P3dv3 cannot set "Throttle per engine"

[panselmo]

Hello!

 

Thanks for P3d v3 support first of all! I got problems to set my Saitek Pro Flight Yoke system. When I try to set the throttle quadrant as usual, checkbox  "Map to 4 throttles" then heading to (page 3/11)  set throttles per engine and when I press "set" button and try to calibrate the throttle quadrant the values ain't  moving. I'm not sure that the problem is in FSUIPC, but without FSUIPC the throttles were moving. Anyway I got two P3d installations currently (P3d v2.5 and P3d v3)  win7 x64.

 

Thank You.

[Pete Dowson]

Thanks for P3d v3 support first of all! I got problems to set my Saitek Pro Flight Yoke system. When I try to set the throttle quadrant as usual, checkbox  "Map to 4 throttles" then heading to (page 3/11)  set throttles per engine and when I press "set" button and try to calibrate the throttle quadrant the values ain't  moving. I'm not sure that the problem is in FSUIPC, but without FSUIPC the throttles were moving. Anyway I got two P3d installations currently (P3d v2.5 and P3d v3)  win7 x64.

 

How are you assigning the throttle? If you have the throttle quadrant then surely you have more than one? Is the throttle assigned in FS or FSUIPC and what to? Before you select "Map to 4 throttles" did you check that it responded there? No point mapping something that isn't being sen or isn't even assigned!

 

Pete

[panselmo]

I've made a clean install of P3d v3, and with the latest FSUIPC, happened the same situation. I got only one throttle quadrant, and yes before I select "Map to 4 throttles" the throttle works well in sim. After I checked it, then went to page 3, I tried to set the 3 positions of the throttle (pressing RESET), at this point there's no answer from the quadrant, and position values aint't changes. So there's no solution yet. Please help!

 

Thank you:Ferenc

[Pete Dowson]

I've made a clean install of P3d v3, and with the latest FSUIPC, happened the same situation. I got only one throttle quadrant,

 

All the throttle quadrants I've seen have at least 4 levers, and some have 6, yet you only use one lever for throttle? Is that what you are saying?

 

 and yes before I select "Map to 4 throttles" the throttle works well in sim.

 

 

I'm not sure why you state this. Please refer back to my questions, because there's no more information now than before. Look, I asked (now separating the questions so perhaps you can see them better?):

 

1. How are you assigning the throttle?

2. If you have the throttle quadrant then surely you have more than one?

3. Is the throttle assigned in FS or FSUIPC and

4. what to?

5. Before you select "Map to 4 throttles" did you check that it responded there?

(No point mapping something that isn't being sen or isn't even assigned!)

 

You aren't answering any of the essential questions I asked but instead supply other information which isn't relevant or doesn't help at all. Sorry. Please read the questions. when I know what you are doing I might be able to help!

 

Pete

[Pete Dowson]

Having received no clear answers to my questions, I've made some assumptions about what you folks actually mean in your vague reports.

 

I've found that L-M have made a substantial change to the way they handle joysticks in P3Dv3, and this currently prevents actual calibration of axes in FSUIPC if they are assigned in P3D.

 

This does not affect calibrations already made in a previous version and copied over, nor does it affect assignments made in FSUIPC. 

 

I have asked L-M abnout this, but it may turn out to be a permanent change.

 

Please see the Pinned "IMPORTANT" topic at the top of this Forum. I'll post further details there, as and when ...

 

Pete

[panselmo]

Excuse me Pete to react other topic before I answered your questions but I realized that I'm not the only one who struggling with this issue,and I thought that will help to solve it, so here are my answers:

 

1.I wasn't assigned the throttle under P3d , that automatically assigned as follows:

throttle  --> Z axis

mixture --> Ry axis

prop     -->Rx axis

-under FSUIPC I just only tried to assign throttle (Z axis) on page 3/11

 

2 I got only one throttle quadrant what came with my Saitek Pro flight yoke system (3 levers, 6 buttons)

 

3 the throttle assigned to P3d automatically and only the throttle  in FSUIPC as I mentioned in step 1.

 

4. it assigned to Throttle axis on page 3/11  (separate throttles per engine) only for Throttle 1.

 

5. Before I selected "Map to 4 Throttles" it responded under P3d, but nothing under FSUIPC

 

 

I hope this helps , and in the meantime I've checked your statement about P3d v3 control changes at important topic.

 

Thanks for support!

 

Regards: Ferenc

[Pete Dowson]

1.I wasn't assigned the throttle under P3d , that automatically assigned as follows:

throttle  --> Z axis

mixture --> Ry axis

prop     -->Rx axis

-under FSUIPC I just only tried to assign throttle (Z axis) on page 3/11

 

There is NO page 3 of 11 on the Assignments Tab. You are taslking about Calibration, NOT assignment!

 

2 I got only one throttle quadrant what came with my Saitek Pro flight yoke system (3 levers, 6 buttons)

 

 

Yes, one quadrant THREE levers. So you can assign up to THREE throttles. I was only asking why you were only using ONE. I never asked or suggested multiple QUADRANTS!!!

 

3  the throttle assigned to P3d automatically and only the throttle  in FSUIPC as I mentioned in step 1.  

4. it assigned to Throttle axis on page 3/11  (separate throttles per engine) only for Throttle 1.

 

 

Oh dear. You are talking about CALIBRATION, NOT assignment!

 

5. Before I selected "Map to 4 Throttles" it responded under P3d, but nothing under FSUIPC

 

 

I was asking if it responded IN FSUIPC, before you selected that option. you never answered.

 

Please see again the IMPORTANT pinned topic in this Forum. At present you CANNOT calibrate in FSUIPC unless you ASSIGN n FSUIPC, which you have not done. Please read things much more carefully! You misunderstood every question.

 

Pete

[panselmo]

Should 4.947c update fixes the issue on joystick calibration, as you mentioned on whatsnew section ?

 

"-- The "c" interim updates fixes a potential problem with the new Joystick Scanning"

 

Because I tried that and the issue is still here for me.

[Pete Dowson]

Should 4.947c update fixes the issue on joystick calibration, as you mentioned on whatsnew section ?

 

"-- The "c" interim updates fixes a potential problem with the new Joystick Scanning"

 

No, the problem with calibrating joysticks in FSUIPC which are assigned in P3Dv3 is that FSUIPC cannot read those values whilst in the calibration dialogue. Once calibrated they would work, but you can't actually set the calibration values. The business of reading joystick values whilst in a Modal Dialogue needs solving by Lockheed-Martin -- it is a broken SimConnect facility.

 

The joystick scanning is simply the initialisation sequence in FSUIPC where it checks to make sure it has a numerical joystick ID for each joystick attached. If not it tries to assign one. This was purely to get around the many occasions folks have found FSUIPC not seeing a newly connected joystick because, especially in Win8 and Win10, the installers don't seem to be setting that value these days.

 

The only outward sign that the joystick scan has been done is the list of devices found in the Log, near the start.

 

Pete