ccy777 Posted October 29, 2016 Report Posted October 29, 2016 I found that sometimes the wind smoothing feature causing problem when landing: The wind sometimes kept unchanged when descending from 3000 ft to the ground level. It would be grateful if you can fix the problem soon. The software used: FSX-steam editon Windows 10 Home No other weather software is installed
Pete Dowson Posted October 29, 2016 Report Posted October 29, 2016 1 hour ago, ccy777 said: I found that sometimes the wind smoothing feature causing problem when landing: The wind sometimes kept unchanged when descending from 3000 ft to the ground level. It would be grateful if you can fix the problem soon. The software used: FSX-steam editon Windows 10 Home No other weather software is installed Sorry, I cannot reproduce any similar problem. Also, FSUIPC is never checking the altitude, so the altitude part isn't really relevant. Possibly when you are nearing the airport something is getting overloaded and preventing some of the SimConnect actions being requested. Check the Log to see if any problems are reported. Quite honestly, I cannot change any code related to weather at this stage. It's been the way it is now for 10 years and I'm likely to do more harm than good making any changes at all in this area. Pete
ccy777 Posted October 30, 2016 Author Report Posted October 30, 2016 Here is the FSUIPC log file: Quote ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.957b (26th September 2016) by Pete Dowson ********* Windows version reported as 6.2.?.9200 fsx.exe version = 10.0.62615.0 Reading options from "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" Running inside FSX Steam Edition on Windows 8.0 or later Module base=55BE0000 User Name="*******" User Addr="********" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired 46 System time = 29/10/2016 19:41:01 46 FLT path = "C:\Users\Billy\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\" 62 ------ Module Version Check ------ 62 acontain.dll: 10.0.62615.0 62 api.dll: 10.0.62615.0 62 controls.dll: 10.0.62615.0 78 fs-traffic.dll: 10.0.62615.0 78 G3D.dll: 10.0.62615.0 78 language.dll: 10.0.62615.0 93 sim1.dll: 10.0.62615.0 93 visualfx.dll: 10.0.62615.0 93 weather.dll: 10.0.62615.0 109 window.dll: 10.0.62615.0 109 ---------------------------------- 140 Trying to connect to SimConnect Steam ... 187 FS path = "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\" 343 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan ----------------------- 343 Product= Saitek X52 Flight Control System 343 Manufacturer= Saitek 343 Vendor=06A3, Product=075C (Version 1.16) 343 Serial Number= Saitek 343 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 390 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 406 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 406 ------ Setting the hooks and direct calls into the simulator ------ 406 --- CONTROLS timer memory location obtained ok 406 --- SIM1 Frictions access gained 406 --- FS Controls Table located ok 406 --- Installed Mouse Macro hooks ok. 406 --- Wind smoothing fix is fully installed 406 --- SimConnect intercept for texts and menus option is off 406 --- All links checked okay 406 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 406 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 406 Trying to use SimConnect Steam 406 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 4156 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.62615.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.62615.0) 4156 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 4156 FSUIPC Menu entry added 4187 c:\users\billy\documents\flight simulator x files\TEst.FLT 4187 D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\POSKY Boeing 777-200 FSX\Boeing 777-200-PW4074.air 11046 Weather Mode now = Theme 23250 C:\Users\Billy\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Chiang Kai Shek Intl to Hong Kong Intl.PLN 23250 Weather Mode now = Custom 23250 c:\users\billy\documents\flight simulator x files\temp.FLT 71609 Aircraft="Boeing 777-200-PW4074 Project Opensky Japan Airlines OC" 71625 System time = 29/10/2016 19:42:13, Simulator time = 15:55:02 (07:55Z) 74781 Starting everything now ... 92359 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 3708296 **** Restarting traffic scanning due to non-reception **** 6622546 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 6548 secs = 21.8 fps 6622546 Max AI traffic was 115 aircraft 6672625 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 29 secs = 8.3 fps 6672625 Max AI traffic was 115 aircraft 6684781 C:\Users\Billy\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Chiang Kai Shek Intl to Hong Kong Intl.PLN 6684781 C:\Users\Billy\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\Previous flight.FLT 6703421 C:\Users\Billy\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Chiang Kai Shek Intl to Hong Kong Intl.PLN
ccy777 Posted October 30, 2016 Author Report Posted October 30, 2016 The FSUIPC when the the wind smooth feature operate normally. Quote ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.957b (26th September 2016) by Pete Dowson ********* Windows version reported as 6.2.?.9200 fsx.exe version = 10.0.62615.0 Reading options from "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" Running inside FSX Steam Edition on Windows 8.0 or later Module base=55610000 User Name="****" User Addr="******" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired 47 System time = 30/10/2016 10:12:11 47 FLT path = "C:\Users\Billy\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\" 63 ------ Module Version Check ------ 63 acontain.dll: 10.0.62615.0 78 api.dll: 10.0.62615.0 78 controls.dll: 10.0.62615.0 78 fs-traffic.dll: 10.0.62615.0 78 G3D.dll: 10.0.62615.0 94 language.dll: 10.0.62615.0 94 sim1.dll: 10.0.62615.0 94 visualfx.dll: 10.0.62615.0 109 weather.dll: 10.0.62615.0 109 window.dll: 10.0.62615.0 109 ---------------------------------- 547 Trying to connect to SimConnect Steam ... 609 FS path = "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\" 766 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan ----------------------- 766 Product= Saitek X52 Flight Control System 766 Manufacturer= Saitek 766 Vendor=06A3, Product=075C (Version 1.16) 766 Serial Number= Saitek 766 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 813 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 828 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 828 ------ Setting the hooks and direct calls into the simulator ------ 828 --- CONTROLS timer memory location obtained ok 828 --- SIM1 Frictions access gained 828 --- FS Controls Table located ok 828 --- Installed Mouse Macro hooks ok. 828 --- Wind smoothing fix is fully installed 828 --- SimConnect intercept for texts and menus option is off 828 --- All links checked okay 828 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 828 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 828 Trying to use SimConnect Steam 828 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 6125 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.62615.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.62615.0) 6125 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 6125 FSUIPC Menu entry added 6156 c:\users\billy\documents\flight simulator x files\TEst.FLT 6156 D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\POSKY Boeing 777-200 FSX\Boeing 777-200-PW4074.air 13922 Weather Mode now = Theme 22109 Weather Mode now = Real World 83969 Weather Mode now = Custom 127750 C:\Users\Billy\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Hong Kong Intl to Chiang Kai Shek Intl.PLN 149906 System time = 30/10/2016 10:14:41, Simulator time = 07:55:00 (00:55Z) 149922 Aircraft="Boeing 777-200-PW4074 Project Opensky JAS Rainbow Seven YU JA007D" 218156 Starting everything now ... 218984 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 7393313 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 7178 secs = 20.6 fps 7393313 Max AI traffic was 117 aircraft 7402125 C:\Users\Billy\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Hong Kong Intl to Chiang Kai Shek Intl.PLN 7402125 C:\Users\Billy\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\Previous flight.FLT 7414875 System time = 30/10/2016 12:15:46, Simulator time = 10:54:19 (02:54Z) 7414875 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Minimum frame rate was 6.5 fps, Maximum was 30.0 fps Minimum available memory recorded was 1647Mb Average frame rate for running time of 7179 secs = 20.6 fps Maximum AI traffic for session was 117 aircraft Memory managed: 6458 Allocs, 6458 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed ***********
Pete Dowson Posted October 30, 2016 Report Posted October 30, 2016 6 hours ago, ccy777 said: Here is the FSUIPC log file: It isn't complete! What happened, did FS hang? I always need to see the complete log -- there's important and relevant information in the summaries at the end, after close down. And here's evidence of very poor performance here: 3708296 **** Restarting traffic scanning due to non-reception **** and here: 6672625 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 29 secs = 8.3 fps Your second log, which was complete shows no symptom of poor performance. Pete
ccy777 Posted October 30, 2016 Author Report Posted October 30, 2016 For the first log, I have copied everything. And the FS did not hang.
ccy777 Posted October 30, 2016 Author Report Posted October 30, 2016 4 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: It isn't complete! What happened, did FS hang? I always need to see the complete log -- there's important and relevant information in the summaries at the end, after close down. After viewing the Windows 10 log, I found that the following 2 errors occur: Quote System - Provider [ Name] Application Error - EventID 1000 [ Qualifiers] 0 Level 2 Task 100 Keywords 0x80000000000000 - TimeCreated [ SystemTime] 2016-10-29T13:32:48.341314400Z EventRecordID 9344 Channel Application Computer FUJITSU-LAPTOP Security - EventData fsx.exe 10.0.62615.0 559f9a9a MSVCR80.dll 8.0.50727.9268 573d297f c000000d 00008aa0 f5c 01d231d94a3b93ca D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\fsx.exe C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.9268_none_d08e1538442a243e\MSVCR80.dll a11d2be0-5757-4e25-87d3-55b61b37a1c4 Quote System - Provider [ Name] Windows Error Reporting - EventID 1001 [ Qualifiers] 0 Level 4 Task 0 Keywords 0x80000000000000 - TimeCreated [ SystemTime] 2016-10-29T13:32:50.713733700Z EventRecordID 9345 Channel Application Computer FUJITSU-LAPTOP Security - EventData 116195563685 5 BEX Unavailable 0 fsx.exe 10.0.62615.0 559f9a9a MSVCR80.dll 8.0.50727.9268 573d297f 00008aa0 c000000d 00000000 \\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER5D80.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_fsx.exe_94cc41e1ce628b8b12539488a3ca148447b433_a37f3a76_12106427 0 a11d2be0-5757-4e25-87d3-55b61b37a1c4 0 eb6775e99c1a9e55eeb6f44a4bcf4073
Pete Dowson Posted October 30, 2016 Report Posted October 30, 2016 17 minutes ago, ccy777 said: After viewing the Windows 10 log, I found that the following 2 errors occur: Ah, so there was definitely a crash -- they both refer to the same incident. If this happens often I think you will need to try and find which add-on s responsible. The module MSVCR80.DLL is used by FS itself and many other programs, so it could be almost anything -- or it could simply be a memory problem. It is known that some crashes can occur because of memory shortage problems as VAS gets used up. However, looking back at the FSUIPC log, the date matches to that of the recorded crash, but not the time: 11 hours ago, ccy777 said: System time = 29/10/2016 19:41:01 So I think the FSUIPC log does relate to a hang rather than a crash -- which won't be recorded in the Event logs. Pete
ccy777 Posted October 30, 2016 Author Report Posted October 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Pete Dowson said: Ah, so there was definitely a crash -- they both refer to the same incident. If this happens often I think you will need to try and find which add-on s responsible. The module MSVCR80.DLL is used by FS itself and many other programs, so it could be almost anything -- or it could simply be a memory problem. It is known that some crashes can occur because of memory shortage problems as VAS gets used up. However, looking back at the FSUIPC log, the date matches to that of the recorded crash, but not the time: So I think the FSUIPC log does relate to a hang rather than a crash -- which won't be recorded in the Event logs. Pete In the Windows event log, the time is UTC time while in FSUIPC log, the time is local time. The crash of MSVCR80.dll is after the hang of FSUIPC I think the crash of MSVCR80.DLL occurred when I quit FSX.
Pete Dowson Posted October 30, 2016 Report Posted October 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, ccy777 said: The crash of MSVCR80.dll is after the hang of FSUIPC I can assure you it wasnn.t FSUIPC which hung. Pete
ccy777 Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Posted November 5, 2016 Here is another logs show the error. ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.957b (26th September 2016) by Pete Dowson ********* Windows version reported as 6.2.?.9200 fsx.exe version = 10.0.62615.0 Reading options from "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" Running inside FSX Steam Edition on Windows 8.0 or later Module base=535B0000 User Name="*****" User Addr="*****" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired 63 System time = 05/11/2016 10:05:59 63 FLT path = "C:\Users\Billy\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\" 79 ------ Module Version Check ------ 79 acontain.dll: 10.0.62615.0 94 api.dll: 10.0.62615.0 94 controls.dll: 10.0.62615.0 110 fs-traffic.dll: 10.0.62615.0 110 G3D.dll: 10.0.62615.0 110 language.dll: 10.0.62615.0 110 sim1.dll: 10.0.62615.0 125 visualfx.dll: 10.0.62615.0 125 weather.dll: 10.0.62615.0 125 window.dll: 10.0.62615.0 125 ---------------------------------- 563 Trying to connect to SimConnect Steam ... 641 FS path = "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\" 813 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan ----------------------- 813 Product= Saitek X52 Flight Control System 813 Manufacturer= Saitek 813 Vendor=06A3, Product=075C (Version 1.16) 813 Serial Number= Saitek 813 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 875 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 875 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 875 ------ Setting the hooks and direct calls into the simulator ------ 875 --- CONTROLS timer memory location obtained ok 875 --- SIM1 Frictions access gained 891 --- FS Controls Table located ok 891 --- Installed Mouse Macro hooks ok. 891 --- Wind smoothing fix is fully installed 891 --- SimConnect intercept for texts and menus option is off 891 --- All links checked okay 891 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 891 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 891 Trying to use SimConnect Steam 891 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 6938 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.62615.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.62615.0) 6938 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 6938 FSUIPC Menu entry added 6969 c:\users\billy\documents\flight simulator x files\TEst.FLT 6969 D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\POSKY Boeing 777-200 FSX\Boeing 777-200-PW4074.air 16907 Weather Mode now = Theme 27313 Weather Mode now = Real World 277313 Weather Mode now = Custom 357829 C:\Users\Billy\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Hong Kong Intl to Chiang Kai Shek Intl.PLN 487860 Aircraft="Boeing 777-200-PW4074 Project Opensky JAS Rainbow Seven YU JA007D" 487860 System time = 05/11/2016 10:14:07, Simulator time = 07:55:00 (00:55Z) 495829 Starting everything now ... 496500 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 1680047 **** Restarting traffic scanning due to non-reception **** 6877797 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 6386 secs = 22.6 fps 6877797 Max AI traffic was 114 aircraft 7681797 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 801 secs = 12.5 fps 7681797 Max AI traffic was 31 aircraft 7691735 C:\Users\Billy\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files\IFR Hong Kong Intl to Chiang Kai Shek Intl.PLN 7691735 C:\Users\Billy\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\Previous flight.FLT 7704500 System time = 05/11/2016 12:14:24, Simulator time = 10:53:54 (02:53Z) 7704500 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Minimum frame rate was 6.9 fps, Maximum was 30.0 fps Minimum available memory recorded was 1604Mb Average frame rate for running time of 7188 secs = 21.4 fps Maximum AI traffic for session was 114 aircraft Memory managed: 6442 Allocs, 6442 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed ***********
Pete Dowson Posted November 5, 2016 Report Posted November 5, 2016 5 hours ago, ccy777 said: Here is another logs show the error I'n not sure why or where you think it shows your 'error', but what I do see is again signs of SimConnect slowing or stopping: 5 hours ago, ccy777 said: 1680047 **** Restarting traffic scanning due to non-reception **** So again, it's performance. something is clobbering the interface being used between FSUIPC and SimConnect. Please refer back to my ealrier replay with the same diagnosis. Pete
ccy777 Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Pete Dowson said: I'n not sure why or where you think it shows your 'error', but what I do see is again signs of SimConnect slowing or stopping: So again, it's performance. something is clobbering the interface being used between FSUIPC and SimConnect. Please refer back to my ealrier replay with the same diagnosis. Pete It is a good idea to increase the "weather read interval factor"?
Pete Dowson Posted November 5, 2016 Report Posted November 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, ccy777 said: It is a good idea to increase the "weather read interval factor"? I don't think that will make much difference. Sorry I'm not much help here. The code to do wind smoothing in FSUIPC is now very old. I know it is ONLY related to the wind being now set and the wind as it was before. It simply stops the wind being set reaching the Simulation code directly, but allows the change in increments. None of it has anything whatsoever to do with location, altitude, airspeed, or any things else. It is just concerned with those two values -- wind speed and wind direction. If you want to delve deeper into what is happening, you could try enabling Logging of the smoothing actions. You do this by adding TestOptions=x4000 to the [General] section of the INI file before loading FS. I warn you, the log will get large and it might not be easy to work out what is happening. If you do this AND manage to isolate the portion of the log which you think indicates something wrong, then by all means show me that section (only0 and I will help interpret it. But I still won't necessarily be able to help. Really, 99% of the the weather-related facilities in FSUIPC have fallen by the wayside with the advent of much more sophisticated and excellent working systems such as those from Active Sky -- which I can thoroughly recommend. In fact any of the forefront weather programs will do better than anything in FSUIPC, simply because the FSUIPC facilities were a stop-gap, a measure originally taken back in FS2002 when there were lots of Weather problems, continuing on to FS2004. FSX looked better but still had a nasty 180 degree switching of winds in some areas of the world (most notably central western Europe, and near Chicago in the USA, but there were others). This was caused by incorrect triangulation of weather interpolation areas (interpolation is performed in FS from the supposedly nearby weather stations, but sometimes one of the three was many hundreds of miles away with very different weather settings). Anyway, the position now regarding weather features in FSUIPC is that they are pretty much disused in favour of the add-on weather program control, and the code is so old and convoluted I'm not in a position to change it. (EXCEPT perhaps to rip it all out, which I should probably have done a while back). Pete
ccy777 Posted November 6, 2016 Author Report Posted November 6, 2016 I found that the reason may be the language setting in Windows. After I change the language setting from Chinese (Hong Kong) to English (US), the wind smooth function seems works better, but still need more experiment It may be due to the following reason, In Chinese, Korean and Japanese computing, some ASCII special characters cannot be handled correctly because clash between the ASCII and the coding system used in Chinese, Korean or Japanese
Pete Dowson Posted November 6, 2016 Report Posted November 6, 2016 How strange! I don't know how any ASCII characters, special or otherwise come into it. Please keep me informed. Pete
ccy777 Posted November 13, 2016 Author Report Posted November 13, 2016 On 2016/11/6 at 8:33 PM, Pete Dowson said: How strange! I don't know how any ASCII characters, special or otherwise come into it. Please keep me informed. Pete Finally, I found that the reason is not ASCII character issue, is the "supress wind varation" and "supress gust wind" function. If I selected both function, the wihnd smooth function works perfectly. Is it because that I fly into mountain region where the FSX cannot determine the correct surface altitude?
Pete Dowson Posted November 13, 2016 Report Posted November 13, 2016 1 hour ago, ccy777 said: Is it because that I fly into mountain region where the FSX cannot determine the correct surface altitude? It might be that FSX is indeterminate between surface wind and the first upper layer, but really it shouldn't affect the wind smoothing. I suppose it is possible that the wind variation nd gust changes are somehow compensating for or acting against the slow changes which the wind smoother would normally be allowing. Pete
ccy777 Posted March 12, 2017 Author Report Posted March 12, 2017 Recently, I found another interesting problem: Sometimes, there is still sudden wind shift at high altitude when climbing. If I change the WeatherReadFactor and WeatherRewriteSeconds parameters, the wind shift problem also changes. Is it due to the SimConnect problem?
Pete Dowson Posted March 12, 2017 Report Posted March 12, 2017 57 minutes ago, ccy777 said: If I change the WeatherReadFactor and WeatherRewriteSeconds parameters, the wind shift problem also changes. Is it due to the SimConnect problem? Very probably. Really most of the bad wind errors in FS9 and continued in FSX cannot be compensated for with minor fiddles. They need overriding using direct control, which is what Active Sky does so well. Pete
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