Steering Tiller not saving

[kyleh]

I'm having an issue where the steering tiller doesn't work on each flight unless I first go into the FSUIPC, tiller axis calibration tab and click ok.  It then works fine until I restart flight sim. I don't even have to reset the calibration or anything, just go to the correct tab and click ok.

Details:

• FSUIPC 3.999z9 - registered
• WideFS 6.995 (the tiller is connected to the flight sim machine not on the client)
• Windows7
• FS9.1
• LDS767

 

 

[Pete Dowson]

9 hours ago, kyleh said:

I'm having an issue where the steering tiller doesn't work on each flight unless I first go into the FSUIPC, tiller axis calibration tab and click ok.  It then works fine until I restart flight sim. I don't even have to reset the calibration or anything, just go to the correct tab and click ok.

The calibration will be saved in your FSUIPC.INI file. It sounds like you have a corrupted one. Post it into a message here and I'll take a look.

Pete

 

[kyleh]

 

When I go into the calibrate tab, the values I set are still there. It just doesn't work unless I actually open the tab and click ok.

Here's the contents of my .ini.

Quote

[General]
History=U3F0LR4H3DDYIFN4GHAU6
TCASid=Flight
TCASrange=40
TrafficScanPerFrame=10
AxisCalibration=No
CentredDialogue=Yes
ClearWeatherDynamics=Yes
OwnWeatherChanges=No
WeatherReadInterval=4
MoveBGLvariables=Yes
MainMenu=&Modules
SubMenu=&FSUIPC ...
UpdatedByVersion=3999z9b
WindSmoothing=Yes
AutoTaxiWind=Yes
PropTaxiWind=Yes
TimeSetMode=Partial
WhiteMessages=No
ThrottleSyncAll=No
GraduatedVisibility=Yes
LowerVisAltitude=0
UpperVisAltitude=60000
UpperVisibility=6000
GenerateCirrus=Yes
WindShearSharp=No
UpperWindGusts=No
ExtendMetarMaxVis=Yes
CorrectVSsign=Yes
MouseWheelTrim=No
MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1
BrakeReleaseThreshold=75
AxisInterceptIfDirect=No
DontResetAxes=No
DisconnTrimForAP=No
ZeroElevForAPAlt=No
AutoClearWeather=Yes
ExtendTopWind=Yes
WindSmoothness=5
SmoothPressure=Yes
PressureSmoothness=5
SmoothVisibility=Yes
VisibilitySmoothness=2
MaxSurfaceWind=0
WindLimitLevel=200
WindDiscardLevel=400
WindAjustAltitude=No
WindAjustAltitude=No
MinimumVisibility=0
MaximumVisibilityFewClouds=0
MaximumVisibility=0
MaximumVisibility=0
MaximumVisibility=0
OneCloudLayer=No
ThinClouds=No
ThinThunderClouds=No
CloudThinness=1000
CloudThinness=1000
CloudTurbulence=Yes
CloudTurbulence=Yes
CloudIcing=Yes
CloudIcing=Yes
WindTurbulence=Yes
WindTurbulence=Yes
SuppressAllGusts=No
ExternalOptionControl=Yes
AutoTuneADF=No
KeepFS98CloudCover=No
ShowPMcontrols=No
MagicBattery=No
RudderSpikeRemoval=No
ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No
AileronSpikeRemoval=No
ReversedElevatorTrim=No
StopAutoFuel=No
TrapUserInterrupt=Yes
NavFreq50KHz=No
ClockSync=No
SmoothIAS=Yes
SetVisUpperAlt=No
VisUpperAltLimit=6000
MaxIce=4
MaxIce=3
MinIce=-1
WindSmoothing=Yes
WindSmoothAirborneOnly=No
LimitWindVariance=No
VisSmoothingDelay=0
VisSmoothAirborneOnly=No
TrafficControlDirect=Yes
CloudTurbulence=Yes
CloudTurbulence=Yes
WindTurbulence=Yes
WindTurbulence=Yes
SpoilerIncrement=512
JoystickTimeout=20
PollGFTQ6=Yes
BlankDisplays=No
ZapSound=firework
ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring
UseProfiles=Yes
AxesWrongRange=No
ShowMultilineWindow=Yes
SuppressSingleline=Yes
SuppressMultilineFS=No
FixWindows=No
FixControlAccel=No
TimeForSelect=4
WeatherReadsFast=No
LuaRerunDelay=66
WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000
MaximumVisibilityOvercast=0
MaximumVisibilityRainy=0
ThunderCloudThinness=10000
WindSmoothingDelay=0
SuppressCloudTurbulence=No
SuppressWindTurbulence=No

[JoyNames]
AutoAssignLetters=No
1=CH FLIGHT SIM YOKE USB
1.GUID={60EB9430-C3D9-11E6-8003-444553540000}
0=CH PRO PEDALS USB
0.GUID={0CF919B0-C3D9-11E6-8001-444553540000}
2=FDS-FC1
2.GUID={0B4733A0-C6FD-11E6-8001-444553540000}

[JoystickCalibration]
AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes
ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes
ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes
ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes
SepRevsJetsOnly=No
ApplyHeloTrim=No
UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No
FlapsSetControl=0
FlapDetents=No
ReverserControl=66292
Reverser1Control=66422
Reverser2Control=66425
Reverser3Control=66428
Reverser4Control=66431
MaxThrottleForReverser=256
AileronTrimControl=0
RudderTrimControl=0
CowlFlaps1Control=0
CowlFlaps2Control=0
CowlFlaps3Control=0
CowlFlaps4Control=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
Spoilers=-11854,-7003,-512,16160
Reverser1=-14624,5622/16
Reverser2=-13056,7324/16
SteeringTiller=-16127,512,1824,16288

[Sounds]
Path=F:\FS9\Sound\
Device1=Primary Sound Driver
Device2=Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Device3=Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Device4=Realtek Digital Output(Optical) (Realtek High Definition Audio)

[Buttons]
ButtonRepeat=20,10
2=R1,3,CM1:5,0
3=R1,6,CM1:1,0
4=R1,7,CM1:2,0
5=R1,5,CM1:4,0
6=R1,4,CM1:3,0
7=R1,2,CM1:6,0
8=P1,1,K90,10
9=P0,4,K90,11
10=P0,5,K71,11
11=P0,7,C65752,0
12=P0,18,C65698,0
13=R0,21,CM1:9,0
14=R0,27,CM1:10,0
15=P0,30,C65698,3000
16=P0,12,C65698,6000
17=P0,24,C65698,9000
18=P0,0,C65698,11000
19=P0,6,C65698,15000
20=P0,31,C65698,25000
21=P2,7,C65752,0
22=P2,4,K90,11
23=P2,5,K71,11
24=P2,18,C65698,0
25=P2,30,C65698,3000
26=P2,12,C65698,6000
27=P2,24,C65698,9000
28=P2,0,C65698,11000
29=P2,6,C65698,15000
30=P2,31,C65698,25000
31=P2,3,CM1:11,0
32=P1,0,C1006,1
33=U1,0,C1006,2
34=P2,1,C1006,1
35=U2,1,C1006,2

[MacroFiles]
1=767

[Axes]
0=0Z,256,D,3,0,0,0
1=0U,256,D,41,0,0,0
2=0V,256,D,36,0,0,0
3=2X,256,D,42,0,0,0
4=2Y,256,D,22,0,0,0
5=2Z,256,D,10,0,0,0
6=2R,256,D,9,0,0,0
7=2U,256,D,41,0,0,0
8=2V,256,D,36,0,0,0

[Window.Radar Contact]
Docked=3222, 8994, 3540, 2934
Undocked=4281, 591, 231, 163

 

Edited January 12, 2017 by kyleh

[Pete Dowson]

23 minutes ago, kyleh said:

When I go into the calibrate tab, the values I set are still there. It just doesn't work unless I actually open the tab and click ok

I see you have no Rudder calibration. Oddly, too, you have some main controls not even assigned in FSUIPC even though you do have others. Are you by any chance using FS for assignment as well as FSUIPC. That will definitely cause problems. You should choose one or the other.

The steering tiller in FSUIPC uses the rudder control and there is a cross-relationship with that assignment and calibration. I can't reproduce your problem here with FSX (I abandoned FS9 completely some years ago), but I think calibrating the rudder would help. You also need "auto-rudder" disabled in FS.

Your axis assignments in FSUIPC are:

[Axes]
0=0Z,256,D,3,0,0,0  RUDDER
1=0U,256,D,41,0,0,0 REVERSER1
2=0V,256,D,36,0,0,0 STEERING TILLER
3=2X,256,D,42,0,0,0 REVERSER2
4=2Y,256,D,22,0,0,0 SPOILERS
5=2Z,256,D,10,0,0,0 THROTTLE2
6=2R,256,D,9,0,0,0 THROTTLE1
7=2U,256,D,41,0,0,0 Another REVERSER1 (?)
8=2V,256,D,36,0,0,0 Another STEERING TILLER (?)

Three comments about all that. First, I assume the duplication of two of the controls is deliberate, though having two REVERSER1s and only one REVERSER2 seems odd.

Secondly you have no assignments for the main Yoke (elevator and ailerons) controls, which strongly suggests assignments to these in FS -- mixing assignment places is a really bad idea. (Or do you fly by keyboard?)

Thirdly, when you assign "Direct to FSUIPC Calibration", you ARE supposed to calibrate. There's a good chance they will sometimes be unusable otherwise. Your calibrations are only for these axes:

Spoilers=-11854,-7003,-512,16160
Reverser1=-14624,5622/16
Reverser2=-13056,7324/16
SteeringTiller=-16127,512,1824,16288

The throttles and rudder are assigned "direct to calibration", but not calibrated!

Pete

 

[kyleh]

I do not know why there are duplicates for the reversers1. I did everything through the GUI, I didn't edit the .ini and I don't think I assigned another axis but you never know.

I'll try calibrating everything again as you suggested tonight and see if that fixes it. I had this setup on my old system with WinXP, and never had the ailerons and elevators handled by FSUIPC.  I probably did have the throttles and rudder calibrated though.

 

Thanks Pete

Edited January 12, 2017 by kyleh

[kyleh]

Ok Studying the file a bit more. I see that it looks like my CH rudder pedals are joystick 0.

I'm assuming that means these axis were somehow assigned to the rudder pedals?

1=0U,256,D,41,0,0,0 REVERSER1
2=0V,256,D,36,0,0,0 STEERING TILLER

I don't know how that would happen as with only 3 axis, shouldn't it only have values X,Y, & Z available?

Maybe my clicking ok in the calibration tab resets the 'focus' for these 2 axis back to the proper FDS-FC1 controller.

 

[Pete Dowson]

1 hour ago, kyleh said:

I do not know why there are duplicates for the reversers1. I did everything through the GUI, I didn't edit the .ini and I don't think I assigned another axis but you never know.

I'll try calibrating everything again as you suggested tonight and see if that fixes it. I had this setup on my old system with WinXP

The controller ID nubers can change, and usually do, when you change systems, or unpug things and plug them in differently, or even change your version of Windows. Probably part of the duplication is from your old configuration.

1 hour ago, kyleh said:

Ok Studying the file a bit more. I see that it looks like my CH rudder pedals are joystick 0.

I'm assuming that means these axis were somehow assigned to the rudder pedals?

Yes -- a change in the joystick IDs.  FSUIPC has a facility which uses Letters instead of the IDs and can then automatically track them -- there's a chapter about it in the User Guide. always enable that unless you only have one controller or never unplug them, change PCs or operating systems.

Pete

 

[kyleh]

Quote

1=0U,256,D,41,0,0,0 REVERSER1
2=0V,256,D,36,0,0,0 STEERING TILLER

I was able to fix it by removing the above two lines from the .ini file. It worked fine after that.

I calibrated all the axis afterwards as per your recommendation just to be safe.

 

Just to be clear, this was a new install on a new pc. I didn't copy over any files from my old system.

[Pete Dowson]

4 hours ago, kyleh said:

Just to be clear, this was a new install on a new pc. I didn't copy over any files from my old system.

Well, at some time, on that system, you unplugged the devices and reconnected them, OR you updated Windows.

Best to use the Joystick lettering option to be sure in the future.

Pete