of DLL.XML written okayNow checking for a SimConnect.XML file ...... There is a SimConnect.XML, checking for "local" section.... "local" section already exists, file not modified.Looking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\Application Data\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\Cookies\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\Desktop\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\Documents\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\FSX Map\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\Local Settings\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\Music\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\My Documents\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\NetHood\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\Pictures\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\PrintHood\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\Recent\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\SendTo\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\Start Menu\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\temp\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\Templates\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG thereLooking in "C:\Users\Graeme Cameron\Virtual Machines\Roaming" ... No FSX.CFG there"Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder already exists.Now installing additional files into the "Modules\FSUIPC Documents" folder: Installed "FSUIPC4 User Guide.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC4 for Advanced Users.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC4 History.pdf" okay Installed "List of FSX and P3D controls.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC Lua Library.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC Lua Plug-Ins.pdf" okay Installed "Lua License.pdf" okay Installed "Lua Plugins for VRInsight Devices.pdf" okay Installed "LuaFileSystem.pdf" okay Installed "Example LUA plugins.zip" okay Installed "Offset Mapping for PMDG 737NGX.pdf" okay Installed "FSUIPC4 Offsets Status.pdf" okay=========================================================== All installer tasks completed.Registration check for FSUIPC4 was successful! (result code 00) *************** End of Install Log ***************
Pete Dowson Posted April 15, 2014 Report Posted April 15, 2014 The bottom line is that I can finally report success. Good news! Thanks for getting back. These are what I tried: added FSUIPC4_Loader.dll into FSX - on its own no solution. I then started on the InitDelay=1 using various times and at first used 2 and got an initial acceptance however the next time I opened FSX no go again, freeze up. I then used random ones like 15,20, 60, 5 etc., and can now say with confidence that for me, 5 is the magic no. Hmm. There must be some odd interaction with other things accessing SimConnect. Very strange. But glad there was a work-around. Regards Pete
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