bassgeo Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) Hello Peter, can you please check my FSUIPC4.LOG file? Regards, Panos FSUIPC4.7z Edited April 6, 2017 by bassgeo
Pete Dowson Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 52 minutes ago, bassgeo said: Hello Peter, can you please check my FSUIPC4.LOG file? Please, in future, at least state why you are attaching a file. It would be much better to just paste the contents into your message. I don't like just downloading files for the sake of it. It looks like you are running some program interfacing to FSUIPC and writing to offsets reserved for WideClient running a Lua plug-in using the display library to get a display on the FS screen. If bad data is written to these it is quite possible to generate Access Violations, in this case probably in the depths of the display code in the Sim or its system DLL. It is to avoid crashing the Sim altogether in such cases that FSUIPC traps such crashes in the first place, logging them instead. So, as with any reports or questions about FSUIPC or problems, more information is obviously needed. What programs are you running? Are you using WideFS? What plug-ins are you using, both in FSUIPC and the WideClients? Please always provide at least basic information. Pete
bassgeo Posted April 6, 2017 Author Report Posted April 6, 2017 Hi Peter, Sorry for the attached file, didn't think you would mind. I'm using WideFS with "VAS_Monitor WideFS.lua" and "VAS_Monitor.lua". Here is my WideClient-w10.ini: [Config] ServerIPAddr=192.168.0.40 ;ServerName=PANOSWIN10 Protocol=TCP ;Protocol=UDP Port=8002 Window=290,573,128,64 Visible=Yes ButtonScanInterval=20 ClassInstance=0 NetworkTiming=5,1 MailslotTiming=2000,1000 PollInterval=2000 Port2=9002 ResponseTime=18 ApplicationDelay=0 TCPcoalesce=No WaitForNewData=500 MaxSendQ=100 OnMaxSendQ=Log NewSendScanTime=50 Priority=3,1,2 ReconnectMinutes=0 ; ----------------------------------------------- [User] ButtonScreen=No Log=Errors+ [ButtonScreen] Size=4,5 0=T"Pause" 1=T"Slew" 2=B"Clear\rWeather" 3=B"Toggle\rTraffic" 4=B"Refresh\rScenery" 5=Ba"ESCape" 6=Bt"Cursor\rUp" 7=Ba"Home" 8=B"Reload\rAircraft" 9=Bl"Cursor\rLeft" 10=B"Stop/Clr\r(Num 5)" 11=Br"Cursor\rRight" 12=B"Restart\rFlight" 13=Ba"ALT\r(to get to\rFS menus)" 14=Bb"Cursor\rDown" 15=Ba"End" 16=B"Return" 17=B"Space\rBar" ; =============================================== [Sounds] Path=c:\WideFsX\Sound\ Device1=Primary Sound Driver ;Device2=SB Live! Wave Device ; =============================================== ;[GPSout] ;Port=COM6 ;Speed=9600 [ExtWindow] VAS Monitor=[0,100,523,100] WX Radar: Range 60nm, Tilt 0.0, Opts: Nml Pch Uni=[87,391,600,300] WX Radar: Range 0nm, Tilt 0.0, Opts: Nml Pch Uni=[726,755,600,300] WX Radar=[607,615,600,300] Here is my WideClient-w10.log: ********* WideClient Log [version 6.999z2] Class=FS98MAIN ********* Date (dmy): 05/04/17, Time 23:11:41.484: Client name is PIII500 401 Attempting to connect now 401 Trying TCP/IP addr 192.168.0.40, port 8002 ... 401 LUA: "C:\WideFsX\Initial.LUA": not found 411 Connection made okay! 2674386 Timed out response: connection assumed lost! 2674386 Ready to try connection again 2674436 Timed out response: connection assumed lost! 2675397 Attempting to connect now 2675397 Trying TCP/IP addr 192.168.0.40, port 8002 ... 2675397 Connection made okay! 2675427 Received shutdown offset code = ADBC 2675427 FS closing down (param=ADBC), disconnecting 2675427 ********* Interim performance summary ********* 2675427 Total time connected so far = 2675 seconds 2675427 Reception maximum so far: 29 frames/sec, 1512 bytes/sec 2675427 Reception average whilst connected so far: 23 frames/sec, 1238 bytes/sec 2675427 Transmission maximum so far: 5 frames/sec, 381 bytes/sec 2675427 Transmission average whilst connected so far: 4 frames/sec, 293 bytes/sec 2675427 Max receive buffer = 344, Max send depth = 4, Send frames lost = 0 2675427 *********************************************** 2675507 Received shutdown offset code = ADBC 2682247 Connection closed by server! 2682247 Attempting to connect now 2703187 Error on client pre-Connection Select() [Error=10060] Connection timed out 2703187 Ready to try connection again 2704219 Attempting to connect now 2748232 Trying TCP/IP addr 192.168.0.40, port 8002 ... 2793106 ****** End of session performance summary ****** 2793106 Total time connected = 2675 seconds 2793106 Reception maximum: 29 frames/sec, 1512 bytes/sec 2793106 Reception average whilst connected: 23 frames/sec, 1238 bytes/sec 2793106 Transmission maximum: 5 frames/sec, 381 bytes/sec 2793106 Transmission average whilst connected: 4 frames/sec, 293 bytes/sec 2793106 Max receive buffer = 344, Max send depth = 4, Send frames lost = 0 2793106 ********* Log file closed (Buffers: MaxUsed 5, Alloc 165867 Freed 165867 Refused 0) ********* And my FSUIPC4.INI [General] UpdatedByVersion=4964f History=ZHFJNR5X8DOSU5GYZOH25 InitDelayDevicesToo=No Annotate=Yes NewInterceptTextMenu=No UseSystemTime=No UseMidMouseBtn=Yes MouseWheelMove=No MouseWheelTrim=No MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1 JoystickTimeout=20 PollGFTQ6=Yes BlankDisplays=No FixControlAccel=No FixMachSpeedBug=No NewDeleteVehiclesForAES=No AutoScanDevices=Yes AssignJoystickIDs=Yes VisibilityOptions=No OneCloudLayer=No CloudTurbulence=No CloudIcing=No GenerateCirrus=No SuppressCloudTurbulence=No MaxIce=-4 MinIce=-4 UpperWindGusts=No SuppressWindTurbulence=No SuppressWindVariance=No WindTurbulence=No TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0 TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40 SuppressAllGusts=No MaxSurfaceWind=0 WindLimitLevel=200 WindDiscardLevel=400 WindAjustAltitude=No WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000 SmoothBySimTime=No WindSmoothing=No WindSmoothness=2 WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes PressureSmoothness=0 TemperatureSmoothness=0 DisconnTrimForAP=No ZeroElevForAPAlt=No ThrottleSyncAll=No WhiteMessages=No ShowPMcontrols=No SpoilerIncrement=512 MagicBattery=No RudderSpikeRemoval=No ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No AileronSpikeRemoval=No ReversedElevatorTrim=No ClockSync=No ClockSyncMins=5 ClearWeatherDynamics=No OwnWeatherChanges=No TimeForSelect=4 LoadFlightMenu=No LoadPlanMenu=No PauseAfterCrash=No BrakeReleaseThreshold=75 SaveDataWithFlights=No ZapSound=firework ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring UseProfiles=Yes EnableMouseLook=No DelayedMouseLookZoom=No WideLuaGlobals=Yes AxesWrongRange=No TCASid=Flight TCASrange=40 AxisCalibration=No DirectAxesToCalibs=No ShowMultilineWindow=Yes SuppressSingleline=No SuppressMultilineFS=No AxisIntercepts=No DontResetAxes=No ThreadAffinityMask=x0 LuaAffinityMask=x0 InitDelay=0 GetNearestAirports=Yes LogOptionProtect=Yes OOMcheck=Yes OOMcheckInterval=10 TimeForLuaClosing=2 WeatherReadFactor=2 WeatherRewriteSeconds=1 CustomWeatherModify=No SimConnectStallTime=10 InitialStallTime=10 NormalStallTime=1 LuaRerunDelay=66 Console=No FSVersionUsed="Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v3",3.4.22.19868 SimConnectUsed=3.4.0.0 [Traffic Limiter] AirportPreference=50 PlannedAirportsPreference=50 GroundPreference=50 NearerPreference=50 TargetFrameRate=0 TrafficLimit=0 [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=No [Axes] PollInterval=10 RangeRepeatRate=10 [Buttons] PollInterval=25 ButtonRepeat=20,10 [AutoSave] Next=1 Interval=60 Files=10 SaveOnGround=No AutoSaveEnabled=No [GPSout] GPSoutEnabled=Yes Port=COM1 Speed=9600 Interval=500 PosTo6Decimal=Yes SimModeIndicator=No Sentences=RMA,RMC,GGA [GPSout2] GPSoutEnabled=No Port=<none set> Speed=4800 Interval=500 PosTo6Decimal=No SimModeIndicator=No Sentences= [WideServer] WideFSenabled=Yes AdvertiseService=1 Port=8002 Port2=9002 [Sounds] Path=C:\Prepar3D v3\Sound\ Device1=Primary Sound Driver Device2=Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio) Device3=Line 1/2 (M-Audio Delta 66) Device4=Multichannel (M-Audio Delta 66) Device5=S/PDIF (M-Audio Delta 66) Device6=Line 3/4 (M-Audio Delta 66) Device7=Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio) [ClientNames] 1=PIII500 Thank you in advance for your time, Panos
Pete Dowson Posted April 6, 2017 Report Posted April 6, 2017 3 hours ago, bassgeo said: I'm using WideFS with "VAS_Monitor WideFS.lua" and "VAS_Monitor.lua". For the same displays on both the Client and main FS screen? Why both on WideFS? For the latter it would be much more efficient to run VAS Monitor on the FS PC. It's late here, but I'll check this tomorrow. Do you get any of the VAS Monitor display on the P3D screen? I know there's a delay between this 694328 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled and the first error: 1579063 ***ERROR C0000005 at 58257656 ExWriteStateData(Offset=9BFC, Size=4) That's nearly 90 seconds. Is that all WideClient start up time, before it is running the Lia plug-ins? Perhaps you could enable ipc Write logging in FSUIPC's logging tab. That will show me exactly what it received up to the crash. Pete
bassgeo Posted April 7, 2017 Author Report Posted April 7, 2017 9 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: For the same displays on both the Client and main FS screen? = Only on my networked Client PC Why both on WideFS? = I remove the "VAS_Monitor.lua" = But the errors are always there! For the latter it would be much more efficient to run VAS Monitor on the FS PC.= I will add this string in FSUIPC4.ini: [Monitor] Monitor0=0,024C,4,0 It's late here, but I'll check this tomorrow. Do you get any of the VAS Monitor display on the P3D screen?= No. 694328 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled and the first error: 1579063 ***ERROR C0000005 at 58257656 ExWriteStateData(Offset=9BFC, Size=4) That's nearly 90 seconds. Is that all WideClient start up time, before it is running the Lia plug-ins?= No delay...a few seconds only. Perhaps you could enable ipc Write logging in FSUIPC's logging tab. That will show me exactly what it received up to the crash.= I will do!
Pete Dowson Posted April 7, 2017 Report Posted April 7, 2017 9 minutes ago, bassgeo said: I remove the "VAS_Monitor.lua" = But the errors are always there! Hmm. That's odd. Something else is writing those entries then, from a WideFS client. We'll need to do a process of elimination on whatever is running on the clients (though it could equally be something on the main sim PC -- those offsets are supposed to be for WideClient only, but anything can write there -- weith possibly the results you are getting, because they instigate calls into the sims inner code to get a display on screen). I need the log with the ipcWrites enabled please, at least the first parts where it starts happening, until it repeats. In order to get that log option going when FSUIPC starts, you'll need to enable it then restart the sim. 15 minutes ago, bassgeo said: No delay...a few seconds only. 1579063 (the first error) - 694328 (when the sim is ready) = 884735 which is 88.4735 seconds. I think about 20-30 seconds of that will be WideServer starting up. Pete
bassgeo Posted April 7, 2017 Author Report Posted April 7, 2017 Here i am again! ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.964f (13th March 2017) by Pete Dowson ********* Windows 10 Enterprise 64 Bit reported as Build 14393, Release ID: 1607 (OS 10.0) Prepar3D.exe version = 3.4.22.19868 Reading options from "C:\Prepar3D v3\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" Running inside Prepar3D v3 on Windows 10 Module base=537F0000 User Name="" User Addr="" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WideFS7 Key is provided 0 System time = 07/04/2017 12:57:16 15 FLT UNC path = "\\WIN10\P3D_PLN\" 15 ------ Module Version Check ------ 15 acontain.dll: 3.4.22.19868 15 api.dll: 3.4.22.19868 15 controls.dll: 3.4.22.19868 15 fs-traffic.dll: 3.4.22.19868 78 G3D.dll: 3.4.22.19868 78 language.dll: 3.4.22.19868 78 sim1.dll: 3.4.22.19868 78 visualfx.dll: 3.4.22.19868 78 weather.dll: 3.4.22.19868 78 window.dll: 3.4.22.19868 78 ---------------------------------- 78 Trying C:\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 94 Found it: trying to connect 125 FS UNC path = "\\WIN10\Prepar3DV3\" 875 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan ----------------------- 906 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1031 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 1031 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1031 ------ Setting the hooks and direct calls into the simulator ------ 1031 --- CONTROLS timer memory location obtained ok 1031 --- SIM1 Frictions access gained 1031 --- FS Controls Table located ok 1031 --- Installed Mouse Macro hooks ok. 1031 --- Wind smoothing fix is installed 1031 --- SimConnect intercept for texts and menus option is off 1031 --- All links okay (except older global weather setting method) 1031 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1031 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 1031 Trying to use SimConnect Prepar3D 1031 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 8515 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v3", Version: 3.4.22.19868 (SimConnect: 3.4.0.0) 8515 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 8515 FSUIPC Menu entry added 8609 \\WIN10\Users\PANOS\AppData\Local\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Prepar3D_Default.fxml 8609 \\WIN10\Prepar3DV3\SimObjects\Airplanes\IRIS Raptor Driver\Raptor.air 95203 \\WIN10\Prepar3DV3\SimObjects\Airplanes\FSLabs A320 CFM\A320.air 464562 Aircraft loaded: running normally now ... 464562 User Aircraft ID 4 supplied, now being used 468234 System time = 07/04/2017 13:05:04, Simulator time = 12:57:56 (11:57Z) 468609 Aircraft="FSLabs A320X CFM" 474172 Starting everything now ... 479844 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 574015 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 121 secs = 8.6 fps 574015 Max AI traffic was 0 aircraft 606250 LogOptions changed, now 00000000 00000005 607265 WRITE0[0] 7B91, 1 bytes: 01 . 1337140 WRITE repeated 9550 times 1337140 WRITE0[0] 7B91, 1 bytes: 00 . 1414640 WRITE repeated 983 times 1414640 WRITE0[0] 0BC8, 2 bytes: 00 00 .. 1414687 WRITE0[0] 7B91, 1 bytes: 00 . 2244640 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 1637 secs = 17.8 fps 2244640 Max AI traffic was 0 aircraft 5521578 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 2781 secs = 26.7 fps 5521578 Max AI traffic was 0 aircraft After landing my system an P3D crash with this error: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE HUNG http://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6312&t=123093 I know is a "Out of memory" and has nothing to do with FSUIPC, but the same time my client PC has a crash to! Thank you for your time! Panos
Pete Dowson Posted April 7, 2017 Report Posted April 7, 2017 50 minutes ago, bassgeo said: Here i am again! With a log which shows none of the errors we are trying to debug! So what did you stop ? Were there any WideFS client programs running? 51 minutes ago, bassgeo said: After landing my system an P3D crash with this error: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE HUNG http://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6312&t=123093 I know about that one, though I've never seen it. I don't think it is related to OOM. Pete
bassgeo Posted April 7, 2017 Author Report Posted April 7, 2017 No errors anymore! I just removed the "VAS_Monitor.lua" from WideFs client PC! Thank you for everything! P.S. Was that some kind of magic?! ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.964f (13th March 2017) by Pete Dowson ********* Windows 10 Enterprise 64 Bit reported as Build 14393, Release ID: 1607 (OS 10.0) Prepar3D.exe version = 3.4.22.19868 Reading options from "C:\Prepar3D v3\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" Running inside Prepar3D v3 on Windows 10 Module base=57330000 User Name="" User Addr="" FSUIPC4 Key is provided WideFS7 Key is provided 47 System time = 07/04/2017 16:14:48 78 FLT UNC path = "\\WIN10\P3D_PLN\" 78 ------ Module Version Check ------ 78 acontain.dll: 3.4.22.19868 78 api.dll: 3.4.22.19868 78 controls.dll: 3.4.22.19868 78 fs-traffic.dll: 3.4.22.19868 94 G3D.dll: 3.4.22.19868 94 language.dll: 3.4.22.19868 94 sim1.dll: 3.4.22.19868 94 visualfx.dll: 3.4.22.19868 94 weather.dll: 3.4.22.19868 94 window.dll: 3.4.22.19868 94 ---------------------------------- 94 Trying C:\Prepar3D v3\Modules\SimConnectP3D3.dll 110 Found it: trying to connect 141 FS UNC path = "\\WIN10\Prepar3DV3\" 828 ---------------------- Joystick Device Scan ----------------------- 828 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 860 LogOptions=00000000 00000005 860 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 860 ------ Setting the hooks and direct calls into the simulator ------ 860 --- CONTROLS timer memory location obtained ok 875 --- SIM1 Frictions access gained 875 --- FS Controls Table located ok 875 --- Installed Mouse Macro hooks ok. 875 --- Wind smoothing fix is installed 875 --- SimConnect intercept for texts and menus option is off 875 --- All links okay (except older global weather setting method) 875 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 875 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 875 Trying to use SimConnect Prepar3D 875 Opened separate AI Traffic client okay 19188 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v3", Version: 3.4.22.19868 (SimConnect: 3.4.0.0) 19188 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 19188 FSUIPC Menu entry added 19313 \\WIN10\Users\user\AppData\Local\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Prepar3D_Default.fxml 19313 \\WIN10\Prepar3DV3\SimObjects\Airplanes\IRIS Raptor Driver\Raptor.air 131906 WRITE0[0] 330A, 2 bytes: 6F 64 od 131922 WRITE0[0] 330A, 2 bytes: 6C 62 lb 133985 \\WIN10\Prepar3DV3\SimObjects\Airplanes\FSLabs A320 CFM\A320.air 136500 WRITE0[0] 0BC8, 2 bytes: 00 00 .. 488328 Aircraft loaded: running normally now ... 488328 User Aircraft ID 4 supplied, now being used 489235 WRITE0[0] 0BC8, 2 bytes: FF 7F .. 497672 System time = 07/04/2017 16:23:06, Simulator time = 13:15:43 (12:15Z) 497766 Aircraft="FSLabs A320-X OLYMPIC AIR A320X CFM" 498953 Starting everything now ... 503563 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 503860 WRITE0[0] 7B91, 1 bytes: 01 . 1067906 WRITE repeated 5754 times 1067906 WRITE0[0] 7B91, 1 bytes: 00 . 1423516 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 947 secs = 11.7 fps 1423516 Max AI traffic was 0 aircraft 1559313 WRITE repeated 6397 times 1559313 WRITE0[0] 0BC8, 2 bytes: 00 00 .. 1559375 WRITE0[0] 7B91, 1 bytes: 00 . 5855141 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 4420 secs = 26.9 fps 5855141 Max AI traffic was 0 aircraft 6604531 WRITE repeated 88224 times 6604531 WRITE0[0] 0BC8, 2 bytes: FF 7F .. 6604610 WRITE0[0] 7B91, 1 bytes: 00 . 6639125 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 774 secs = 23.0 fps 6639125 Max AI traffic was 0 aircraft 6681094 === DLLStop called ... 6681094 === Closing external processes we started ... 6682110 === About to kill any Lua plug-ins still running ... 6682250 === Closing global Lua thread 6683250 === About to kill my timers ... 6683453 === Restoring window procs ... 6683453 === Unloading libraries ... 6683453 === stopping other threads ... 6683453 === ... GPSout ... 6683578 === ... Memory checking ... 6683578 === ... Button scanning ... 6683688 === ... Axis scanning ... 6683781 === Releasing joystick devices ... 6683781 === Freeing macro memory 6683781 === Removing any offset overrides 6683781 === Closing all WideFS threads 6691750 === Clearing any displays left 6691750 === Calling SimConnect_Close ... 6692360 === SimConnect_Close done! 6692360 === AI slots deleted! 6692360 === Freeing button memory ... 6692360 === Closing my Windows ... 6692360 === Freeing FS libraries ... 6693360 === Closing devices ... 6693360 === Closing the Log ... Bye Bye! ... 6693360 System time = 07/04/2017 18:06:22, Simulator time = 14:22:17 (13:22Z) 6693360 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Minimum frame rate was 7.3 fps, Maximum was 29.9 fps Minimum available memory recorded was 604Mb Average frame rate for running time of 6140 secs = 24.1 fps Maximum AI traffic for session was 0 aircraft Memory managed: 1454 Allocs, 1427 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed ***********
Pete Dowson Posted April 7, 2017 Report Posted April 7, 2017 55 minutes ago, bassgeo said: No errors anymore! I just removed the "VAS_Monitor.lua" from WideFs client PC! Thank you for everything! P.S. Was that some kind of magic?! No. That was the only thing that I provide which makes WideClient write to those offsets. It should work, I don't know what's changed, but now we've isolated it I will find out and fix it. Thanks for confirming. Pete
Pete Dowson Posted April 7, 2017 Report Posted April 7, 2017 With your help I've now found and fixed this bug. Really it was an unlikely situation, which is why it hasn't been found before. Running a Lua plugin on a Client to display information from the server ON the server is obviously a little illogical. The non-WideFS VAS display plug-in is best run on the Server. However, that's the reason why the bug hasn't been found before -- and it may well have affected a more logical application. So, thank you! The fix will be included in the next FSUIPC update. Pete
bassgeo Posted April 8, 2017 Author Report Posted April 8, 2017 Hello Pete! Something new?! Using OpusFSI weather engine. FSUIPC4.log WideServer.log VAS_Monitor WideFS.log WideClient-w10.log I can't use copy & paste! I uploaded the log files in my DropBox. Panos
Pete Dowson Posted April 8, 2017 Report Posted April 8, 2017 33 minutes ago, bassgeo said: Something new?! Using OpusFSI weather engine. This is a useless report! What's the problem? The log just shows you still have IPC write logging on. Why? It'll make big logs and be no use to anyone without purpose! There's a lot of files there. I simply don't know what you want me to do. I'm not going to peer through them trying to guess! Pete
bassgeo Posted April 8, 2017 Author Report Posted April 8, 2017 I just report something that I never see before..no problem! I'm sorry make you upset! Panos
Pete Dowson Posted April 8, 2017 Report Posted April 8, 2017 52 minutes ago, bassgeo said: I just report something that I never see before..no problem! But you don't say what you haven't seen before! 52 minutes ago, bassgeo said: I'm sorry make you upset! Not upset at all, don't worry. I just wondered what it was about. I still am! ;-) Pete
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